[00:00:02] >> GOOD AFTERNOON. WE ARE HERE AT THE WORK SESSION FOR [Board Work Session on October 7, 2024. ] THE SIOUX CITY COMMUNITY SCHOOL DISTRICT REGARDING THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH. WE'RE HERE AT THE EDUCATIONAL SERVICE CENTER, IT IS 4:30 ON OCTOBER 7, 2024. SHANICE, COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A ROLL? >> MR. MK. >> PRESENT. >> MR. GEORGE. >> PRESENT. >> MR. GREENWELL. >> HERE. >> MS. LEE. >> PRESENT. >> MR. MYERS. >> HERE. >> MR. MICHAELSON. >> HERE. >> MR. MILLER. >> HERE. >> DR. LOUIE AND DR. CHRISTIE. THAT'S ALL [INAUDIBLE] YOU. >> DO YOU HAVE A PACKET OF INFORMATION THAT WILL GIVE US A STRUCTURE FOR GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS? WE HAVE A LOT TO DECIDE IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT WE'LL TAKE AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO GET DONE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SELECTING US TO CONDUCT THIS SEARCH. WE'RE PLEASED TO BE IN YOUR TRUST THAT YOU ARE ALLOWING US TO ASSIST YOU WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY BETWEEN LANE AND I, WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONDUCT ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH BOARD MEMBER, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR INPUT. IT WAS VERY HELPFUL. I THINK IT PROVIDED US A LOT OF INFORMATION, SERVING A PLATFORM FOR BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, AND PERHAPS WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER A LITTLE BIT BETTER TOO AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IT'S OKAY YOU'RE A CYCLON FAN. [LAUGHTER] >> I HAD TO WAIT UNTIL I GOT BACK FROM THAT GAME. >> [LAUGHTER] THE GAME. WHY NOT. >> WHICH TURNED OUT. >> THEY DID. [LAUGHTER] I'M A FAN OF ANY TEAM THAT HAS IOWA IN IT. >> THERE YOU GO. >> I HAVE TO BE HOUSTON FAN AS WELL. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE TOO. >> BUT YOU HAVE [INAUDIBLE] >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR SPEECH FROM THE MATERIAL YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WHAT WE HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH. THE VERY FIRST THING WE NEED TO ADDRESS IS THE TIMELINE. IF YOU WOULD TURN TO THAT PARTICULAR TIMELINE YOU PROVIDED, THE NOTED IN YELLOW, OUR MEETINGS WHERE LANE AND I MEET WITH THE BOARD. I DID NOT TAKE TIME, I JUST OUTLINED A TIMELINE THAT FITS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR OR LAST TWO YEARS AGO DURING THE LAST SEARCH. THERE'S A COUPLE OF PLACES WHERE I HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. ONE IS WHEN I SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, CONSTITUENT STAFF MEETINGS ON THE 15TH AND 18TH, THAT'S LIKE WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY. I KNOW BETTER ON FRIDAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT PARTICULAR MEETING ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, BUT I COULDN'T FIND ANOTHER NIGHT YET. I JUST HAD TO PUT A PLAY FOLDER AS MUCH AS ANYTHING. THE FIRST THING IS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ON OCTOBER 29, IF THAT'S THE DATE YOU CHOOSE, ON THE 27TH OF JANUARY, OF FEBRUARY, YOU CAN SEE IT GOING ON DOWN THE LIST, THAT YOU'RE AVAILABLE AND IT'S NOT CROSSING OVER ANYTHING ELSE. HAS EVERYONE HAVE A SENSE FOR HOW THOSE DATES LINE UP WITH EACH ONE OF YOU AND YOUR AVAILABILITY? >> OCTOBER 29, IS ON TUESDAY. >> THAT'S WHAT I HAVE HERE. >> DID WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING ON THE 28TH? >> ON JANUARY 27. >> WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? >> 29TH, SIR. >> HERE'S MY QUESTION. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO WORK SESSION OR FINANCIAL SUPERINTENDENT ON MONDAY THE 28TH VERSUS A BOARD MEETING ON THE 28TH OF OCTOBER? >> YEAH. WE'VE DONE IT AHEAD OF A MEETING OF [INAUDIBLE] BEFORE. >> BUT WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO TRY TO COMBINE THOSE, LIKE ONE BEFORE? >> I WOULD JUST [INAUDIBLE]. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. >> THE 28TH? >> HOW LONG OF THOSE DO THEY HAVE, LIKE A NORMAL LANE? THE FINALIZING THE SUPERINTENDENT PROFILE. >> TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR AND A HALF. SOME HAVE DONE IT IN 10 MINUTES. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT IN 10 MINUTES. >> I CAN DO IT ON EITHER [INAUDIBLE]. IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET IT ALL DONE AT THE SAME TIME. >> IT'S UP TO YOU. [00:05:01] >> WE HAVE ONE BOARD MEMBER WITH A CONFLICT. >> BUSINESS MUST GO ON. >> ANYONE OPPOSED TO THE 28TH? OCTOBER 28? I HAVE A SESSION BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING. >> WILL THIS BE A CLOSED SESSION OR WILL IT BE AN OPEN SESSION? >> CAN BE AN OPEN. >> IT SHOULD BE OPEN. >> THAT'S DISCUSSING ANYBODY, ANY CANDIDATES OR ISSUES SUCH AS THAT. >> OR SESSION. >> IT'S SIMPLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THAT PARTICULAR DATE IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED AND DETERMINING, WHAT ARE THE PROFILE? WHAT ARE THE QUALITY QUALIFICATIONS YOU'RE SEEKING IN THE NEXT SUPERINTENDENT? THAT'S PRIMARY. YOU CAN GET A LOT OF DATA THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM IN THE END. YOU CAN GO WITH IT AS IT LINES UP AND IT LITERALLY LINES UP. HERE ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE LISTED, AND YOU SAW THAT IN THE SURVEY. SURVEY HAD 27 ITEMS LISTED. IT'LL BREAK IT DOWN 1-27. YOU CAN ADOPT IT. YOU CAN SAY NO, I WANT TO REPLACE IT. JUST WANT TO COMBINE THESE TWO OR COLLECTIVELY AS A BOARD, WE WANT TO ADD ONE OR TWO. GENERALLY, WE SAY THERE ARE 8-10 ITEMS THAT IF YOU LIST IN THE PROFILE. LAST TIME ROUND INTENDED TO BE THE PERSON THE SUPERINTENDENT NEEDS TO BE AS OPPOSED TO SKILL. I JUST LOOKED AT AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A MOMENT. >> WELL, AS I SAID, WE HAD A DIFFERENT IDEA OF WHAT THE SEARCH WOULD BE. >> YOU'RE PROPOSING WORK SESSION AT 4:00 OR 5:00? >> HOW LONG WOULD YOU NEED? >> WELL, HE SAID 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR AND A HALF, SO YOU WOULD NEED TO PLAN FOR 4:00 SO TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME. >> BUT IF IT'S JUST A WORK SESSION, WE CAN'T MAKE A FINAL DECISION AT WORK SESSION. >> BUT YOU WILL DECIDE. THIS IS THE TIMELINE WE WANT TO [INAUDIBLE]. THESE ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS, THE PROFILE, CONSENSUS. >> TRUE. >> WE AGREE THAT, YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. BECAUSE THEN WE WILL RIGHT AWAY THE NEXT MORNING GET THIS ON THE WEBSITES. >> THE SURVEY DEADLINE IS THE 23RD AT 10:00 A.M, WHICH I THINK IS WEDNESDAY. DOES THAT MEAN YOU'LL SEND IT TO US TO REVIEW ON FRIDAY THE 25TH? >> WE'LL TRY TO GET IT TO YOU AHEAD OF TIME. WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO COME BACK FROM K12 INSIDE. WE'LL HAVE IT NO LATER THAN THE WEEKEND. THAT'S WHY WE SET THE 29TH IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO TURN IT AROUND, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. WE CAN GET IT BACK. IF YOU WANT IT AHEAD OF TIME, THEN WE'LL WORK THE K12 INSIDE AS BEST WE CAN TO GET THAT TURNED AROUND, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING I NEED TO SEND TO THE BOARD SECRETARY ON A WEEKEND. >> THEY DO A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF THAT. >> IT'S A VERY COMPLEX REPORT, YOU RECALL. WE'LL REVIEW THE ACTUAL SURVEY IN A MOMENT LATER DOWN THE LIST SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DATA THAT WE'RE COLLECTING, NOT ONLY COLLECTING DATA ON WHAT I MEAN THE PROFILE, BUT IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A REPORT IN TERMS OF HOW THE DISTRICT IS DOING, PARTICULARLY FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER INVOLVEMENT STANDPOINT. >> THEY'LL GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION. >> THERE'S AN OPEN-ENDED SECTION IN THERE THAT SAYS, YOU CAN TELL US WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TELL US, AND THAT CAN BE VERY REVEALING. I THINK IT WAS LAST TIME IN TERMS OF GIVING YOU A BIT OF STATUS OF HOW THE DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY DOING. IN FACT, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT FOR ME, THE QUESTIONS WILL HAVE A COMPARISON TO TWO YEARS AGO FOR YOU. >> FOR US TO GET THE INFORMATION BEFORE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SEND IT TO SHANICE OVER THE WEEKEND, CORRECT? >> I'M HOPING WE GET IT DONE ON FRIDAY. BUT I'M A LITTLE DEPENDENT ON K12 INSIGHT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR WORK SCHEDULE IS. >> WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE, SHANICE, IF THEY GET THE RESULTS OF THE K12 INSIDE DEAL THAT YOU'D HAVE THE ABILITY TO FORWARD IT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS OVER THE WEEKEND? >> YEAH. I CAN FORWARD IT ON THE WEEKEND. >> WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE SCHOOL EMAIL ACCOUNT OR TO EVERYONE WE WANT? >> IT WOULD BE TO YOUR SCHOOL BOARD. >> SOME OF US HAVE [INAUDIBLE] WHAT YOU SEE IN BETWEEN, [00:10:01] AND WE'LL COME BACK TO SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND DISCUSS FURTHER, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF ORDER. WE ALREADY HAVE A SURVEY LINK, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU WANT A MEETING WITH CONSTITUENT GROUP TO DETERMINE WHAT CONSTITUENT GROUPS YOU WANT US TO MEET WITH, WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT YOU DID LAST TIME, YOU'RE NOT BOUND BY THAT. YOU GOT A DIFFERENT MAKEUP HERE AND YOU HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WITH THE PREVIOUS SEARCH FROM TWO YEARS AGO. YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE START ACCEPTING CANDIDATE APPLICATIONS ONGOING AFTER THE 28TH ON JANUARY 6, THE DEADLINE FOR APPLICATIONS, WE MAKE THAT AFTER THE WINTER BREAK BECAUSE CANDIDATES OFTEN ARE MORE INTERESTED IN VISITING WITH THEIR FAMILY AND TAKING SOME TIME AND COMPLETING AN APPLICATION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT BEFORE OR DURING THAT PARTICULAR BREAK. OTHERWISE, WE COULD HAVE CONDENSED IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT OUR [NOISE] THE DEADLINE WILL BE THE 6TH TO THE 7TH TO THE 20TH, WE'LL WORK THROUGH SCREENING AND REFERENCE CHECKING THE CANDIDATES. >> WE'LL PROBABLY START THAT AS WE GET APPLICATIONS IN AS WELL. >> IT'S ONGOING. AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO SAY, HERE'S THE WHOLE APPLICATION LIST. HOW DO THESE PEOPLE LINE UP? HOW DOES IT MATCH PROFILE? SO THAT YOU'RE IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE WHO YOU WISH TO BRING IN FOR A FIRST ROUND INTERVIEW. >> I THINK PRIOR TO THAT JANUARY 6 DATE YOU GAVE US, AND IF I RECALL, STARTING IN LATE DECEMBER, I HAVE EIGHT APPLICATIONS. YOU