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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. WE ARE HERE AT THE WORK SESSION FOR
[I. Call to Order]
THE SIOUX COMMUNITY SCHOOL DISTRICT REGARDING THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH.HERE AT THE EDUCATIONAL SERVICE CENTER IS 4:30 IN OCTOBER 7TH, 2024.
>> DR. LOUIS AND DR. CHRISTIE, IS OPEN FOR YOU.
>> YOU HAVE A PACKET OF INFORMATION THAT WILL GIVE US A STRUCTURE FOR GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
WE HAVE A LOT TO DECIDE IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT WE'LL TAKE AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO GET DONE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THE VERY FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS
[IV. Approval of Agenda]
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SELECTING US TO CONDUCT THIS SEARCH.WE'RE PLEASED TO BE IN YOUR TRUST THAT YOU ARE ALLOWING US TO ASSIST YOU WITH THE PROCESS.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY BETWEEN LYNN AND I, WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONDUCT ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH BOARD MEMBER, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR INPUT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
[V. Citizen Input]
I THINK PROVIDED US A LOT OF INFORMATION THROUGH THIS PLATFORM FOR BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.PERHAPS WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER A LITTLE BIT BETTER TOO AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IT'S OKAY YOU'RE A SIOUX FAN. [LAUGHTER]
>> I HAD TO WAIT UNTIL I GOT BACK FROM THAT GAME.
>> THE GAME, A WHITE OUT [INAUDIBLE] WHICH TURNED OUT.
>> THEY DID. I'M A FAN OF ANYTHING THAT HAS IOWA IN IT.
>> I HAVE TO BE AS A FAN AS WELL.
>> WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MATERIAL YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WHAT WE HAVE, I THINK TO ACCOMPLISH.
THE VERY FIRST THING WE NEED TO ADDRESS IS THE TIMELINE.
IF YOU WOULD TURN TO THAT PARTICULAR TIMELINE YOU PROVIDED, NOTED IN YELLOW, OUR MEETINGS WHERE LYNN AND I MEET WITH THE BOARD, AND I DID NOT TAKE TIME.
I JUST OUTLINED A TIMELINE THAT FITS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR OR LAST TO TWO YEARS AGO, AND DURING THE LAST SEARCH, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF PLACES WHERE I HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION.
ONE IS WHEN I SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, CONSTITUENT STAFF MEETINGS ON THE 15TH AND 18TH, THAT'S LIKE WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY.
I KNOW BETTER ON FRIDAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT PARTICULAR MEETING ON FRIDAY NIGHT, BUT I COULDN'T FIND ANOTHER NIGHT YET.
SO I JUST HAD TO PUT A PLAY FOLDER AS MUCH AS ANYTHING.
THE FIRST THING IS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ON OCTOBER 29TH, IF THAT'S THE DATE YOU CHOOSE ON THE 27TH OF FEBRUARY, YOU CAN SEE IT GOING ON DOWN THE LIST THAT YOU'RE AVAILABLE AND IT'S NOT CROSSING OVER ANYTHING ELSE.
HAS EVERYONE HAVE A SENSE FOR HOW THOSE DATES LINE UP WITH EACH ONE OF YOU AND YOUR AVAILABILITY?
>> OCTOBER 29TH IS ON TUESDAY.
>> WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING ON THE 28TH.
>> ON JANUARY 27TH, WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING.
>> HERE'S MY QUESTION. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO WORK SESSION OR HIRE A SUPERINTENDENT ON MONDAY THE 28TH VERSUS A BOARD MEETING ON 28TH OF OCTOBER?
>> WE'VE DONE IT AHEAD OF A MEETING OF LIKE THAT BEFORE.
>> WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO TRY TO COMBINE THIS, LIKE ONE BEFORE?
>> DO THEY HAVE A NORMAL LENGTH FINALIZING THE SUPERINTENDENT PROFILE?
>> TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR AND A HALF.
SOME HAVE DONE IT IN 10 MINUTES.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT IN 10 MINUTES.
>> I CAN DO IT ON EITHER DAY. WOULD IT BE NICE IF IT'S ALL DONE AT THE SAME TIME?
>> IT'S UP TO YOU. WE HAVE ONE BOARD MEMBER WITH CONFLICT.
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>> ANYONE OPPOSED TO THE OCTOBER 28TH? I HAVE A SESSION BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING.
>> WILL THIS BE A CLOSED SESSION OR WILL BE AN OPEN SESSION?
>> WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING ANY CANDIDATES OR ISSUES SUCH AS THAT.
IT'S JUST SIMPLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THAT PARTICULAR DATE IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED AND DETERMINING WHAT ARE THE PROFILE.
WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS YOU'RE SEEKING IN THE NEXT SUPERINTENDENT? THAT'S PRIMARY.
YOU CAN GET A LOT OF DATA THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM IN THE END.
YOU CAN GO WITH IT AS IT LINES UP AND IT LITERALLY LINES UP.
HERE ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE LISTED THAT YOU SAW IN THE SURVEY.
YOU CAN SAY NO, I WANT TO REPLACE THIS ONE.
JUST WANT TO COMBINE THESE TWO OR COLLECTIVELY AS A BOARD, WE WANT TO ADD ONE OR TWO.
GENERALLY, WE SAY THERE ARE 8-10 ITEMS THAT SHOULD LIST IN THE PROFILE.
LAST TIME I TENDED TO BE THE PERSON THE SUPERINTENDENT NEEDS TO BE AS OPPOSED TO SKILL.
I JUST LOOKED AT THEM. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A MOMENT.
>> WELL, AS SAID WE HAD A DIFFERENT IDEA OF WHAT THE SEARCH WILL BE.
>> YOU'RE PROPOSING WORK SESSION AT 4:00 OR 5:00?
>> WELL, HE SAID 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR AND A HALF, SO YOU WOULD NEED TO PLAN BEFORE, SO TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE TIME.
>> BUT IF IT'S JUST A WORK SESSION, WE CAN'T MAKE A FINAL DECISION AT WORK SESSION?
>> BUT YOU WON'T DECIDE IT, AND THIS IS THE TIMELINE WE WANT UP.
THESE ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS, THE PROFILE, THE CONSENSUS.
WE AGREE THAT YEAH, THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE THEN WE WILL RIGHT AWAY THE NEXT MORNING, WILL HAVE THIS ON THE WEBSITES.
>> THE SURVEY DEADLINE IS THE 23RD AT 10:00 AM WHICH I THINK IS WEDNESDAY.
DOES THAT MEAN YOU'LL SEND IT TO US TO REVIEW ON FRIDAY THE 25TH?
>> WE'LL TRY TO GET IT TO YOU AHEAD OF TIME.
WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO COME BACK FROM K-12 INSIDE.
WE'LL HAVE IT NOT LATER THAN THE WEEKEND.
THAT'S WHY WE SET THE 29TH IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO TURN IT AROUND.
IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE, WE CAN GET IT BACK.
IF YOU WANT IT AHEAD OF TIME, THEN WE'LL WORK THE CASE OF INSIDE AS BEST WE CAN TO GET THAT TURNED AROUND, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING I NEED TO SEND TO THE BOARD SECRETARY ON A WEEKEND.
>> THEY DO A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF THEM?
>> YES. IT'S A PRETTY COMPLEX REPORT, YOU RECALL.
WE'LL REVIEW THE ACTUAL SURVEY IN A MOMENT LATER DOWN THE LIST.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DATA THAT WE'RE COLLECTING, NOT ONLY COLLECTING DATA ON WHAT I MEAN THE PROFILE, BUT IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A REPORT IN TERMS OF HOW THE DISTRICT IS DOING, PARTICULARLY FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER INVOLVEMENT STANDPOINT.
>> THEY WILL GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION.
>> THERE'S AN OPEN-ENDED SECTION IN THERE THAT SAYS, YOU CAN TELL US WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TELL US, AND THAT CAN BE VERY REVEALING.
I THINK IT WAS LAST TIME IN TERMS OF GIVING YOU A BETTER STATUS OF HOW THE DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY DOING.
IN FACT, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, FOR ME, THE QUESTIONS, WE'LL HAVE A COMPARISON TO TWO YEARS AGO FOR YOU.
>> FOR US TO GET THE INFORMATION BEFORE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SEND IT TO SHANICE OVER THE WEEKEND, CORRECT?
>> I'M HOPING WE GET IT DONE ON FRIDAY.
BUT I'M A LITTLE DEPENDENT ON K-12 INSIGHT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR WORK SCHEDULE IS.
>> WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE, SHANICE, IF THEY GET THE RESULTS OF THE K-12 INSIGHT DEAL THAT YOU'D HAVE THE ABILITY TO FORWARD IT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS OVER THE WEEKEND?
>> YEAH, I CAN FORWARD ON THE WEEKEND.
>> BE FORWARD TO THE SCHOOL EMAIL ACCOUNT OR TO OUR BOARD ACCOUNT?
>> IT WOULD BE TO YOUR SCHOOL BOARD ACCOUNT.