DIDN'T SAY WHO THEY WERE, YOU JUST SAID I HAD EIGHT APPLICATIONS, I HAD 12 APPLICATIONS, I HAD 20 APPLICATIONS. >> I WILL SEND A REPORT TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT. I CAN IN TURN SHARE IT WITH YOU. IT'S JUST GENERALLY, HERE'S HOW THINGS TEND TO GO. YOU HAVE TO KEEP ONE THING IN MIND. I'LL PREDICT A THIRD TO HALF APPLICATIONS, WILL COME INTO LAST WEEK, EVEN IF THEY MADE A DECISION TO APPLY A MONTH EARLIER. THAT'S JUST HOW IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN. PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS AFRAID THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXPOSED. IN MOST CASES, A GOOD CANDIDATE WHO'S DOING WELL IN THE CURRENT POSITION CANNOT AFFORD TO BE IN A POSITION TO APPLYING FOR ANOTHER JOB VERY OFTEN. PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A JOB OR NEED A JOB, NO PROBLEM. >> WE DID DECIDE THE 28TH IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. >> MY 28TH? >> I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR PREFERENCES. I'LL LOOK AT THE MATERIAL EARLY ON THE WEEKEND. >> TAKE IN LANE JUST ONE NOTE ABOUT THAT TIMELINE AND WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE WERE PLANNING ON PROMOTING THE SUPERINTENDENT SURVEY AND OUR DISTRICT CLIMATE SURVEY AT THEIR TEACHER CONFERENCES, AND THOSE ARE ON OCTOBER 22, AND OCTOBER 24. IF IT CLOSES ON THE 23RD AT 10:00 A.M, THAT'S FINE. WE'LL JUST PROMOTE IT ON THE 22ND AND LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO NOTE, I GUESS, FOR PARTICIPATION, THAT IT MAY BE GOOD TO PROMOTE IT ON BOTH DAYS OF THE CONFERENCES. >> DO WE SEND THAT OUT OR CALL THE PARENTS TOO OR WHOEVER PRIOR TO? >> WE DID LAST TIME. WE WENT ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE SENT A PRESS RELEASE TO THE MEDIA, WAS REALLY GOOD PARTNERING WITH US TO PROMOTE THAT. [NOISE] BUT THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE HAVE CONFERENCES AND WE HAVE THOSE TWO SURVEYS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OVERLAPPING AND THAT WE COULD PROMOTE BOTH OF THOSE DURING CONFERENCES. >> WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING? >> I GUESS THAT I'M SUGGESTING THAT IF WE COULD [OVERLAPPING] OF K12 IS WILLING TO TURN AROUND OR IF THEY CAN TURN AROUND THE RESULTS QUICKLY ENOUGH. IF WE COULD LEAVE THAT OPEN THROUGH THE 24TH? JUST SO WE GIVE PARENTS AN EXTRA DAY TO TAKE THAT. >> WELL, THEN I APPRECIATE IT. I CAN GO EITHER WAY. I'LL DEFER TO OTHER PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES, BUT DO WE THEN NEED THE TUESDAY SO THAT IT HAPPENS TO COME IN MONDAY MORNING, WE DON'T HAVE SHANICE WONDERING IF WE GET JURY SOON ENOUGH TO REVIEW? MAYBE THAT IS THE WISDOM OF THE TUESDAY 29TH, EVEN THOUGH I APPRECIATE THAT OCCUPIES TUESDAY. DAY FRAMES. >> 29TH? >> IF WE'RE GOING TO DELAY IT, WE CAN PROBABLY DO ANOTHER DAY. >> I THINK I'D LIKE THE IDEA OF US BRINGING ATTENTION TO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT FROM PARENTS AT PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCE. THE MORE THAT WE CAN REFER BACK TO THE FACT OF HOW MANY AVENUES WE OPENED FOR INPUT EARLY ON, I THINK THAT WILL BENEFIT US FROM THE LONG RUN IN TERMS OF [INAUDIBLE] [00:15:02] >> I THINK THE LAST TIME RESPONSE SURVEY WAS WHAT? ONE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED, SOMEWHERE IN THERE. >> IT WAS A GOOD TERM. DO YOU AGREE IT WAS A GOOD TERM? >> IT WAS A REALLY GOOD TERM. WORK SESSION, OCTOBER 29, TUESDAY. >> DO WE WANT TO GO KEEP IT AT 4:00 OR DO WE WANT TO GO 5:00? >> 5:00. WORK SESSION AT 5:00, THAT WORK BETTER FOR EVERYONE'S WORK SCHEDULE? >> IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION THEN WE NEED TO HAVE A REGULAR BOARD MEETING AFTER THE WORK SESSIONS TO MAKE A DECISION. CAN MAKE DECISIONS. THIS IS THE FINAL LIST. I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION [INAUDIBLE] YOU CAN SHOW FAVOR AND I APPRECIATE. >> WE WOULD NEED TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL SESSION THERE? >> YEAH. A SPECIAL SESSION, A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING. >> SPECIAL. >> IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW? >> YEAH. OR AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING. WE'LL MAKE A DECISION AT THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING. >> WE COULD HAVE A BOARD MEETING GO OVER THIS? >> A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING. >> A SPECIAL MEETING TO GO OVER THIS WITH [INAUDIBLE] WE DON'T NEED TO CALL IT A SPECIAL SESSION. >> NO. A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING. >> I LIKE SPECIAL BECAUSE IT KEEPS IT ON THE TOPIC. >> THAT'S EXACTLY. >> [OVERLAPPING] THE AGENDA ITEM. >> ONE AGENDA ITEM. >> ONE AGENDA ITEM. THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING. >> AT FIVE O'CLOCK. >> ON THE 29TH. >> ON THE 29TH. [INAUDIBLE] LAS VEGAS. >> I'M LOOKING IN JANUARY, 27. THAT'S WHEN WE MEET AND THAT'S WHEN WE'RE IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS CANDIDATES TO BE INTERVIEWED. AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME DAY, AND SO YOU'LL DECIDE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, WHO DO YOU WISH TO BRING IN FOR FIRST ROUND INTERVIEW. NOW, GENERALLY, THOSE ARE DONE ZOOM. >> ZOOM VIDEO. >> VIDEO. >> WAS THAT DURING THE DAY LAST TIME, OR WAS THAT AT NIGHT THAT WE DID THIS? >> TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VIDEOS FIRST. >> YEAH. >> I'M MAKING A NUMBER UP, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LIST OF 20 CANDIDATES. FROM THOSE 20 CANDIDATES, YOU'RE GOING TO WHITTLE IT DOWN TO 12 THAT YOU THINK ARE MOST QUALIFIED. FROM THOSE 12, YOU GIVE US A VIDEO OF EACH ONE OF THOSE 12, FIVE MINUTE HARD CUT OFF. FROM THOSE VIDEOS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW THESE AND MAKE IT A NUMBER OF SIX. >> THAT WOULD BE ON THE FIFTH AND SIXTH THEN YOU WOULD DO THOSE INTERVIEWS. MY APOLOGY. WHAT WE ALSO DO WILL DETERMINE WHO'S GOING TO BE FIRST ROUND INTERVIEWS ON THE 27TH. THAT TAKES SOME TIME BECAUSE ON THE SAME DAY WE'LL MEET WITH WHOEVER YOU ESTABLISH AS INTERVIEW GROUPS OR TEAMS THAT WILL MEET WITH THE CANDIDATES TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO YOU. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT IN MORE DETAIL. I WANT TO FINISH THE TIMELINE FIRST. THEN NUMBER 12 IS WHEN YOU DO SECOND ROUND INTERVIEWS WHERE YOU'RE DOWN TO FINALISTS, WHETHER IT'S 1, 2, 3. NORMALLY IT'S GOING TO BE TWO OR THREE. THAT'S WHEN YOU'D BRING IN YOUR GROUPS YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. REMEMBER, WE PROVIDE FEEDBACK FORMS THAT YOU GET TO READ BEFORE YOU MAKE A FINAL DECISION. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PILE OF THEM. WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HAVE A DAY IN BETWEEN. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TWO DAYS LISTED THERE, SO WE HAVE AMPLE TIME TO REVIEW THAT PARTICULAR INPUT BEFORE WE MEET WITH YOU. I'VE SCHEDULED TWO DAYS FOR FIRST ROUND INTERVIEWS JUST IN CASE. IF IT CAN BE DONE IN ONE DAY, THAT'S FINE. BUT TWO DAYS ALLOWS YOU TO DO THEM LATE AFTERNOON, EVENING, IF IT INTERFERES WITH YOUR WORK SCHEDULE. IF YOU'RE ALL AVAILABLE DURING THE DAY, YOU CAN ROLL IT THROUGH ALL IN ONE DAY. >> IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THEIR AVAILABILITY. >> YES. KEEPING TWO DAYS OPEN HELPS IN CASE THEY HAVE A BOARD MEETING IN THEIR HOME DISTRICT. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY I CAN'T MAKE THE BOARDROOM WHERE I'M EMPLOYED BECAUSE I GOT TO GO INTERVIEW SOMEBODY ELSE. >> TWO DAYS ARE GOOD. >> WE'LL MEET WITH YOU AFTER YOU'VE MET WITH THEM, AND AFTER YOU'VE INTERVIEWED THEM, [00:20:01] AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PROCESS WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT'LL NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO, MAYBE THREE, FINALISTS. WHEN WE HAVE TWO FINALISTS IS WHEN WE TENDED TO HAVE THE MOST INTEREST IN PEOPLE WANTING TO PARTICIPATE, PROVIDE FEEDBACK. >> WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS TIMELINE? IN FEBRUARY 5TH AND 6TH WE HAVE THIS FIRST ROUND OF CANDIDATES, AND WE DON'T LIKE ANY OF THEM? >> THEN WE RECALIBRATE. >> THEN WE'LL MOVE THIS TIMELINE. >> IF WE GET THIS FAR, I THINK WE'D BE LOOKING AT AN INTERIM. >> WE MAY RESTART THE PROCESS. >> IF WE GET TO JANUARY AND WE DON'T LIKE ANY OF THE CANDIDATES THAT WE HAVE. >> TRY LISTENING. DON'T LIKE ANY OF THE FIRST ROUND CANDIDATES. WE MAY STILL HAVE SECOND ROUND CANDIDATES. >> YOU CAN BRING MORE IN. >> THANK YOU. >> WE'LL ALSO BRING WITH THAT 10-12 VIDEOS. WE'LL BRING ALL THE CANDIDATES' MATERIALS AS WELL. >> DID WE LOOK AT ALL THE VIDEOS OF ALL THE APPLICANTS? WE DID NOT. >> NO. NOBODY LOOKED THAT. >> YOU NARROWED IT DOWN TO THE TOP 10. >> THE ONES THAT BEST FIT THE PROFILE. IT COULD BE SIX, IT COULD BE FIVE, IT COULD BE EIGHT, IT COULD BE NINE, IT COULD BE 10 [INAUDIBLE]. >> I THINK WE HAD NINE VIDEOS OR SO LAST NIGHT. >> WE HAVE VIDEOS ON 11, YOU'RE LOOKING AT NINE. >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAD NINE, BUT WE SAW EIGHT. SOMEBODY WITHDREW. >> YES. COMFORTABLE SO FAR? >> YEAH. >> I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE PART OF THE NINE OR 12, ARE THEY IN THE POCKET OF PERSPECTIVES TO LOOK AT THIS GO AROUND? >> WE HAVEN'T STARTED. NOT UNTIL THE PROFILE [OVERLAPPING] >> [INAUDIBLE] ESTABLISH THE PROFILE. BECAUSE THE PROFILE, TO YOUR POINT, DAN, IS DIFFERENT THIS PROFILE WILL BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] >> IF YOU LOOK AT IT [INAUDIBLE] >> NOT VERY OFTEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY COMING BACK. HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU APPLY FOR A JOB AND NOT BE SELECTED, AND THEN GO BACK AND EXPLAIN THAT TO YOUR COMMUNITY? >> IT'LL DEPEND ON THE CANDIDATE. SOME WILL, IF THEY KNOW WE'RE MAKING REFERENCE CALLS, BE VERY CAREFUL. MANY TIMES THE REFERENCE CALLS COULD BE FROM A PREVIOUS JOB, OR SOMEONE THEY HAVE A SPECIAL TRUST IN. I CAN SPEAK, DICK DIDN'T CHANGE JOBS. I CHANGED JOBS, AND I ALWAYS WENT TO THE PRESIDENT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT I'M IN THE RUNNING FOR A JOB. I FELT THAT WAS BETTER THAN NOT FINDING FROM SOMEONE ELSE. >> THANK YOU [INAUDIBLE]. >> AT THE SAME TIME WE WORK WITH THE INTERVIEW GROUP, WHOEVER THEY MAY HAPPEN TO BE, TO DEVELOP THEIR QUESTIONS SO THAT EACH OF THE TWO CANDIDATES ARE GETTING THE SAME INTERVIEW. WE'RE VERY CAREFUL TO RECOMMEND THAT EVERY CANDIDATE GETS THE SAME GENERAL INTERVIEW RATHER THAN TWO DIFFERENT INTERVIEWS. >> WE DID THOSE TRAINING SESSIONS HERE AT THIS BUILDING. WE CAN DO THEM CONCURRENTLY. DICK AND I WILL SPLIT THEM. >> THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE IN A POSITION AFTER THE INTERVIEW FINALISTS THEY COME TO THE COMMUNITY AND BRING THEIR PARTNER, SPOUSE, COLLEAGUE, WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE, AND THEY'RE UP TO SPEED IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION IMMEDIATELY WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THE POSITION. WE'RE ASKING THEM ALL ALONG, ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED IN THIS? ARE YOU A SERIOUS CANDIDATE? ARE WE OKAY WITH IT? IN TERMS OF THE JANUARY AND FEBRUARY DATES, WORK FOR YOU AS WELL? >> YES. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS AT THIS POINT. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HAVE TO STICK TO TO GET THERE. >> YES. ONCE WE SET A TIMELINE, WE'LL LIVE UP TO IT. I'LL COME BACK TO ONE THING. IF FOR SOME REASON WE DON'T PRESENT A CANDIDATE WHO BECOMES A FINALIST [INAUDIBLE], PERHAPS AN INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT MIGHT BE AN OPTION YOU WOULD CONSIDER, BECAUSE OF TIMING. YOU WANT TO START CONDUCTING A SEARCH IN MARCH AS OPPOSED TO OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. YOU HAVE A SMALLER CANDIDATE LIST. >> IS THE 12TH OR THE 14TH OF FEBRUARY SET IN STONE? [00:25:02] >> NO. >> I'M IN NEW YORK UNTIL THE 12TH. >> THE 12TH IS A WEDNESDAY. >> THE 14TH IS A FRIDAY. >> YOU CAN EVEN GO TO SATURDAY IF YOU WISH. >> THERE WILL BE NO VALENTINE'S DAY THIS YEAR. [INAUDIBLE] GO TO YOUR FUNERAL ON SATURDAY [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] >> ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED IT TO BEGIN BETWEEN THE 12TH AND THE 14TH IS YOU HAVE A PILE OF FEEDBACK FORMS TO READ FROM THE PEOPLE THAT SIT ON THE INTERVIEWING GROUP. EACH INDIVIDUAL WILL MAKE A FORM. >> THE 14TH WAS A FRIDAY ANYWAY, RIGHT? >> YES. >> YES. VALENTINE'S DAY. >> YOU COULD GO 13TH, 15TH. YOU SAID YOU'RE BACK ON? >> I WAS COMING BACK SOME TIME ON THE 12TH. I HAVE A FLIGHT [INAUDIBLE]. >> YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK. >> I CAN MAYBE MAKE IT BACK BUT IT'S FEBRUARY, AND IT'S NEW YORK TO IOWA. I MAY OR MAY NOT MAKE MY FLIGHT. THEN ONLY ONE EVENING FOR THOSE OF US THAT STILL WORK DURING THE DAY, TO REVIEW ALL OF THOSE INTERVIEW FORMS DOESN'T SEEM REALISTIC TO ME BUT I [INAUDIBLE] >> THAT'S FINE. >> [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE GET ON THE 12TH, RIGHT? >> WHAT HAPPENS IF THE [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK? WE CAN DO ON TUESDAY, THURSDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND FRIDAY. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS FOR YOU GUYS. >> THE WEEK OF THE 17. >> I'M GOOD. START WITH THE HOLIDAY [INAUDIBLE] >> NO HOLIDAYS I GUESS [INAUDIBLE] BUT WHAT IF IT MOVES TO THE 12TH TO THE 13TH, JUST OFF THAT ONE DAY, AND THEN WE COME BACK ON MONDAY THE 17TH, OR TUESDAY THE 18TH WHATEVER SO WE HAVE THE WEEKEND TO GO THROUGH THE STACK. IT'S NOT THAT WE WANT TO SPEND OUR WEEKEND GOING THROUGH A STACK OF [INAUDIBLE] >> THEY'RE INTERESTING. [LAUGHTER]. >> I'M SURE THEY'LL BE GREAT. >> THEY'RE INTERESTING. THE ONLY THING YOU'LL BE MAYBE CAUTIOUS ABOUT IS BEING APPROACHED BY SOMEONE WHO HAS THEIR FAVORITE CANDIDATE AS WELL. >> THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. [LAUGHTER] >> I WOULDN'T PUT TOO MUCH TIME BETWEEN YOUR FINAL INTERVIEW. IT ALSO CREATES A LITTLE ANXIETY WITH THE FINALISTS. THEY'LL HAVE THE TIMELINE BEFORE [INAUDIBLE] >> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TALK YOU IN OR OUT A PARTICULAR DATE. WE SIMPLY WANT YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER IN ORDER TO PRESENT [INAUDIBLE] >> MUCH TIME PASSED BECAUSE I REMEMBER LAST TIME THE HEAVY LOBBYING FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE. ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA THREADS WERE ALL LIT UP AFTER [INAUDIBLE] >> LET ME ASK BECAUSE NOW THAT I LOOK AT IT, REALIZING THAT THE MONDAY FOLLOWING VALENTINE'S DAY IS A PART OF A THREE-DAY HOLIDAY, [NOISE] I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO DO BOTH SIDES OF THAT. I WOULD PREFER TO BE DOING IT THE FOLLOWING WEEK AFTER, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS TRAVELING BECAUSE THERE'S A CONVENIENT TWO-DAY HOLIDAY. >> LIKE TUESDAY THE 18TH AND THURSDAY THE 20TH? >> YEAH. LIKE THAT WEEK. THE WEEK OF THE 18TH AND 20TH. >> WOULD THAT SET US BACK IF WE GO THE NEXT WEEK? >> BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A DECISION BY MARCH 1ST, EARLY MARCH? YOU CAN STILL HAVE A DECISION BY MARCH IF YOU MOVE IT FOUR DAYS. >> I REMEMBER WHEN WE MADE THE DECISION LAST TIME. I THOUGHT IT WAS IN FEBRUARY. >> IT WAS IN JANUARY. >> IT WAS IN JANUARY. >> WHAT WAS THE MONTH BEHIND IT? BECAUSE SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES MAY HAVE OFFERS FROM OTHER DISTRICTS. >> AGAIN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT DATES ON THE PAPER. THEN WHY DON'T WE MOVE THE FIFTH AND SIXTH DATES UP BY A COUPLE OF DAYS. IS THAT POSSIBLE? >> LIKE THIRD AND FOURTH OF FEBRUARY OR IN JANUARY? >> THIRD AND FOURTH IS A MONDAY, TUESDAY. AFTER THE JANUARY 27TH DATE IS A MONDAY. WE'VE GOT THAT WHOLE WEEK. >> OUR 29TH, 30TH. >> COULD WE HAVE EVERYTHING DONE BY 29TH AND 30TH? [00:30:12] >> AS SOON AS WE GET AN OFFER [INAUDIBLE] MULTIPLE OFFERS. >> IT REALLY AFFECTS YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE SCREENING UP TILL 20TH OF JANUARY. >> WE'LL GET IT DONE. >> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE A PRODUCT. >> NO, WE'LL GET IT DONE. >> I DON'T DO A LOT OF [INAUDIBLE] IN JANUARY. >> A COUPLE OF OTHER ASSOCIATES WILL HELP US. >> YES. >> JANUARY 29TH AND 30TH. >> FOR THE INTERVIEW? FOR THE FIFTH AND SIXTH DATES? >> YEAH. >> MOVING THOSE FIFTH AND SIXTH DATES UP A WEEK, AND THEN YOU CAN MOVE THE 12TH AND 14TH TO THE FIFTH AND THE SEVENTH. >> WE WANT TO MOVE THE FIFTH AND SIXTH, AND THEN MEET WITH [INAUDIBLE] LAST INTERVIEW. CLOSE SESSION ON THE 30TH. >> THIRTIETH IS A THURSDAY. >> WE WERE TALKING 29TH, 30TH OF JANUARY. >> YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] >> WHERE'S THE END GOAL GOING TO BE? [INAUDIBLE] BASICALLY AT THE FINALS. WHAT'S THE DATE? >> HOW ABOUT THAT 12TH OR 14TH? >> WHO'S OKAY WITH THAT,13TH?. >> I'LL KNOW WHO MY CANDIDATE IS, AND I'LL TELL YOU ON THE PHONE. EVEN IF I'M ON THE PLANE I'LL TALK. >> THAT'S 5,6. WE COULD EVEN DECIDE THAT SEVEN. WE SHOULD KNOW BY THE SIXTH, THAT EVENING. >> YES, WE SHOULD KNOW. >> THEN WE COULD MAKE A DECISION MAYBE EVEN THAT EVENING. >> [INAUDIBLE] IT TAKES SOME TIME. >> IS THAT A THREE-HOUR DISCUSSION? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> THAT WAS A THREE-HOUR CLOSED SECTION. >> THAT WAS TIME CONSUMING. >> BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER. >> BASED OFF OF THAT, YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE 12TH IS IDEAL? >> NO, IT'S ON MY SCHEDULE. >> NO. I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE WE KEEP REFERENCING TO HOW WE DID THINGS PREVIOUS, THE TIME FRAME. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT TIME IS NOT OUR FRIEND HERE. >> RIGHT. THEN I'M TRYING TO BE CONSIDERATE OF THE TIME THAT WAS SPENT WITH THE MULTIPLE FACETS OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT PROCESS BECAUSE I'M REFERENCING OFF OF WHAT YOU GUYS PREVIOUSLY EXPERIENCED BASED OFF OF WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE THOSE DATES IDENTIFIED HERE ANYWAY. WE JUST MOVED THINGS UP A WEEK. WOULD THAT 12TH AND THE 14TH, THAT TIME PERIOD, BE A GOOD TIME FRAME AFTER THE FINALISTS' SECOND ROUND ON THE FIFTH AND SIXTH? >> AFTER? YEAH. >> MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. ONCE WE DO THE INTERVIEW WITH THE FINALISTS, THAT'S PUBLIC. WE DON'T WANT MUCH TIME TO PASS. THAT, AND GETTING OUR FOLLOW-UP POSITION. THEY OFFER [INAUDIBLE] WE WE WANT VERY LITTLE. [INAUDIBLE] TWO OF US WE'VE DONE YOUR INTERVIEWS, WE'VE MET THE PUBLIC. [INAUDIBLE] >> OKAY. >> CAN WE GO AND COME BACK THE NEXT DAY? >> YES. >> AFTER WE BROUGHT THEM IN. >> WHEN I SAID THE SEVENTH, THAT'S FRIDAY. THAT'S THE NEXT DAY. THAT DOESN'T WORK? THAT'S PRETTY QUICK. >> WHEN ARE YOU IN NEW YORK? >> I WILL LEAVE AFTER THAT MEETING ON THE SEVENTH. I HAVEN'T BOOKED MY FLIGHT YET. >> BUT YOU'RE IN NEW YORK THE WEEK OF 3, 4, 5, 6. >> NO. I'M IN NEW YORK THE WEEKEND, SO FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY. >> YOU'RE FLYING IN ON THE SIXTH? >> WHATEVER THE FRIDAY IS WHEN I WILL. >> FRIDAY IS THE SEVENTH. >> BUT I'LL WAIT LATER. I'LL TAKE THAT SATURDAY MORNING PLANE. [00:35:02] THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK. IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO DELAY MAIL OUT. [INAUDIBLE] >> I CAN DO 4:00 OR 5:00, BUT I DO WANT TO ASK THIS LITTLE QUESTION THAT CONFUSE THE SITUATION. I CAN SEE THAT ON THE CALENDAR, WE GET TO THE LAST EVENT ON THE SEARCH FOR [INAUDIBLE] ENDS ON THE 20TH, BUT THERE MUST BE SOME COMPILING OR SOMETHING THAT YOU DO BETWEEN THE 20TH AND THE 27TH ON THE CURRENT CALENDAR. >> ACTUALLY WHEN YOU'RE IN THE ROOM. >> YOU DO NEED BECAUSE THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE, WHY DON'T WE GO ON THE WEEK OF THE 20TH TOWARD THE END OF IT AND THAT? I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT TREYLA HAS SUGGESTED WHERE WE DO IT WHERE THEY'RE HERE ESSENTIALLY VISITING THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY AND WE DECIDE BY THE END OF THAT, I CAN ACCOMMODATE ANY OF THOSE SCHEDULES. IT'S JUST I AM SENSITIVE TO THE EARLY BIRD GETS THE WORM. >> CAN YOU HELP US MAYBE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL CONNECTING THE DOTS. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO THE PAPER SCREENING AND THE REFERENCE CHECK AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE DONE WITH THAT ON 20TH OF JANUARY. THEN WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THE 20TH JANUARY AND THE 27TH ON THIS SCHEDULE? >> GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE GOT TO WORK WITH THE CANDIDATES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL ENGAGED. >> BECAUSE THEN IN A CLOSED SESSION, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE CANDIDATES THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE STILL ENGAGED. YOU NEED THAT WEEK TO DO THAT. THEN IF WE MOVE FEBRUARY 5 AND 6, SO THEY'RE ALL ENGAGED, YOU NEED ENOUGH TIME TO GET THEM SCHEDULED. THE 29TH AND 30TH TO SCHEDULE THOSE INTERVIEWS. IS THAT DOABLE? >> YOU CAN LITERALLY TURN AROUND PRETTY FAST. ONCE YOU'VE MADE A DECISION, YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BACK A FINAL LIST THESE COUPLE OF DAYS IN BETWEEN WILL WORK. >> THEN AT THE END OF THE 30TH, YOU'RE GOING TO MEET WITH US IN ANOTHER CLOSED SESSION. >> JANUARY 30. >> JANUARY 30 INSTEAD OF THAT FEBRUARY 6 SINGLE DATE THERE. THEN INTERVIEWING THE FINALIST CANDIDATES IS THE NEXT THING THAT WE HAVE IN QUESTION. IF YOU GO FROM THE THE 30TH TO THE 3RD, IS THAT TOO MUCH TIME? WAS THAT YOU WERE HERE LAST TIME? >> WELL, INTERVIEWING, DOING VIDEO INTERVIEWS OF THOSE CANDIDATES TAKES TIME BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE RESPONDING. THEN AFTER THE INTERVIEWS IS WHEN YOU REALLY RANK THEM. THAT EVERYBODY LONG PRETTY THOROUGH DISCUSSIONS ABOUT EACH ONE OF THEM. SOMEBODY THOUGHT GOING INTO IT IS UP HERE AND COMING OUT OF IT, THEY'RE DOWN HERE AND ORDERS CHANGE. THAT'S A ROBUST PROCESS FROM WHAT I RECALL. >> I'M JUST USING THE DATES THAT THEY HAVE HERE. WHERE THEY HAVE FEBRUARY 5 AND FEBRUARY 6, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JANUARY 29 AND 30 AND THE 30TH. USING THEIR TIMELINE BUT MOVING IT ONE WEEK. THEN INTERVIEW FINALIST CANDIDATES, THOSE ARE HERE. YOU NEED TO GIVE THEM TIME TO FLY IN OR WHATEVER, DRIVE IN OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING. IF WE MEET ON THE 30TH, WHICH IS. >> THURSDAY. >> THURSDAY. >> THE CANDIDATES SPEND THE ENTIRE DAY AND NIGHT BEFORE THEY FLY IN, TAKE THEM OUT TO DINNER, THEIR SPOUSE SIGNIFICANT. THEN THEY GO TOUR THE DISTRICT. THEY GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS SO THEY DON'T CROSS PATHS. THEN WE BRING ONE OF THEM STARTS TOUR A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN THE OTHER. THEN WE BRING ONE CANDIDATE IN, WE GET TO TALK TO THE ONE CANDIDATE. THAT CANDIDATE THEN IS FINISHED THEN THE OTHER ONE HAS JUST FINISHED THE TOUR, AND THE LATE CANDIDATE COMES IN, AND WE TALK TO THEM AFTERWARDS. >> THEY'RE EACH MEETING WITH A NUMBER OF GROUPS. LAST TIME, YOU HAD FOUR GROUPS, I BELIEVE. >> THEN STILL STICKING WITH YOUR SCHEDULE, JUST MOVING UP WEEK THAT FEBRUARY 12 COULD BE FEBRUARY 6, WHICH IS A THURSDAY. WE CAN MEET THE 7TH, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE, IS THE 14TH. WE'VE JUST CONDENSED IT. >> THAT'S FINE. >> THE FEBRUARY 5 AND 6 DATE OR WHAT NOW? >> FEBRUARY 5 AND 6 OR JANUARY 29 AND 30. THE FEBRUARY 6 SINGLE IS JANUARY 30. FEBRUARY 12 HAS NOW BECOME FEBRUARY 6. THEN FEBRUARY 14 JUST BECAME FEBRUARY 7. >> WHAT'S THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS? [LAUGHTER] [00:40:03] >> WE'VE GOT A TELEVISION. >> IT WON'T INVOLVE IOWA OR NEBRASKA, SO IT REALLY WON'T MATTER. [LAUGHTER] OR MINNESOTA FOR YOU. >> WE GOOD? >> THE MORE SUPER BOWLS. >> THIS IS WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM IT. FEBRUARY 5 AND 6 BECOMES JANUARY 29 AND 30. FEBRUARY 6 BECOMES JANUARY 30, AND THEN FEBRUARY 12 BECOMES FEBRUARY 6 AND FEBRUARY 14 BECOMES FEBRUARY 7. >> THERE'S LOTS OF READING THAT WE'RE DOING THE NIGHT OF THE 6TH, IS WHAT I HEARD. >> YOU GO THROUGH. >> KEEP IN MIND. YOU'RE DONE WITH THIS, YOU'RE SICK OF THIS BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MANY MEETINGS, AND IT WAS EXHAUSTING BY THE END. >> WE GOOD? >> WE'RE GOOD. >> YOU'LL SEND OUT THE REVISED SCHEDULE? >> YES. >> THAT'S THE PDO. >> WE'VE DONE THE TIMELINE. NOW, LET'S COME BACK. LET'S NOW TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STAKEHOLDER SESSIONS AND MEETINGS. >> CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHO WE HAD LAST TIME? >> YES. >> WE HAD STUDENTS? WE HAD CERTIFIED AND THEN CLASSIFIED. >> SEPARATE GROUPS? >> CORRECT. WE WORKED WITH THE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE MEMBERS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE CERTIFIED GROUP, AND THEN WE ALSO WORK WITH THE HR DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY SOME THAT WERE NON-UNIT MEMBERS. >> I THOUGHT WE ALSO DID ADMINISTRATIVE. >> THERE WAS PETITION HERE. >> FOUR GROUP. NOW, WE ALSO HAD STUDENTS. >> WE SAID STUDENTS. >> THE STUDENTS CLASSIFIED AS REPRESENTATIVES. >> FOUR. >> STUDENTS CERTIFIED TEACHERS CLASSIFIED AND ADMIN. THEY PICKED REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE STUDENTS FROM THE CERTIFIED AND THE CLASSIFIED AND THE ADMIN. THEY PICKED REPRESENTATIVES, SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL 1,000 TEACHERS SHOWING UP. THE ASSOCIATION PICKED REPRESENTATIVES, SAME THING WITH THE CLASSIFIED AND THE STUDENTS DID THE SAME THING. PICK SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOLS HAD TO PICK REPRESENTATIVES AND THE ADMIN, I THINK SET A 50 SOME ADMIN. [INAUDIBLE] >> USUALLY THEY INTERVIEW GROUP SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10-12 IN THAT RANGE. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WAY EVERYBODY'S ASKING A QUESTION. WE ASSIGN QUESTION, SO EVERYBODY'S PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS. >> I THINK THEY'RE LISTENING. >> THERE WAS A SPLIT BETWEEN UNION AND [OVERLAPPING] >> THEY WANTED IT DONE IN A MANNER THAT REPRESENTED UNION MEMBERSHIP VERSUS TOTAL MEMBERSHIP. >> OR PROPORTIONAL. >> PROPORTIONAL. >> I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THOSE ONES. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE INTERVIEWING WHEN WE'RE DOWN TO TWO TO FOUR. >> WELL, NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IN THE PROCESS. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE JUMPED AHEAD TO RELEASE IT. >> THAT PART WAS TO THE DETERMINE THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. THE POSITION PROFILE. >> THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS OPPORTUNITIES. >> TO DEVELOP. >> THE PROFILE. >> THE PROFILE. >> NOW, WHILE WE'RE AT IT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL INTERVIEW PROCESS. AGAIN, THE GROUPS WERE. >> ADMINISTRATORS. >> ADMINISTRATORS. >> CERTIFIED. >> CERTIFIED. CLASSIFIED. >> STUDENTS. >> STUDENTS. >> THEY DEVELOPED THE PROFILE AND THEY ALSO THE FINAL [INAUDIBLE] >> JUST THE FINALIST OF THE FINAL TWO. >> WE CAN'T DISCLOSE THE OTHER ONES DISCLOSED. >> THEN WE HAD YOU ALL COME SESSION WHERE THAT PROCESS WAS, WE'D HAVE A CANDIDATE TO TWO CANDIDATES ONE AT A TIME, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. [00:45:02] WE GIVE THEM 10 MINUTES, SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE. THEN WE COLLECTIVE QUESTIONS. WE, AS BEST WE CAN WITHIN THE TIME FRAME, ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND WE DON'T ELIMINATE QUESTIONS THAT WEREN'T FAIR OR ILLEGAL. BY ILLEGAL, I MEAN, WHICH CHURCH DO YOU GO TO? THINGS ALONG THAT LINE THAT ARE [INAUDIBLE] >> ONLY INTERNALLY ARE WE DEVELOPING PROFILE. PROBABLY IS WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SURVEY. >> SURVEY INPUT TO HELP US DEVELOP THE PROFILES. >> I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT PROFILE. THEN WE GET DOWN TO NOW WE HAVE AND I SAY TWO TO FOUR, BUT PROBABLY TWO OR THREE. THEN THEY COME TO TOWN FOR THE FULL DAY AND SEPARATE CYCLES ARE MEETING WITH THE GROUPS IDENTIFIED FOR MEETING WITH GROUPS. >> THEY'RE MEETING WITH THE GROUPS, BUT WE HAVE PUBLIC SESSIONS AVAILABLE FOR THEM AS WELL THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE AS WELL. >> THERE WAS ONE SESSION, RICHMOND. IT WAS ALL THE SAME EVENING CANDIDATES. I THINK TRAILER YOU WERE. >> I WAS. >> IS THERE ANYTHING I MISSED IN TERMS OF? >> NO. >> HOW DID THAT WORK? >> IT WENT REAL WELL. HE WAS FORMALLY SET, BUT THEN THERE WAS A QUESTION AND ANSWER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WRITE QUESTIONS DOWN. I PICKED UP, HE WENT THROUGH THE QUESTIONS WITH THE CANDIDATE, THEY ANSWERED THEM. THAT WAS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE OF IT. >> IT WAS ALL LIGHT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. >> WELL, IT WASN'T. >> WELL, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. IT WAS VERY LIGHT. >> THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO WE BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THE SIOUX CITY EDUCATION ASSOCIATION NEEDS TO BE IN THAT VISITING PROCESS, THE LAST STAGE VISITING, OR THAT WHEN WE SET IT UP WITH THE CLASSIFIEDS AND WITH THE CERTIFIEDS, THAT THE SIOUX CITY EDUCATION ASSOCIATION IS GOING TO BE SATISFIED THAT THEY HAD THEIR OPPORTUNITY FOR Q&A AND EVERYTHING. >> THEY GET A SEPARATE ONE. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO FIND. >> BY FINAL TWO CANDIDATES, THEY GET A SEPARATE SESSION. ALSO THESE FOUR GROUPS GET A SEPARATE SESSION WITH THE FINAL TWO CANDIDATES. THEIR OWN SESSION BEYOND THE PUBLIC. THEN THE PUBLIC HAS THEIR CHANCES TO ASK QUESTIONS. >> I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION THAT, THE UNION MEMBERSHIP WOULD BE IN THE CERTIFIEDS AND IN THE IN THE CLASSIFIEDS. BETWEEN THOSE SESSIONS, THERE'S NOT AN EXTRA ONE JUST FOR THE SIOUX CITY EDUCATION ASSOCIATION. >> NO. >> THE BUSINESS MANAGERS IN THAT SESSION AND GET ANY CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS, OR IS THAT EVEN AN ISSUE? >> WELL, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE LEADERSHIP OF THE ASSOCIATION CAN SELECT THEMSELVES OR BE SELECTED TO RESERVE. >> WE TELL THEM THAT THAT'S OKAY. >> IF WHAT THEY WANTED IS THEY WANTED TO PUT BUSINESS MANAGER INPUT IN THE VEAL, THEY CAN HANDLE THAT BY SELECTING THEMSELVES INTO ONE OF THOSE TWO GROUPS, CORRECT? >> THERE'S ONE NETWORK. THERE'S ONE TEACHER GROUP. >> IS ONE CHILDREN BEEN CERTIFIED? >> YEAH, IT IS. CERTIFIED GROUP. >> IT'S JUST TEACHER. >> THE WAS IN TRACK. >> THE ADMINS. >> CLASSIFIED. >> WHERE GROUP PETTY GO TO? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? >> NO. I'M ASKING WHAT GROUP WOULD BRENDA GO TO? >> GO TO THE CLASSIFIED GROUP LAST TIME. LISA WAS PART OF THE CERTIFIED GROUP AND THEN BRENDA WAS PART OF THE CLASSIFIED GROUP. >> THE DISTRICT WORKED WITH BOTH ASSOCIATIONS UNIONS TO DETERMINE WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. THE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION ASKED FOR BOTH GROUPS ASKED THAT IT BE PROPORTIONAL. 