>> SOME OF US HAVE THAT [INAUDIBLE].
>> WHAT YOU SEE IN BETWEEN AND WE'LL COME BACK
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TO SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF ORDER.WE ALREADY HAVE A SURVEY LINK.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU WANT TO MEET THE MEETING WITH CONSTITUENT GROUP TO DETERMINE WHAT CONSTITUENT GROUPS YOU WANT US TO MEET WITH.
WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT YOU DID LAST TIME, YOU'RE NOT BOUND BY THAT.
YOU GOT A DIFFERENT MAKEUP HERE AND YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE PREVIOUS SEARCH FROM TWO YEARS AGO.
YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE START ACCEPTING CANDIDATE APPLICATIONS ONGOING AFTER THE 28TH ON JANUARY 6TH, THE DEADLINE FOR APPLICATIONS, WE MAKE THAT AFTER THE WINTER BREAK BECAUSE CANDIDATES OFTEN ARE MORE INTERESTED IN VISITING WITH THEIR FAMILY AND TAKING SOME TIME AND COMPLETING AN APPLICATION.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT BEFORE OR DURING THAT PARTICULAR BREAK.
OTHERWISE, WE COULD HAVE CONDENSED IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT OUR EXPERIENCE TELLS US THE DEADLINE WILL BE THE 6TH, TO THE 7TH, TO THE 20TH.
WE'LL WORK THROUGH SCREENING AND REFERENCE-CHECKING THE CANDIDATES, AND WE'LL PROBABLY START THAT AS WE GET APPLICATIONS IN AS WELL.
IT'S ONGOING. AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO SAY, HERE'S THE WHOLE APPLICATION LIST.
HOW DO THESE PEOPLE LINE UP? HOW DOES IT MATCH PROFILE? THAT YOU'RE IN A POSITION TO DETERMINE WHO YOU WISH TO BRING IN FOR A FIRST-ROUND INTERVIEW.
>> I THINK PRIOR TO THAT JANUARY 6TH DATE, IF I RECALL, STARTING IN LATE DECEMBER, YOU GAVE US, I HAVE EIGHT APPLICATIONS.
YOU DIDN'T SAY WHO THEY WERE. YOU JUST SAID, EIGHT APPLICATIONS, I HAVE 12 APPLICATIONS, I HAVE 20 APPLICATIONS.
>> I WILL SEND A REPORT TO THE BOARD OF PRESIDENT IN TURN SHARE IT WITH YOU.
IT'S JUST GENERALLY, HERE'S HOW THINGS TEND TO GO.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP ONE THING IN MIND, I'LL PREDICT A THIRD TO HALF APPLICATION WILL COME IN LAST WEEK, EVEN IF THEY MADE A DECISION TO APPLY A MONTH EARLIER.
THAT'S JUST HOW IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN.
PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS AFRAID THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXPOSED.
MOST CASES, A GOOD CANDIDATE WHO'S DOING WELL IN THE CURRENT POSITION CANNOT AFFORD TO BE IN A POSITION TO APPLYING FOR ANOTHER JOB VERY OFTEN.
PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A JOB OR NEED A JOB, NO PROBLEM.
[VI. Consent Action Item(s)]
>> WE DID DECIDE THE 28TH IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THOUGH.
>> I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR PREFERENCES.
I'LL LOOK AT THE MATERIAL EARLY ENOUGH IF WE CAN.
>> JUST ONE NOTE ABOUT THAT TIMELINE AND WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE WERE PLANNING ON PROMOTING THE SUPERINTENDENT SURVEY AND OUR DISTRICT CLIMATE SURVEY AND THEIR TEACHER CONFERENCES, AND THOSE ARE ON OCTOBER 22ND AND OCTOBER 24TH.
IF IT CLOSES ON THE 23RD AT 10:00 AM, THAT'S FINE.
WE'LL JUST PROMOTE IT ON THE 22ND AND LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO NOTE I GUESS FOR PARTICIPATION, THAT IT MAY BE GOOD TO PROMOTE IT ON BOTH DAYS OF CONFERENCES.
>> DO WE SEND THAT OUT, AND ALWAYS CALL THE PARENTS PRIOR TO?
>> WE DID LAST TIME, WE PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE SENT A PRESS RELEASE THE MEDIA WAS REALLY GOOD PARTNERING WITH US TO PROMOTE THAT.
THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE CONFERENCES AND WE HAVE THOSE TWO SURVEYS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OVERLAPPING AND WE COULD PROMOTE BOTH OF THOSE DURING CONFERENCES.
>> I GUESS I'M SUGGESTING THAT IF WE COULD THE DATE OF K-12 IS WILLING TO TURN AROUND OR IF THEY CAN TURN AROUND THE RESULTS QUICKLY ENOUGH,
[VII.A. School Calendars for 2025-2026, 2026-2027 and 2027-2028 – Barb Caskey]
IF WE COULD LEAVE THAT OPEN THROUGH THE 24TH, JUST SO WE HAVE GIVE PARENTS AN EXTRA DAY TO TAKE THAT.>> I APPRECIATE. I CAN GO EITHER WAY.
I'LL DEFER TO OTHER PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES, BUT DO WE THEN NEED THE TUESDAY SO THAT IT HAPPENS TO COME IN MONDAY MORNING, WE DON'T HAVE SHANICE WONDERING IF WE GET JURY SOON ENOUGH TO REVIEW.
SO MAYBE THAT IS THE WISDOM OF THE TUESDAY 29TH, EVEN THOUGH I APPRECIATE THAT OCCUPIES TWO DIFFERENT DAY FRAMES.
>> IF WE'RE GOING TO DELAY IT, WE NEED PROBABLY ANOTHER DAY.
>> I THINK I LIKE THE IDEA OF US BRINGING ATTENTION TO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT FROM PARENTS AT PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCE.
THE MORE THAT WE CAN REFER BACK TO THE FACT OF HOW MANY AVENUES WE OPENED FOR INPUT EARLY ON, I THINK THAT WILL BENEFIT US FROM THE LONG RUN.
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>> I THINK THE LAST TIME RESPONSE SURVEY WAS WHAT 17, 01,500 SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
WORK SESSION, OCTOBER 29TH TUESDAY, DO WE WANT TO GO KEEP IT AT 4:00 OR DO YOU WANT TO GO AT 5:00?
>> WORK SESSION AT 5:00, WILL THAT WORK BETTER FOR EVERYONE WORK SCHEDULE?
[VIII.Future Meetings]
>> IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE A REGULAR BOARD MEETING AFTER THE WORK SESSION TO MAKE A DECISION AND MAKE DECISIONS.
I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION CAN SHOW FAVOR APPRECIATE.
>> WE WOULD NEED TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL SESSION THEN?
>> YEAH. A SPECIAL SESSION, SPECIAL BOARD MEETING.
>> OR AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING.
YOU JUST MAKE A DECISION AT THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING.
>> WE COULD HAVE A BOARD MEETING GO OVER THIS.
WE DON'T NEED TO CALL IT A SPECIAL SESSION.
IT HAS TO BE A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING.
>> I LIKE SPECIAL BECAUSE IT KEEPS IT ON THE TOPIC.
>> THERE'S ONLY ONE AGENDA ITEM.
>> ONE AGENDA, SO THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING WILL HAVE.
>> I'M LOOKING IN JANUARY THE 27TH.
THAT'S WHEN WE MEET AND THAT'S WHEN WE'RE IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS CANDIDATES TO BE INTERVIEWED AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME DAY, SO YOU'LL DECIDE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, WHO YOU WISH TO BRING IN FOR FIRST ROUND INTERVIEW.
[IX. Superintendent’s Report - Dr. Rod Earleywine]
NOW, GENERALLY, THOSE ARE DONE ZOOM.>> WAS THAT DURING THE DAY LAST TIME OR WAS THAT AT NIGHT THAT WE DID THIS?
>> MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VIDEOS FIRST.
>> I'M MAKING A NUMBER UP. YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LIST OF 20 CANDIDATES.
>> ONE OF THOSE 20 CANDIDATES, YOU'RE GOING TO WHITTLE IT DOWN TO 12 THAT YOU THINK ARE MOST QUALIFIED.
FROM THOSE 12, YOU GIVE US A VIDEO OF EACH ONE OF THOSE 12, FIVE HARD CUT OFF MINUTES.
FROM THOSE VIDEOS, THEN WE WHITTLE IT DOWN TO WE'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW THESE, I'M MAKING A NUMBER UP SIX.
>> THAT WOULD BE ON THE 5TH AND 6TH WHEN YOU WOULD DO THOSE INTERVIEWS. MY APOLOGY.
WHAT WE ALSO DO, SO WE'LL DETERMINE WHO'S GOING TO BE FIRST ROUND INTERVIEWS ON THE 27TH. THAT TAKES SOME TIME.
ON THE SAME DAY, WE'LL MEET WITH WHOEVER YOU ESTABLISH AS INTERVIEW GROUPS OR TEAMS THAT WILL MEET WITH THE CANDIDATES TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO YOU.