70% OF THE MEMBERS BELONG TO THE UNION TO THE ASSOCIATION, AND 70% OF THE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING WERE MEMBERS OF THE UNION SELECTED BY THE UNION. WHETHER IT'S CLASSIFIED OR CERTIFIED. >> I THINK ALL OF THAT DETAILS SOUNDS GOOD NOW. AGAIN, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING A PROFILE. I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE DOWN TO ONE OR TWO. >> THAT'S MY COMMENTS. >> I APPRECIATE THE LAST TIME THERE WAS [00:50:03] ONE COMMUNITY SESSION AND IT WAS LIGHTLY ATTENDED. I FEEL LIKE [OVERLAPPING] >> THREE COMMUNITY SESSIONS. THEY WERE SPLIT BETWEEN WEEKS BECAUSE WE HAD TWO IN ONE WEEK. I SAID I'M TRAVELING SO WE HAD ANOTHER ONE THE FOLLOWING WEEK. >> THESE WAS IN REALLY HERE ONE DAY. >> PARDON ME? >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE K? >> YOU'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE COMMUNITY INPUT SESSIONS WERE THE ONES THAT WE WILL COME OUT. THERE'S TWO DAYS WE'VE GOT TO PLAN. WE MEET WITH THE STAFF AND THEN WE MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE LIGHT. THE TWO FINALISTS, WE HAD GOOD ATTENDANCE AT THOSE. WHEN THEY ASKED THE QUESTIONS. >> TRAILER [OVERLAPPING] >> SIXTY. >> I THINK THERE WAS 60, 70 PEOPLE. >> IT WAS PRETTY LIGHT. >> THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE QUESTIONS. >> MAKE SURE TO REMIND ME AGAIN THOUGH. WHEN THE FINAL TWO CANDIDATES COME IN TOWN WITH THEIR SIGNIFICANT OTHER, I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD A SESSION WITH THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, EACH ONE OF YOU HAD A SESSION WITH THE COMMUNITY. >> DO THEY HAVE MULTIPLE SESSIONS AT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS OR JUST ONE? >> JUST ONE. >> AT ONE SCHOOL. >> WE WERE IN A LIBRARY [OVERLAPPING] >> BUT THEY ALSO WENT AROUND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS? >> THEY VISITED THE SCHOOLS. YOU SET UP A TOUR FOR THOSE. >> DID THEY ALSO GET INTERVIEWED BY STUDENT CERTIFIED, CLASSIFIED, AND ADMIN DURING THAT TRIP? >> THE TWO FINALISTS? >> RIGHT. >> YES. >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THEY GOT SPECIFIC INTERVIEWS WITH THOSE FOUR GROUPS. AGAIN, INTERNAL GROUPS. THEY HAD SEPARATE INTERVIEWS WITH THOSE FOUR GROUPS. >> I'LL GET TO THE POINT THAT I WAS GETTING TOWARD. I REMEMBER WHEN [INAUDIBLE] WAS PICKED. I REMEMBER WHEN [INAUDIBLE] WAS PICKED. I DON'T KNOW IF I WASN'T HERE OR FOR SOME REASON I WASN'T TUNED IN TO THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS THE LAST SESSION EARLIER. BUT I DO REMEMBER ABOUT THOSE TWO SESSIONS, IS THAT THERE WAS THIS SENSE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID REACH OUT TO CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WAS ONE OF THEM. >> SURE. >> THEY HAD A MEETING OVER IT FOR BOTH OF THOSE SESSIONS. I WAS THERE AROUND THE TABLE MEETING IN WHICH IT COULD HAVE BEEN SELECTED QUESTIONS. >> SURE. >> WE WROTE OUT AHEAD OF TIME. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US OUT A GREAT DEAL IF WE INCLUDED THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY OUT. >> [OVERLAPPING] SPECIFICALLY OR FINALLY. >> YOU COULD ADD THEM AS AN INTERVIEW GROUP, IF YOU WANTED TO. >> THAT'S ALL. ALL I WANTED TO BE IS LOOK LIKE I GET ACQUAINTED THING. INPUT, I DON'T KNOW IS [INAUDIBLE] IS SO IMPORTANT. IT'S REALLY WE'RE INTRODUCING PEOPLE AND YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS. I'M NOT OPENING THE DOOR FOR ANY DISCUSSION THAT NOW LET'S GO TELL THE BOARD WHO TO PAY. >> THEY CAN'T ATTEND THE GENERAL COMMUNITY SESSION? >> I'M JUST SAYING THAT [INAUDIBLE] LAST TIME. >> BECAUSE THE CHAMBERS DIDN'T GET THEIR WAY. I'LL JUST TELL YOU. THE CHAMBER DIDN'T GET THEIR WAY. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PICK THE CHAMBER OVER EAST SIDE RIDGE CLUB? WHO'S MORE IMPORTANT? WHO'S WORTHY OF BEING IN THOSE GROUPS? >> [OVERLAPPING] I APPRECIATE DISCUSSION AS TO WHICH GROUP. WHO DO YOU SAY YES TO GET A SPECIAL SESSION? >> WAS ASKING. >> WE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THE UNION, WHERE IT TAKES CARE OF BOTH UNIONS, AND THEY WOULD BOTH THAT. I'M SAYING, I THINK WE HELP OURSELVES. >> I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATE ANY OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION BE ON A PANEL OF INTERVIEWERS BECAUSE WHICH GROUP ARE YOU GOING TO DETERMINE AS WORTHY AND WHICH GROUP ARE YOU GOING TO DETERMINE AS NOT WORTHY? >> WELL, IF WE GET A LOT OF REQUESTS, AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION UNTIL YOU HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS. I EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT, WELL, WHO ELSE WOULD I REACH OUT TO IF I WAS GOING TO REACH OUT? I THOUGHT ANOTHER GROUP THAT CERTAINLY HAS A LOT LIKE THE ROTARY GROUP AND OTHERS, AND I THOUGHT, HOW DO WE PRESENT THE IMAGE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY? BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE CONNECTED, AS OPPOSED TO CLOSING THE DOORS TO OUR CASTLE AND SAYING, WE'RE JUST MAKING DECISIONS ON THE INSIDE. >> I THINK YOU'RE STRETCHING YOUR BRIDGE TOO FURTHER, BUDDY. YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BRIDGE THING. [OVERLAPPING] >> GUYS. >> CAN I FIRE OFF TO SEGER? [00:55:01] WHEN YOU START, I'D LIKE TO HEAR, LANCE, WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO CALL THEM SPECIFICALLY WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AT OTHER MEETINGS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. >> I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK LAST TIME. >> HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE IT DIDN'T WORK? >> THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY FELT LIKE THEY WERE NOT BROACHED OVER. >> IT'S EASIER TO PORTRAY THAT AS THEY WERE SITTING BACK IN THEIR DEN AND YOU DIDN'T COME TO SEE US. BUT BUT THEY FELT LIKE, AND I WAS TOLD IT WAS VERY LIKELY ATTENDED BY ANYBODY IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I DID NOT EVEN KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED, BUT THAT I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT I WAS PAYING ATTENTION EITHER BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS GOING ON A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN THIS DECISION WAS MADE. >> BUT I WE HAD A GREAT PROCESS AND THAT THEY HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THREE DIFFERENT MEETINGS AT THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. IT FEELS LIKE A REALLY SLIPPERY SLOPE. >> BUT WHO ELSE WOULD A SLIPPERY SLOPE DO WHAT? >> NOT INCLUDING EVERYONE. WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AND EVERYBODY HAS THE EXACT SAME OPPORTUNITY, SO IT'S EVEN. IF YOU'RE PART OF THE CHAMBER, IF YOU'RE PART OF THE ROTARY, IF YOU'RE PART OF THE BRIDGE CLUB, WHATEVER YOU'RE PART OF, YOU HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS EVERYBODY ELSE ACROSS THE BOARD. IF WE SPECIFY, WELL, THE CHAMBER GETS THEIR DAY AND THE ROTARY GETS THEIR DAY OR ETC. DID YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? >> I DO SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I UNDERSTAND. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU IT DIDN'T WORK. >> I DISAGREE WITH YOU. [OVERLAPPING] >> JUST BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T HAPPY WITH WHAT WE DECIDED AND HOW WE DECIDED, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DIDN'T WORK. THEY WERE NOT HAPPY WITH THE INTERIM APPROACH. THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE INTERIM APPROACH FOR A FULL YEAR BEFORE. THEY DID NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL. THEY WERE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, I PERSONALLY INVITED CHRIS MCGOWAN. CHRIS, WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THE SEARCH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOUR INPUT. I INVITED HIM ON THE NORTH SIDE WHEN WE WERE AT A GRADUATION PARTY. I [INAUDIBLE] CHRIS, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOUR INPUT ON THIS. HE NEVER CALLED ONCE. HE NEVER CALLED. >> HE ACTUALLY ATTENDED ON THE FRONT SIDE. HE ATTENDED ONE OF THOSE SESSIONS. I THINK IT WAS THE ONE AT WEST. >> THANK YOU FOR THE DIRECTIONS. >> [OVERLAPPING] ABOUT CHRISTOPHER. >> CHRISTOPHER MO WAS UPSET. SHE WAS UPSET. [OVERLAPPING] WAS UPSET BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE DECISION THAT WE MADE. >> DAN, CAN I? [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'RE SILENT ON THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITY BETTER THAN WE DO. NOW THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOME SPECIAL GROUPS AT THE CHAMBER AND INCLUDE THEM. BUT WE CAN'T JUDGE THAT, ONLY YOU CAN. THIS IS WHY I'M SITTING SILENT RIGHT NOW. >> I'M HAPPY WITH US MOVING ON BECAUSE I HEAR YOU SAY, YOU GUYS NEED TO DECIDE, AND THAT CAN BE DECIDED IN THE INTERIM BECAUSE I'M CERTAINLY NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ANY SPECIAL ARRANGEMENTS ON THE EARLY PROFILE. BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE REALLY MAKING IS WE HAD WRITTEN SURVEYS, AND THEN WE HAVE IN PERSON OPPORTUNITIES FROM PURELY INTERNAL PEOPLE, PEOPLE WITH, AS YOU SAY, A STAKEHOLDER. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE IMAGERY OF MAKING THE COMMUNITY A FULL STAKEHOLDER I THINK IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO THIS NEXT SUPER TIME. WE NEED TO CONSIDER. I HEAR WHAT BOBBY SAYS, I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY, DAN, AS WELL. I'M HEARING JANE SAY THE SAME THING, IS AS LONG AS THERE'S A MEETING AT, I THINK IT WAS WESTERN ISLAND TECH, WHAT I WAS TOLD THERE WAS A MEETING. [OVERLAPPING] >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] THE DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOLS THERE. >> THAT MORE HIGH SCHOOL. >> WE HAD THE SESSIONS OF THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS WE HAVE. [OVERLAPPING] >> I HAD LISTENING SESSIONS. CHRIS MCGOWAN DID PARTICIPATE AT WEST AND THEN HE DID ATTEND ONE OF THE FINAL TWO SESSIONS AT NORTH. >> WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, THIS WILL HELP YOU, I THINK. WHAT WE DID LAST TIME IS WE TOOK THREE DAYS. NOW WE'RE DOWN TO TWO ON YOUR CONTRACT. [01:00:04] FOR YEARS OF TIME, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, FOR EXAMPLE, DAY 1, LANE AND I SPLIT, AND WE HAVE A SCRIBE, SOMEONE TO TAKE NOTES FOR US, WHERE YOU MAKE THIS WORD. FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD GO TO WEST DISTRICT STAFF. IT CAN BE WEST HIGH SCHOOL OR ANYWHERE ELSE AT 4:00. AT 6:00, THERE'S AN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SESSION. OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. ANYBODY. CHAMBER, ROTARY CLUB, PARENTS, WHOEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE. THE SAME TIME, LANE DOES THE SAME THING. HE MEETS WITH DISTRICT STAFF AT NORTH AT 4:00, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT 6:00. THAT'S DAY 1. DAY 2, WE DO EAST HIGH SCHOOL. I WOULD DO 4:00 P.M. DISTRICT STAFF OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, ONE, TWO, THIRD OPTION FOR OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IF YOU WANT IT, YOU CAN HAVE BLAINE DOING A VIRTUAL. >> WITH TECH HELP. >> WITH TECH HELP. [LAUGHTER] >> WE'RE SAYING CHAT. >> WE DO A VIRTUAL. >> THAT WAS ALSO [OVERLAPPING] >> DISTRICT STAFF AT 4:00, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT 6:00. IF WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OPTIONS FOR ANYBODY. AS PUBLIC. IT CAN BE PARENTS, IT CAN BE STUDENTS, IT CAN BE CHAMBER, IT CAN BE ANYBODY YOU WANT TO INVITE. YOU CAN SAY, CHAMBER, WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES, I WISH YOU WOULD ATTEND THIS, AND WHATEVER GROUP YOU WANT TO LIST. >> LESLIE, DID WE SEND OUT A SPECIFIC INVITATION TO THE CHAMBER AND THOSE THINGS TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE OPEN FORUMS AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS? >> JAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE SPECIFICALLY EMAILED THEM DIRECTLY, BUT WE PROMOTED THIS EVERYWHERE. THROUGH THE LOCAL MEDIA AS WELL. >> THE MEDIA CAME TO OUR VERY FIRST ONE AND WE ANNOUNCED THAT WE'RE HAVING ENSUING ONES, AND I THINK WE HAD AT LEAST TWO. >> TELEVISION STATIONS. >> BUT WE HAD PROBABLY TURN OUT [OVERLAPPING]. WE HAD LESLIE AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE AND. >> SHANICE. >> SHANICE TO GET A DOZEN. WE HAD THE MEDIA. >> OUR FIRST ONE. >> I THINK THAT'S MAYBE THOUGH SOMEHOW IF WE CAN. >> THE ONLY THING YOU CAN, WHAT YOU HAVEN'T ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR IS INVITING ANY GROUP TO FOUR OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE. BUT SO FAR YOU HAVEN'T SAID YOU WANTED A SEPARATE GROUP, WHETHER IT'S THE CHAMBER OR ANY OTHER GROUP TO BE. >> EXCUSE MY CANDOR. BUT THERE'S A COMMUNITY GROUP. WE DO THREE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY SITES IN EACH SIDE OF TOWN THAT WORKS FOR LOGISTICS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE DISTRICTS, AND EVERYONE IS INVITED TO THAT PARTY. THERE'S A FORMAL INVITATION THAT IS DONE THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM THAT GOES OUT. IF YOU MISS YOUR INVITATION, YOU DON'T COME, BUT EVERYONE IS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY FORUMS DONE. IN MY OPINION, WE'VE SPENT TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A PLAN TO INCLUDE EVERYONE. WE INCLUDE THEM, WE'VE GOT A SCHEDULE, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED OUR GROUPS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST THAT ARE VITAL TO HELPING US PICK OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND HEAR THAT DONE. LET'S MOVE ON, PLEASE. WE HAVE THREE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY PEOPLE TO GET ENGAGED. IF YOU MISSED THE ONE AT NORTH, YOU COULD DRIVE TO EAST OR WEST. >> YOU CAN CALL VIRTUAL ONE IF YOU WANT. >> OR VIRTUAL. >> YOU CAN ALSO IN THE ENTRY PLAN OF YOUR CANDIDATE, GET HIM INVOLVED. THEY NEED TO BE GOING TO ALL THOSE SCHOOLS. >> WHATEVER THEY DO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TIME, WHATEVER THEY DO THEIR FIRST THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BE? WE'RE OKAY? >> GOOD. >> WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO MOVE AHEAD AND THAT'S FINE. I'M SITTING HERE THINKING, WHY IS IT SO HARD THIS TIME WHEN IT WASN'T SO HARD TWO TIMES BEFORE? BUT WE'RE DONE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR HERE BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO MOVE AHEAD. I AGREE WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND DAN ON THAT, SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT QUESTION. >> JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, [01:05:01] WHAT WE'VE ALSO LISTED IS THE NEXT ITEM, IS WHAT A JOB POSTING ON OUR WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT WE DO USE AN ADVERTISEMENT. NOW WHAT I DID IS I SIMPLY TOOK, THIS IS LAST YEAR. WITH ONE EXCEPTION ABOUT THE SIOUX CITY COMMUNITY SCHOOL DISTRICT, LESLIE HAS ALREADY UPDATED THAT. BUT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENT WHO POSSESSES, THOSE WERE THE PROFILE FROM THE LAST SEARCH. JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. IT'S NOT A NEW ONE. AT THE END, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT REQUIREMENTS AND WHERE YOU APPLY AND ALL THAT STUFF OF SALARY. THAT'S ALL FROM 2022. JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND LESLIE HAS ALREADY PROVIDED THAT INPUT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT, IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN. I WOULD LEAVE IT TO LESLIE MYSELF, BUT WE MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS YOU APPLIED TO GR RECRUITING. YOU DON'T READ RIGHT TO THAT. >> I MIGHT ALSO BETTER SERVE, PARTICULARLY FINDING THAT YOU DON'T ATTEND ANY OF THE SESSIONS WE'RE IN. BECAUSE THEY'LL BE LOOKING TO YOU AND YOU'LL BE INVITED TO ENGAGE. IF I WERE A WOMAN, I COULDN'T RESIST. >> WE ARE UNINVITED TO THOSE PARTIES. >>YEAH, I AGREE THAT THAT'S GOOD. >> WE'D RATHER YOU DIDN'T COME IN. WE DON'T THINK THAT WORKS. >> I AGREE. >> WE'VE SEEN TRAINS WRECKS. WHAT WE DID, THERE WERE SOME BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN. WE ACTUALLY MADE IT VIRTUAL SO THEY OBSERVE IT, AND THAT, THEY COULD OBSERVE. NOW, MY FINAL QUESTION, DO YOU ALSO WANT A VIRTUAL SESSION? >> PERSONALLY, I DOUBT MY EXPERIENCE WITH VIRTUAL MEETINGS IS THAT THEY'RE AWKWARD AT BEST. AND IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO PARTICIPATE IN IT, IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE A HARD TIME FINDING A BIG ENOUGH TOOL TO HANDLE ALL THE QUESTIONS. I THINK THREE IS GOOD. >> THESE IS PUBLIC SESSIONS? >> YEAH. >> I AGREE WITH JOHN. >> NO VIRTUAL. WE HAVEN'T HAD GOOD SUCCESS SESSIONS. >> THREE SESSIONS OPEN TO EVERYBODY. I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST AT SOME POINT IS MAYBE WE PICK ONE AND WE SEND [INAUDIBLE] SAY THIS IS A GOOD ONE FOR YOU TO GO TO, AND THEN THAT HIGHLIGHTS TO THEM THAT THEY WOULD SHOW UP RATHER THAN FEEL LIKE THEY WERE NOT LISTED. WE GET IT DONE, BUT I AGREE THAT VIRTUAL, I THINK, IT'S HARD ON THE CANDIDATE. >> I ASKED THEM, WE THROW THAT OUT JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST IN THAT BECAUSE I KNOW SOME. >> WE DIDN'T DO IT LAST TIME. >> NO, WE DIDN'T DO IT LAST TIME. JUST TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. >> I WOULD PREFER THAT WE HAVE VIRTUAL FOR PEOPLE TO WATCH BUT NOT PARTICIPATE. >> WE WATCH THE SESSION. >> YEAH. >> WE CAN DO THAT. EASY. WE DID IT LAST TIME. [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU SAID YOU SAID LESLIE'S GOT THIS, EVERYTHING UP TO REQUIREMENTS. SHE'S UPDATED AND I GUESS [INAUDIBLE] SPEAK LATER, BUT SO THE REQUIREMENTS, IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD UNTIL WE TALK ABOUT SALARY RANGE. >> YOU'LL HAVE TO SET SALARY LATER AND ALSO CHANGE THE PROFILE. >> PARDON ME. >> THE PROFILE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE. THIS IS FROM THE LAST. >> THAT'S THE LAST MEETING. >> WE HAVEN'T DONE THE SURVEY YET. >> ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER OR NOT? >> THE PROFILE? >> NO, THE SALARY RANGE. >> YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT LATER. >> IS NOW THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT SINCE WE'RE ON IT, OR IS THAT LATER? >> LET'S GET A FEW [INAUDIBLE] >> LET'S GO WITH, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, YOU CAN SEE THE SURVEY WE USE. NOW WE DO WITH K12. K12 IS THE SAME COMPANY THAT DOES YOUR CLIMATE SURVEY. IN FACT, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A OVERLAP. I'VE RUN ONLY ONE LITTLE DIFFICULTY ON THE TIMELINE AND I'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU IN A MINUTES. LET ME COME BACK TO THAT. THAT ESSENTIALLY IS, WE HAD TO UPDATE THE SURVEY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN CHANGED. I WORKED WITH THE DISTRICT TODAY, WE GOT THAT UPDATE UNDER WAY. IT MAY CAUSE US TO HAVE THREE LANGUAGES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT TWO OR THREE DAYS ON IN ORDER TO GET THAT OUT THERE. WE TRIED TO TIME IT SO THAT WE GET THAT OUT AHEAD OF, SO IF THEY AREN'T COMING OUT THE SAME DAY, PARENTS, STAFF DO A SURVEY ON THE SAME DAY ON TWO DIFFERENT TOPICS. [01:10:03] >> SURVEY THE T BECAUSE WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SURVEY CONFUSION. >> LESLIE, THAT K12, IS THAT THE SAME ONE WHERE THE RESULTS WE SAW, THEY WOULD ONLY COUNT THE FIRST YOU HAD A, B, C, D, E, AND IF YOU ANSWERED A, IT WAS POSITIVE AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS NO IN SPITE OF WHAT IT REPRESENTED? THAT'S WHY WE GOT NUMBERS LIKE 10%, 15% SATISFACTORY FEELING THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND ALL THOSE KINDS. IS THAT THE SAME? >> IT'S OUR DISTRICT CLIMATE SURVEY. >> THAT'S THE CLIMATE SURVEY. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO CANCEL. >> NO. I'M SAYING, THEN WHY ARE WE USING THEM TO TELL A CANDIDATE THAT ONLY 15% OF OUR STUDENTS FEEL SAFE AT SCHOOL. >> WE DON'T USE THE CLIMATE SURVEY FOR OUR CANDIDATES. >> IT'S THE SAME COMPANY. >> WE USE THIS SURVEY. IT'S SAME COMPANY. >> LESLIE, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW COMMUNICATION TOOL THAT TRANSLATES INTO LIKE 60 LANGUAGES OR 100 LANGUAGES OR SOMETHING. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE SURVEY OUT USING THAT TOOL? >> WE CAN PROMOTE IT OUT USING THAT TOOL. WE CAN PROMOTE IT, YES. THERE WILL BE A LINK. >> BUT THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO TAKE IT IN ENGLISH? >> NO. WE WORK WITH K12 TO TRANSLATE THIS INTO OUR SIX PRIMARY LANGUAGES, SO NOT EVERY LANGUAGE. >> WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. [INAUDIBLE] THE LAST THREE, AND YOU GOT SIX LANGUAGES? >> SIX PRIMARIES. >> BOTH SURVEYS ARE THE SAME LANGUAGES. >> THERE'S THREE OF THEM THAT WE HAVE TO UPDATE. EXCUSE ME. >> THERE WILL BE A MOTION. >> WE HAD IT BEFORE IN THE OLD SURVEY, BUT THEY'VE CHANGED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WE WORKED WITH THEM TODAY, SO THEY'RE WORKING ON IT NOW, SO HOPEFULLY, WE GET A GOOD TERM. >> A FEW BUCKS. IT WAS A PRETTY SMALL CHANGE TO TRANSLATE WHAT WE DID SURVEY EARLIER. IT WAS LESS THAN $1,000 TO PUT THEM IN THE LANGUAGES. >> THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE. SAY, 600 A LANGUAGE. YOU HAVE THREE LANGUAGES, SO YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT. WE WORKED WITH THE DISTRICT TODAY, WE'VE GOT IT TAKEN CARE OF. >> AS A TIME ISSUE, WE HAVE WITH SOFTWARE TO CHANGE IT OURSELVES. >> CAN YOU CHANGE THIS SURVEY? >> NO. >> [INAUDIBLE] MISUNDERSTOOD. >> NO, YOU CAN'T, UNFORTUNATELY. >> FOR THIS SURVEY? >> JUST TRANSLATE IT INTO A COUPLE MORE LANGUAGES [INAUDIBLE], BUT WE HAVE TO MOVE ON. IT DOESN'T MATTER. >> WE CAN CONTACT WITH K12 BUT WE CAN PAY THAT MORE TO TRANSLATE INTO MORE LANGUAGES, SO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR EACH LANGUAGE. >> IT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY. >> WHAT'S THE NEXT THING? >> NEXT THING IS WE TALKED ABOUT THE GROUPS THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN SECOND ROUND INTERVIEWS. WE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF? >> TO SOME DETAIL. >> THIS IS THE SURVEY THAT'S GETTING TRANSLATED. >> JUST SO YOU KNOW, DICK AND I FIGHT OVER WHO GETS TO WORK WITH THE STUDENTS. >> IT WILL HAPPEN PRETTY QUICKLY. >> WITH WHO? >> WITH THE STUDENTS. WE BET AND I ALWAYS LOSE FOR SOME REASON. >> IT WILL BE REAL SOON. THE SURVEY WILL GO OUT. THE SURVEY GOES OUT THE NINTH. >> OF THIS MONTH? >> YES. >> WEDNESDAY. >> THERE ARE THREE LANGUAGE WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL DAYS TO HAVE AVAILABLE, BUT WE'LL START AT THE NINTH. WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IT OVERRUNNING THE THE CLIMATE SURVEY. THERE'LL BE OVERLAP. >> THE CLIMATE SURVEY START FROM 14TH. >> ON WHEN? >> ON THE 14TH. >> 14TH. >> THIS IS WELL UNDERWAY. >> THE CLIMATE SURVEY IS [INAUDIBLE]. >> DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE SURVEY. >> THERE'S NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. >> LANCE, WE CAN, BUT WE DID THAT LAST YEAR. WE POSTPONED IT THREE OR FOUR TIMES LAST YEAR, AND WE FELT LIKE GIVING IT NOW BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR IS PROBABLY THE IDEAL TIME. THEN WE CAN PROMOTE IT DURING PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCES AS WELL. WE CAN PROMOTE BOTH SURVEYS DURING THAT SAME TIME PERIOD. THE REASON FOR THE TIME FRAME THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS TO ALIGN IT WITH CONFERENCES AND PARTICIPATION. >> IT IS A TIME WHEN WE GET THE BEST ANSWERS? >> I THINK IF YOU MOVE TOO FAR INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR. [01:15:04] TO BE QUITE HONEST, SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL GET A LITTLE JADED THE CLOSER WE GET TO THE END OF THE FIRST SEMESTER TOO, SO WE JUST FELT LIKE THIS WAS PROBABLY THE BEST TIME. WE WANTED TO DO AT THE SAME TIME THE VERY LAST YEAR AND WE HAD A FEW THINGS COME UP, AND SO WE HAD TO KEEP PUSHING IT BACK AND ALSO, WE DIDN'T GET IT OUT UNTIL JANUARY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BEST TIME. >> THEN DURING PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCE IS WHEN PARENTS ARE MOST ENGAGED AND THAT'S [INAUDIBLE]. >> WE HAVE A FLYER ALREADY READY THAT WE'RE READY TO SEND OUR SCHOOLS THAT HAS POST SURVEYS ON IT [INAUDIBLE]. >> I HAVE TO SAY THEY'VE DONE IT. THEY DID A GREAT JOB BEATING THE BUSHES TO GET [INAUDIBLE]. >> THE TURN OUT WILL OVERLAP, IT WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE LOWER, BUT THAT'S FINE. WE'RE MAKING OUR BEST EFFORT. >> FOCUS IS, FIRST, ON THE HEAD START. >> WE HAVE ADVERTISEMENT? >> OUR CONTACTS. >> THE CONTACTS ARE, I ASSUME, THE BOARD PRESIDENT, SHANICE, LESLIE. >> PERFECT. >> WHAT? >> I'M SURE JAN WILL GO VOLUNTEER, SO EVERY COMMITTEE MEMBER. >> WELL, HE ALREADY HAS EXPERIENCE BEING THE CONTACT PERSON. YOU'VE SEEN THE DESCRIPTION THAT WILL PUBLISH, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT UPDATED YET. WE'VE EXPLAINED WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THE ADVERTISEMENTS, WHICH IS ONE OF YOUR EXPENSES IS FOR THE MATERIALS ARE IN THERE. THESE ARE THE ADVERTISEMENTS WE WOULD NORMALLY MAKE. >> JACOB, THAT'S FAR ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT FIRST SET OF PRICES IS FOR. >> IS THAT AASA? >> AASA. THEY OMITTED IT. >> YEAH. IT'S AASA. >> ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION. >> AMERICAN ADMINISTRATORS SCHOOL ASSOCIATION. >> I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. IT'S A PARENT THE NATIONAL ONE OF SAA. >> ED WEEK AND ITS WEBSITE, ED WEEK AT THE NEWSPAPER, MOST EDUCATORS GET. YOU SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WE HAVE TWO GROUPS, NABSE AND ALAS. AS YOU CAN SEE ALAS IS THE LATINO ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION, NABSE IS THE BLACK EDUCATORS ASSOCIATION ADMINISTRATORS GROUP. YOUR RECRUITING, OF COURSE, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AND FREE OBVIOUSLY. IOWA WORKS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR DISTRICT CHURNS THINGS INTO. WHAT DID IT USED TO BE? WELL, IT'S. >> [INAUDIBLE] WAS STILL THERE. THEY'VE REACTIVATED, SO YOU MAY WANT TO DO BOTH. AT FIRST, THEY MERGED THEM AND NOW THEY STARTED THEM BOTH UP. >> [INAUDIBLE] IS THE ONE WE HAVE HERE. THE DISTRICT HAS TO DO THAT. >> WE'VE DONE THAT NOW PROBABLY THROUGH YOUR OPENINGS. >> THE ADMINISTRATORS AND BOARD ASSOCIATIONS DENY WHY THEY DON'T DO IT. >> WHAT'S THE SUCCESS RATE ON ALL OF THESE FOR GETTING APPLICANTS? DO YOU KNOW? >> WHAT I WOULD SAY IT'S HARD TO BREAK IT DOWN PER ADVERTISEMENT. WHAT WHAT I WOULD LIST IT AS AASA AND ED WEEK ARE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE BROADLY. THEN WHEN IT COMES TO NABSE AND ALAS, THEN WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES AT THEIR ACTUAL ANNUAL MEETINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT. OUR WEBSITE. >> SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WITH MY EXPERIENCE AT RECRUITMENT, THERE'S ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH THOSE AGENCIES. WE'RE NOT JUST ADVERTISING TO CHECK A BOX TO SAY THAT WE REACH THAT. >> EXACTLY. >> WE'RE INVOLVED WITH THEM. WE CHECK THE BOXES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE. NO. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF, AND I TRUST THESE GENTLEMEN CAN HANDLE IT. >> [OVERLAPPING] WHAT WE WILL END UP DOING IS WE WILL GET ON THE PHONE TO CALL CONTACTS. >> I THINK THE QUESTION TO PIG-BACK OFF WHAT EARL WAS ASKING, [01:20:02] DO WE ASK THE CANDIDATE WHERE DID THEY THE FIND THE APPLICATION? >> NO. >> NO. >> NO, WE DIDN'T. I THINK, FOR SOME, IT WOULD BE HARD TO SAY IT WAS THIS GROUP VERSUS THIS GROUP VERSUS THIS GROUP, JUST THE COMBINATION THERE. [OVERLAPPING] INVESTMENT FOR IT. THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, I BELIEVE. >> WELL, THAT IS PART OF MY QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE TIMELINES OF SIX WEEKS OR 30 DAYS. I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE CALENDAR AGAIN. I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT NINE WEEKS FROM THE TIMING OF THE PROFILE DONE UNTIL YOU CLOSE THE APPLICATION PROCESS. >> YEAH. >> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF IT'S NINE WEEKS, SO WE DO ADVERTISING FOR THREE MONTHS WORTH IF IT'S A 30-DAY [INAUDIBLE] >> DO WE STAGER THE ADS. >> YES, WE DO. WE'LL WORK WITH THE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT AND THEY WILL TIME AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME, JUDGING ON THEIR PRIOR EXPERIENCE. I CAN TELL BY YOUR FACE EXPRESSION YOU'RE NOT BUYING [INAUDIBLE]. >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I TRUST THEM IF WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE APPLICANTS CAME FROM, BUT HOW DO YOU TIME IT IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IT GAVE YOU A RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT? IT'S EITHER YOU DO IT OR YOU DON'T DO IT IS WHAT I'M HEARING. THESE DOLLARS ARE NOTHING, AND I WOULD WANT TO ADVERTISE IN THE ENTIRE NINE WEEKS ON ALL OF THESE IF NOBODY HAS AN OBJECTION TO THAT. >> WHEN WE'RE TALKING 200 BUCKS FOR SIX WEEKS, 400 BUCKS FOR NINE WEEKS. >> I THINK AS SOON AS WE GET OUR PROFILE OUT THERE. >> OUT THERE. >> I DIDN'T ADVERTISE THE FIRST DAY UNTIL THE LAST DAY. >> YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT WHAT? CUT IT [INAUDIBLE] >> EXACTLY. I'LL DO IT. I'LL TAKE IT TO THE TEAM. [LAUGHTER] >> GIVE ME BACK THAT ONE. >> YOU GOT THAT? >> YES. >> WE TOOK IT POND WATER TONIGHT. >> WHY CAN'T YOU [INAUDIBLE] >> I THINK IT'LL BE BETTER. I THINK THAT'S THE MESSAGE. >> THAT'S WHAT I THINK. >> WIDEN THAT. >> YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO ADDRESS ON WHAT IT CHARGES. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO ADDRESS, OTHER THING, IS WHEN WE ADVERTISE, WE GENERALLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU ADVERTISE A SALARY. THE WAY WE DEAL WITH THAT GENERALLY IS WE HAVE A SECTION IN THE ADVERTISEMENT THAT SAYS, THE SALARY WILL BE THE SALARY WILL BE IN THE RANGE OF, BLANK, PLUS AN EXCELLENT FRINGE BENEFIT PACKAGE. THE FINAL SALARY FOR THE SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE WILL BE NEGOTIATED AND DETERMINED BASED UPON IMPROVEMENT EXPERIENCE AND MEETING BOARD CRITERIA. THEY LIKE TO SEE WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE BALLPARK OR NOT. YOU'RE OFFERING A SALARY THAT'S COMPETITIVE OR EXCEEDS WHERE THEY ARE. CURRENTLY, WAS WORTH THE TIME. LAST TIME WE WOUND UP WITH A RANGE. IT WAS WHAT? 250-260, I THINK, WITHIN THE ADVERTISING. >> 240-260. >> 240-250. BUT THAT WAS FOR 2022, '23. EVEN THIS SALARY DATA IS FOR. >> LAST YEAR. >> LAST YEAR, '23, '24. YOU GOT TO CONSIDER YOU GOT THIS YEAR AND THIS PERSON DOESN'T START UNTIL NEXT YEAR. >> I SAW THIS AND I APPRECIATED WHAT'S IN THE PACK. >> DO YOU KNOW WHY IOWA CITY HAD SUCH A HIGH OR A DRAMATICALLY GREATER AMOUNT OF BENEFIT COST? >> SURE. >> TYPICALLY, HERE'S WHAT BENEFITS, AND DIFFERENT DISTRICTS HAVE DIFFERENT BENEFITS THAT ARE TYPICALLY INCLUDED AND THE BENEFITS NUMBER INCLUDE SOME DISTRICTS HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION BEYOND [INAUDIBLE] IS 9.4% OF THE SALARY AT A CAP OF 250. A LOT OF DISTRICTS, INCLUDING SIOUX CITY IN THE PAST, OFFERED 35, $40,000 YEAR OF SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION IN ADDITION TO THE [INAUDIBLE]. THEY OFFER MOST EVERYBODY A SINGLE PERSON INSURANCE RIGHT NOW. THEY DON'T DO FAMILIES. WE USED TO DO FAMILIES, WE WENT TO SINGLE PERSON. SOME DISTRICTS WERE OFFERED 10 OR 12 $6,000 FOR PROFESSIONAL DUES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU CAN JOIN. THEY'LL ALSO OFFER A TRANSPORTATION STIPEND OF $500 A MONTH OR $600 A MONTH SO THAT YOU DON'T TURN ANY EXPENSE REPORTS IN AS YOU'RE TRAVELING TO DES MOINES AND AROUND TO YOUR DISTRICT. THEY OFFER THAT. THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE COMPONENTS. MY SUGGESTION OR ANTICIPATION, I'VE LOOKED AT ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS THREE YEARS AGO, [01:25:03] AND SOME OF THEM OFFER REALLY SWEET SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT MONEY. THAT'S LIKELY WHAT THAT IS. LOWER SALARY, BUT THEN THEY OFFER A FEW SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT AND IT'S BASICALLY TAX-FREE CONTRIBUTION, AND THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THEM DO. MY EXPERIENCE IS LOOKING AT EVERY ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS, I PULLED EVERY ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS THREE YEARS AGO, EVERYBODY OFFERS A SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT. WE DIDN'T DO IT WITH ROD WHEN WE DID HIS CONTRACT BECAUSE HE WAS ALREADY RETIRED. THAT WAS ONE OF THE NEGOTIATION ITEMS. BUT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT OFFERS A SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION IN ADDITION TO A TRANSPORTATION OR STIPEND AND PROFESSIONAL DUES ORGANIZATION. >> IT WASN'T IN PLACE WHEN I WAS THERE. >> I AM LOOKING TOWARD TO TOTAL EVERYTHING. >> JUST THE SALARY. >> SALARY. >> SALARY. >> JUST THE SALARY. >> WE STILL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE. IN MY OPINION IS SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT, PROFESSIONAL DUES ORGANIZATION, AND SOME TRANSPORTATION STIPEND ON TOP OF THE SALARY. >> [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT THAT, I AGREE. >> AGENT WE CAN. WE WERE LUCKY. >> WE GOT LUCKY. >> WE GOT LUCKY. >> I'LL JUMP INTO THIS SINCE LIKE I SAID, I DID THIS THREE YEARS AGO, EVERY SINGLE CONTRACTOR READ. MY VIEW AND LOOKING AT THE ANALYSIS OF WHERE EVERYBODY'S AT RIGHT NOW, WE WANT TO ATTRACT A TOP CANDIDATE. MY TOMMY TELLS ME WE NEED TO HAVE A SALARY OF 270-290 SALARY ONLY. 270-290, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POLICE DISTRICTS, WHAT THEIR SALARIES ARE? >> IS THAT ABOUT 50,000 MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW? >> SORRY? RODGER TO 50 SOMETHING. 