[X.A. Human Resources Report(s) – Barb Caske]
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT IN MORE DETAIL, I JUST WANT TO FINISH THE TIMELINES FIRST.THEN ON 12TH IS WHEN YOU DO SECOND ROUND INTERVIEW WHERE YOU'RE DOWN TO FINALISTS, WHETHER IT'S 1, 2, 3.
NORMALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE TWO OR THREE.
THAT'S WHEN YOU BRING IN YOUR GROUPS YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
REMEMBER, WE PROVIDE FEEDBACK FORMS
[X.B. MOU Between Sioux City Education Association and the Sioux City Community School District – Barb Caskey]
THAT YOU GET TO READ BEFORE YOU MAKE A FINAL DECISION.YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PILE OF THEM, A LOT.
WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE A DAY IN BETWEEN.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TWO DAYS LISTED THERE, SO WE HAVE AMPLE TIME TO REVIEW THAT PARTICULAR INPUT BEFORE WE MEET WITH YOU.
I SCHEDULED TWO DAYS FOR FIRST ROUND INTERVIEWS JUST IN CASE.
IF IT CAN BE DONE IN ONE DAY, THAT'S FINE.
BUT TWO DAYS ALLOWS YOU TO DO THEM LIKE A LATE AFTERNOON EVENING, IF THAT INTERFERES YOUR WORK SCHEDULE.
IF YOU'RE ALL AVAILABLE DURING THE DAY, YOU CAN ROLL IT THROUGH ALL IN ONE DAY.
>> ALSO DEPENDS ON THEIR AVAILABILITY.
>> YES. KEEPING TWO DAYS OPEN HELPS IN CASE THEY HAVE A BOARD MEETING IN THEIR HOME DISTRICT.
>> YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY, I CAN'T MAKE THE BOARDS OR I'M EMPLOYED BECAUSE I GOT TO GO INTERVIEW SOMEWHERE ELSE.
>> WE'LL MEET WITH YOU AFTER YOU'VE MET WITH THEM AND AFTER YOU'VE INTERVIEWED THEM,
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AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PROCESS WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT WILL NARROW IT DOWN TO MAYBE 3, 2 FINALISTS.BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE TWO FINALISTS IS WHEN WE INTENDED TO HAVE THE MOST INTEREST IN PEOPLE WANTING TO PARTICIPATE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
[X.C. Student Achievement Update – Elementary Literacy, Science, & Social Studies – Amy Denney]
>> WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS TIMELINE? IN FEBRUARY 5TH AND 6TH, WE HAVE EAST FIRST ROUND OF CANDIDATES, AND WE'RE LIKE, [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT THEN WILL MOVE THIS TIMELINE, WE WOULD GO BACK.
>> IF WE GET THIS FAR, I THINK, WE'D BE LOOKING AT [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE MAY RESTART THE PROCESS.
>> IF WE GET TO JANUARY AND WE DON'T LIKE ANY OF THE CANDIDATE THAT WE HAVE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] DON'T LIKE ANY OF THE FIRST ROUND CANDIDATES, WE MAY STILL HAVE SECOND ROUND CANDIDATES.
>> WITH THAT 10-12 VIDEOS, WE'LL BRING ALL THE CANDIDATES MATERIALS AS WELL.
>> DID WE LOOK AT ALL THE VIDEOS OF ALL THE APPLICANTS?
>> NO, WE ONLY LOOKED AT THEM.
>> YOU NARROWED IT DOWN TO THE TOP 10.
>> THE ONES THAT BEST FIT THE PROFILE.
>> IT COULD BE SIX, IT COULD BE FIVE, IT COULD BE EIGHT, IT COULD BE NINE, IT COULD BE 10, NO MORE THAN.
>> I THINK WE HAD NINE OR SO LAST TIME WHEN WE LOOKED AT VIDEOS.
>> WE HAD VIDEO ON 11, YOU LOOKED AT NINE.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAD NINE, BUT WE SAW EIGHT BECAUSE SOMEBODY WITHDREW.
>> I DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, OR ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE PART OF THE NINE OR 12, ARE THEY IN THE POCKET?
>> THE POCKET OF PERSPECTIVES TO LOOK AT THIS GO AROUND
>> WE HAVEN'T STARTED, NOT UNTIL THE PROFILES.
>> NOT UNTIL THEY ESTABLISH THE PROFILE.
[OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THE PROFILE, TO YOUR POINT, DAN, IS DIFFERENT.
THIS PROFILE WILL BE DIFFERENT.
>> NOT VERY OFTEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY COMING BACK.
HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU APPLY FOR A JOB AND NOT BE SELECTED, AND THEN GO BACK AND EXPLAIN THAT TO YOUR COMMUNITY?
>> IT'LL DEPEND ON THE CANDIDATE.
SOME, IF THEY KNOW WE'RE MAKING REFERENCE CALLS, THEY'LL BE VERY CAREFUL.
MANY TIMES THE REFERENCE CALLS COULD BE FROM A PREVIOUS JOB OR SOMEONE THEY HAVE A SPECIAL TRUST IN, A BOARD MEMBER THAT THEY KNOW IT CAN BE. I CAN SPEAK.
I CHANGED JOBS, AND I ALWAYS WENT TO THE PRESIDENT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT I'M IN THE RUNNING FOR A JOB.
I FELT THAT WAS BETTER THAN THEM FINDING FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
>> AT THE SAME TIME, WE WORK WITH THE INTERVIEW GROUP, WHEREVER THEY MAY HAPPEN TO BE, TO DEVELOP THEIR QUESTIONS SO THAT EACH ONE OF THE TWO CANDIDATES ARE GETTING THE SAME INTERVIEW.
WE'RE VERY CAREFUL TO RECOMMEND THAT EVERY CANDIDATE GETS THE SAME GENERAL INTERVIEW THAN THE TWO DIFFERENT INTERVIEWS.
>> WE DID THOSE TRAINING SESSIONS HERE AT THIS BUILDING, AND WE CAN DO THEM CONCURRENTLY, DICK AND I WILL SPLIT UP. [NOISE]
>> THEN HOPEFULLY, WE'LL BE IN A POSITION AFTER THE INTERVIEW FINALISTS, THEY COME TO THE COMMUNITY AND BRING THEIR PARTNER, SPOUSE, COLLEAGUE, WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE SO THEY'RE UP TO SPEED IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION IMMEDIATELY WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO EXTEND POSITION.
WE WERE ASKING THEM ALL, ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED IN THIS, ARE YOU A SERIOUS CANDIDATE? ARE WE OKAY WITH IT? IN TERMS OF THE JANUARY, THE FEBRUARY DATES WORK FOR YOU AS WELL?
>> YES. WE DON'T WANT AN OPTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
THIS IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HAVE TO STICK TO GET THERE.
>> YES. ONCE WE SENT A TIMELINE, WE'LL LIVE UP TO IT.
IF FOR SOME REASON, WE DON'T PRESENT A CANDIDATE WHO BECOMES A FINALIST, IT'S YOUR OPTIONS, AND PERHAPS AN INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT MIGHT BE AN OPTION YOU WOULD CONSIDER FOR THE TIMING.
YOU WANT TO START CONDUCTING A SEARCH IN MARCH AS OPPOSED TO OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.
DIFFERENT CANDIDATE LIST, SMALLER CANDIDATE LIST.
>> ARE THE 12TH AND THE 14TH OF FEBRUARY SET IN STONE?
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>> WELL, I'M IN NEW YORK UNTIL THE 12TH.
>> WE CAN EVEN GO TO SATURDAY IF YOU WISH.
>> THERE WILL BE NO VALENTINE'S DAY THIS YEAR [INAUDIBLE] SATURDAY [OVERLAPPING].
>> I HAVE SOME VERY AWESOME NIGHTS.
>> ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS IS BETWEEN THE 12TH AND THE 14TH IS YOU HAVE A PILE OF FEEDBACK FORM FROM THE PEOPLE THAT SIT ON THE INTERVIEWING GROUP.
EACH GROUP WILL FILL OUT A FORM.
>> THE 14TH IS A FRIDAY ANYWAY?
>> YEAH, IT'S VALENTINE'S DAY.
WELL, NO, YOU SAID YOU'RE BACK ON?
>> WELL, I'M COMING BACK SOMETIME ON THE 12TH.
I HAVEN'T BOOKED A FLIGHT YET.
>> YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK ON THE 12TH.
>> MAY BE IT BACK, BUT IT'S FEBRUARY AND IT'S NEW YORK TO IOWA.
I MAY OR MAY NOT MAKE MY FLIGHT.
THEN ONLY ONE EVENING FOR THOSE OF US THAT STILL WORK DURING THE DAY TO REVIEW ALL OF THOSE INTERVIEW FORMS DOESN'T SEEM REALISTIC TO ME, BUT I WASN'T IN THE LAST PROFILE.
>> YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A LARGE DECK THAT WE GET ON THE 12TH?