255, 250. >> WELL, THAT WAS LAST YEAR. >> [OVERLAPPING] 2.5%. TAKE 1.025 TIMES THAT 255, AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR SALARY. >> A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT WOULD BE WHEN. >> THE STANDARD? >> 255, 260, 265. >> BUILT IN A 2.5% AUTOMATIC INCREASE SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO ENGAGE INTO DETAILED DISCUSSION. 2.5, WE FELT WAS GOING TO BE A [INAUDIBLE] NUMBER OVER THAT TIME. >> THERE'S SOME NEGOTIATION AFTER WE PUT THIS RIGHT? WE WOULD NEED TO ARRANGE THIS TO [INAUDIBLE] >> THEN THEY REQUIRE. >> I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT START WITH THE THREE ON THE TOP. >> LOOK, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HIGHER IS BETTER. IF YOU WANT TO SAY 280-300. >> IT NEED TO BE WITHIN 20? IS THAT WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN? >> WE USUALLY SAY ONE NUMBER WORKS FINE. HE DID ARRANGE LAST TIME, IT WORKED. >> THERE WOULD BE TWO PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE AT 280 OR ABOVE AT BASE SALARY, AND THAT WOULD BE MILWAUKEE AND DES MOINES. YOU HAVE LINN-MAR, WHICH IS A RICH DISTRICT, IS 270. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> I WONDER THOUGH. THE REASON WHY I'M SUGGESTING THAT IF WE DO ARRANGE, IF WE AT LEAST HAVE A THREE IN THE NUMBER, WE WERE THROWING A WIDE NET, AND THAT'S BEYOND THE STATE OF IOWA. WE MAY COME BACK TO FINDING THAT CANDIDATES OUT OF THE STATE OF IOWA APPEAL TO US IN PERSON, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT SOMEONE IN, LET'S SAY, DALLAS, FOR EXAMPLE, APPLY BECAUSE IT IS [INAUDIBLE]. >> SUPPORT THAT. YOU SAID 283, I'D BE SUPPORTED WITH THAT? >> WELL, ROD'S SALARY, I THINK NEXT YEAR IF HE WAS STAYING WOULD BE 268.5 AT A ROUND NUMBER WITH THE 2.5 THIS YEAR, 2.5 NEXT YEAR. >> WE GOT HIM IN A ARGON THOUGH. >> WELL, SERGEANT BLUFF IS NOT ONE OF THE TOP 30 SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS MAKING BEFORE, AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. BUT I THINK 272 OR 310. >> IS THAT TOO WIDE, GUYS? BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WANTED TO [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'LL MAKE A WORD. >> I'M FINE. >> HOW ABOUT ONE NUMBER? HOW ABOUT WE JUST PUT IN 295 AND GO FROM THERE? >> WELL, I WOULD DO 280 AND 310. I HAVE 30,000 GAP. >> WE HAVE THREE IN FRONT OF ONE OF THE NUMBERS. YOU SAID 310? >> YEAH. TO THE HIGH. I THINK IF YOU UNDERSTAND, THEY DON'T HAVE A TON OF EXPERIENCE. I DON'T WANT TO PAY THEM 310, SO I DON'T WANT TO GO WITH ONE NUMBER. IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S MAKING 300, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A LATERAL FOR 301. >> I DISAGREE. [01:30:01] I WOULD GO TO THE HIGHER 280-310. >> I HAVE COMMUNITY ARTWORK OVER THAT ONE. [LAUGHTER] >> I GOT SOME TONS THAT'S WHERE WE EARN MONEY. THIS IS WHERE WE EARNED OUR MONEY. >> WHO DO YOU THINK, NARL? >> TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY WOULD BE MORE THAN WHAT BOB WOULD MAKE NEXT YEAR BY A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLAR AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAID 270, BECAUSE IT WAS AROUND [INAUDIBLE] >> I THINK I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE HIGHER NUMBER JUST BECAUSE BASED, I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE US. IF WE WANT TO ENTICE SOMEONE FROM, LET'S SAY WE GET OUR GREAT CANDIDATES FROM OUT OF STATE, LIKE WHERE YOU'RE AT. I THINK WE NEED A CITY. >> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE 310 OR WHATEVER YOU WANT THAT NUMBER TO BE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO PAY FOR. NOBODY IS GOING TO GO DOWN THE SALARY TO COME HERE. >> EXACTLY. >> IT'S TOO HARD OF A JOB. >> YOUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THAT CANDIDATE CAN COME IN YOUR NON-QUALIFIED RETIREMENT. >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I FORGOT IS RELOCATION. IF SOMEBODY RELOCATES, WE HAD RELOCATION SITE THAT IS TYPICALLY A FIXED AMOUNT. IT'S NOT OPEN IN A CHECK, IT'S WE'LL PAY YOU 35,000 40,000 FOR RELOCATION. >> THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD. >> 15? >> WAS THAT 15 THAT WE THREW IN THERE WHEN WE DID THIS LAST TIME? WE DID RELOCATION? >> [OVERLAPPING] RELOCATION. WE SAID WE WOULD DO A FIXED RELOCATION AMOUNT. WE DIDN'T HAVE IT. [INAUDIBLE] >> WELL, I GUESS THREE TIMES SO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. >> THAT'S THE OTHER NONE. >> LOOK AT I'M NOT GOING TO BE WITH 270, 310. I GOT TO GO THROUGH 280. IF WE LOOK LOOK AT 280 ON. >> LET'S TAKE A POLL. WHO WANTS IT TO BE AT 270? >> WELL, YOU CAN'T VOTE. WE CAN'T VOTE. >> I SAID POLL. >> WE'RE NOT VOTING. >> WE'RE NOT PASSING ANYTHING. >> I HEARD WELL ON THAT, WE'RE NOT VOTING, BUT HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL? >> YOUR FEELINGS ARE POSITIVELY 270. IT'S A FEELING. >> I LIKE 275 BUT I LOOK 280. I'M POSITIVELY FEELING 300. >> 310. >> 275. >> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH 10. >> 275, 310 GOOD. >> CANDIDATE THAT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER AND THEY'RE MAKING 200 TODAY. >> 275, 310. >> 275 WOULD MAKE THEM REALLY HAPPY. 270 WOULD MAKE THEM REALLY HAPPY. >> 275, 310? >> YEAH, 275. >> ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF WE'VE GOT A SHOT AT MAYBE SOMEBODY OUT OF ST. LOUIS OR SOMEBODY OUT OF THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHICAGO BECAUSE THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY IN CHICAGO OR SOMEPLACE LIKE THAT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A THREE. >> SOMEBODY FROM MY OFFICE. >> UNTIL THEY FIGURE OUT THEIR STANDARD. 310 IS A LOT MORE MONEY HERE. >> WHERE ARE YOU AT? >> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MONEY, SO 275, 310. >> YOU WORK AT A BAR. >> I DO TOO. >> BUT THAT'S HOW CASH IS MONEY LAUNDERING. [LAUGHTER] >> JOHN? >> I ALREADY CENTERED 270, I CAN GO 275. WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO STOP, I STOP 300. >> I LIKE LANCE'S OVER THREE. >> I LIKE IT AS AN OPTION. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE NEED TO GO THERE. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> [OVERLAPPING] IS GOING TO TAKE US THERE. >> CORRECT. >> WE MANAGE IT. >> IMAGINE THE SALARY, THAT'S NOT EVERYTHING [INAUDIBLE] >> THAT'S NOT BENEFIT. >> BUT TO GET SOMEBODY, WE'RE GOING TO OFFER RELOCATION IF THEY RELOCATE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OFFER LIKELY A SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT CONFIRMATION. BY ALL, THEY GET HYPERS UP TO 250. >> WE'RE TALKING CLOSER TOGETHER THAT. >> [OVERLAPPING] I REMEMBER LAST YEAR IT SAID 38, BUT I SEE SOME THAT GO TO 100. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 38 AND 100. >> THEY'RE NOT CHEAP. SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT ON PROFESSIONAL DUES AND SOME TRANSPORTATION SITE. >> I BE THE ONE TO [INAUDIBLE] >> NO, THAT'S WHAT THE SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT. >> FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH FOR MY HIRED HUSBAND IN THE CITY IN A LOT OF CASES, THE CITY MANAGER OR THE SUPERINTENDENT AT THE TIME COULD OPT OUT OF MY CASE AND TAKE THAT IN AS THE TSA OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY TAKE IT, AND I'M QUITE SURE THAT FALL AT THE TIME WAS NOT MADE A CHANGE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING [OVERLAPPING] >> I DON'T BELIEVE HE CAN [OVERLAPPING] >> NOT ANYMORE. >> YOU LOOK FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT? >> NO. >> WE'RE THE SAME. >> WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME AT THE PHONES. I HEARD 275-310, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. [01:35:01] >> THAT'S A CONSENSUS OF OUR [OVERLAPPING] >> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. IS THAT RANGE YOU BELIEVE? >> WE'RE FINE. >> YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT RANGE? >> WE ARE FINE. >> 275. >> TO 310. >> 310. >> I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON YOUR LIST. I THINK WE'RE STILL OVER AT ITEM NUMBER 8. >> IN TERMS OF LICENSURE, I DON'T LIKE LICENSURE. >> CAN'T BE A SUPERINTENDENT. >> YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET A LICENSE. >> BUT IT'S A CONTRACT TO A FINALIST THAT WOULD NEED TO OBTAIN LICENSE. >> [OVERLAPPING] WILL BE SUBJECT TO. >> I ASSUME WE ARE. WE WANT TO [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU CAN'T BY LAW. YOU CANNOT BE A SUPERINTENDENT WITHOUT A LICENSE. >> EARL, WE WOULD SAY TO A CANDIDATE, TAKE ME OUT OF STATE. CHECK ON YOUR LICENSE. >> SURE. >> LET'S SEE WHAT YOU NEED OR IF YOU [OVERLAPPING] >> WE GIVE THEM THE NUMBER OF THE PERSON DOWN TO BOD. >> I HEARD IN THE MORNING [INAUDIBLE] GENERALLY, THEY GIVE THEM A YEAR OR TWO TO COMPLETE. >> SOMETIMES YOU GET A CONDITIONAL. >> YOU HAVE A CONDITIONAL. THAT'S FAIRLY COMMON. >> THE CONTRACT STILL NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINING A VALID LICENSE BECAUSE SOMEHOW IF THEY WERE TO LOSE THEIR LICENSE, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN OUT CONTRACTUAL. >> CONDITIONAL IS. >> MAINTAINING A VALID IOWA ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. SOMETIMES THERE MAY BE A CLASS THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE IF STATE THEY'RE IN, IT MIGHT BE A CLASS IN SPECIAL EDUCATION OR HUMAN RELATIONS WAS ONE OF THOSE DOES. >> WE DON'T NEED TAKE A CLASS. >> I THINK WE'RE TO THE END. >> ANYTHING YOU NEED TO DO, BROTHER? >> NO, I JUST HAVE A PLACE I NEED TO GO. [LAUGHTER] >> NO, I JUST THINK WE SHOULD FIGURE ABOUT NEXT TIME, IT'LL BE EASIER. >> NEXT MEETING'S AT [INAUDIBLE]. >> YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT? >> SKILLS. >> BOB, WE'RE GOOD ALL AROUND HERE? >> WE'RE GOOD. >> WHAT'S THAT? >> I GOT TO GO BACK TO WORK. >> THE TEACHER CONFERENCE IS TODAY. >> IS THAT SAME THING AS PROFESSIONS? YOU GUYS ARE MORE WELCOMED TO SESSIONS JOURNEY COMING TO A THAT LITTLE MINEFIELD. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.