>> WHAT HAPPENS IF WE PUSH THIS TO NEXT WEEK AND WE DO THE TUESDAY, THURSDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS FOR YOU GUYS.
>> THE WEEK OF THE 17TH? I'M GOOD.
>> NO HOLIDAYS, I GUESS. BUT WHAT IF WE MOVE THE 12TH TO THE 13TH, AND SO JUST OFF THAT ONE DAY, AND THEN WE COME BACK ON MONDAY, THE 17TH OR TUESDAY, THE 18TH, WHATEVER SO WE HAVE THE WEEKEND TO GO THROUGH THE STACK.
NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OUR WEEKEND GOING THROUGH A STACK.
>> THEY'RE INTERESTING. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'M SURE THEY'LL BE GREAT, YEAH.
>> THE ONLY THING YOU'LL BE MAYBE CAUTIOUS ABOUT IS BEING APPROACHED BY SOMEONE WHO HAS A FAVORITE CANDIDATE AS WELL.
>> I WOULDN'T PUT TOO MUCH TIME BETWEEN YOUR FINAL INTERVIEW.
IT ALSO CREATES A LITTLE ANXIETY WITH THE FINALISTS.
THEY'LL HAVE THE TIMELINE BEFORE.
>> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TALK TO YOU IN OR OUT A PARTICULAR DATE.
WE SIMPLY WANT YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER IN ORDER TO PRESENT THIS PROCESS.
>> MUCH TIME PASSED, I REMEMBER LAST TIME THE HEAVY LOBBYING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA THREADS WERE ALL LET UP AFTER EVENT CLOSE.
>> LET ME ASK BECAUSE NOW THAT I LOOK AT IT, REALIZING THAT THE MONDAY FOLLOWING VALENTINE'S DAY IS A PART OF A THREE-DAY HOLIDAY.
[NOISE] I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO DO BOTH SIDES OF THAT.
I WOULD PREFER TO BE DOING IT THE FOLLOWING WEEK AFTER JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS TRAVELING BECAUSE THERE'S A CONVENIENT TWO-DAY HOLIDAY.
>> TUESDAY, THE18TH, AND THURSDAY, THE 20TH?
>> THAT WEEK, THE WEEK OF THE 18TH AND THE 20TH.
>> WOULD THAT SET US BACK IF WE GO NEXT WEEK?
>> WELL, BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A DECISION BY MARCH 1ST, EARLY.
YOU CAN STILL HAVE A DECISION BY MARCH, IF YOU MOVE IT FOUR DAYS.
>> I DON'T WHEN WE MADE THE DECISION LAST TIME.
>> IT WAS IN JANUARY. SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES MAY HAVE OFFERS FROM OTHER DISTRICTS.
>> WELL, AGAIN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT DATES OF THE PAPER.
THEN WHY DON'T WE MOVE THE 5TH AND 6TH DAYS UP A COUPLE OF DAYS? I DON'T KNOW. IS THAT POSSIBLE?
>> 3RD AND 4TH OF FEBRUARY OR IN JANUARY?
>> 3RD AND 4TH IS A MONDAY, TUESDAY.
AFTER THE JANUARY 27TH DATE IS A MONDAY.
>> WOULD WE HAVE EVERYTHING DONE BY 29TH AND 30TH TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE?
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>> THE SOONER WE GET AN OFFER OFF TO THE CANDIDATES, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE BECAUSE ALL THE CANDIDATES, THEY'RE LOOKING LIKELY AT MULTIPLE OFFERS.
>> IT REALLY AFFECTS YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE SCREENING UP UNTIL THE 20TH OF JANUARY.
>> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE A PROBLEM.
>> I DON'T DO A LOT OF [INAUDIBLE] IN JANUARY.
>> A COUPLE OF OTHER ASSOCIATES WILL HELP US.
>> FOR THE INTERVIEW? THE 5TH AND 6TH DATES.
>> THE 5TH AND 6TH DATES. JUST MOVING THOSE 5TH AND 6TH DATES A WEEK.
THEN YOU CAN MOVE THE 12TH AND 14TH TO THE 5TH AND THE 7TH.
>> WE WANT TO MOVE THE 5TH AND 6TH AND THEN MEETING WITH [INAUDIBLE] LAST INTERVIEW CLOSED SESSION ON THE 30TH?
>> WE WERE TALKING THE 29TH, 30TH OF JANUARY?
>> FIRSTLY, ANYTHING IN THE DISTRICT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] WHAT'S THE DATE?
>> HOW ABOUT THAT 12TH OR 14TH?
>> I'LL KNOW [INAUDIBLE] AND I'LL TELL YOU ON THE PHONE.
IF I'M ON THE PLANE, I'LL TALK.
WE DIDN'T EVEN DECIDE THAT SUMMON.
WE SHOULD KNOW BY THE 6TH THAT EVENING.
>> THEN WE COULD MAKE A DECISION MAYBE EVEN THAT EVENING.
>> THE ASSUMING PROCESS IS BETWEEN 5, 2.
TAKES SOME TIME. THAT TAKES TWO OR THREE, IT TAKES SOME TIME.
>> THAT WAS A THREE HOUR CLOSED SECTION.
>> BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
>> BASED OFF OF THAT, YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE 12TH IS IDEAL.
>> NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE.
>> NO. I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE WE KEEP REFERENCING TO HOW WE DID THINGS PREVIOUS.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT TIME WAS NOT REFERRED HERE.
>> THEN I'M TRYING TO BE CONSIDERED OF THE TIME THAT WAS SPENT WITH THE MULTIPLE FACETS OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT PROCESS BECAUSE I'M REFERENCING OFF OF WHAT YOU GUYS PREVIOUSLY EXPERIENCED BASED OFF OF WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING TO HAPPEN.
I GUESS I'M JUST ASKING WITH THE 12TH WE HAVE THOSE DATES IDENTIFIED HERE ANYWAY, WE JUST MOVED THINGS UP A WEEK, WOULD THE 12TH AND THE 14TH, THAT TIME PERIOD BE A GOOD TIME FRAME AFTER THE FINALIST SECOND ROUND ON THE 5TH AND 6TH.
>> MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. ONCE WE DO THE INTERVIEW WITH FINALS, THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE DON'T WANT MUCH TIME TO PASS, THAT AND GETTING OUR FINAL DECISION.
WE WE WANT VERY LITTLE [INAUDIBLE]
>> TWO OF US WE'VE DONE YOUR INTERVIEWS.
WE'VE MET THE PUBLIC. FISHER COMPANY.
>> WE DO COME BACK THE NEXT DAY.
>> AND WE DID IT AFTER WE BROUGHT THEM IN.
>> WHEN I SAID THE 7TH, THAT'S FRIDAY, THAT'S THE NEXT DAY.
THAT DOESN'T WORK.? THAT'S PRETTY QUICK.
>> I WILL LEAVE AFTER THAT MEETING ON THE 7TH.
I HAVEN'T BOOKED MY FLIGHT YET.
>> BUT YOU'RE IN NEW YORK THE WEEK OF 3, 04, 5, 6, 7.
>> NO. I'M IN NEW YORK THE WEEKEND, SO FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY.
>> YOU'RE FLYING IN ON THE 6TH?
LATER, I'LL TAKE THAT SATURDAY MORNING FLIGHT.
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IS IS IMPORTANT WORK. IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO DELAY [INAUDIBLE].>> I CAN DO FOUR OR FIVE, BUT I DO WANT TO ASK THIS ONE QUESTION, AND I DON'T TO CONFUSE THE SITUATION.
I CAN SEE THAT ON THE CALENDAR, WE GET TO THE LAST EVENT ON [INAUDIBLE] ENDS ON THE 20TH, BUT THERE MUST BE SOME COMPILING OR SOMETHING THAT YOU DO BETWEEN THE 20TH AND 27TH ON THE CURRENT CALENDAR.
>> [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE IN THE ROOM.
>> BECAUSE THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE, WHY DON'T WE GO ON THE WEEK OF THE 20TH TOWARD THE END OF IT?
>> I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT TREY LAD [PHONETIC] HAS SUGGESTED WHERE WE DO IT WHERE THEY'RE HERE, ESSENTIALLY, VISITING THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY AND WE DECIDE BY THE END OF THAT.
I CAN ACCOMMODATE ANY OF THOSE SCHEDULES.
IT'S JUST I AM SENSITIVE TO THE EARLY BIRD GETS THE WORM.
>> CAN YOU HELP US MAYBE? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL CONNECTING THE DOTS.
YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO THE PAPER SCREENING AND THE REFERENCE CHECKING AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE DONE WITH THAT ON 20TH OF JANUARY.
THEN WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN 20TH OF JANUARY AND THE 27TH ON THIS SCHEDULE?
>> GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE GOT TO WORK WITH THE CANDIDATES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL ENGAGED.
>> BECAUSE THEN, IN A CLOSED SESSION, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE CANDIDATES THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE STILL ENGAGED, SO YOU NEED THAT WEEK TO DO THAT.
THEN IF WE MOVE FEBRUARY 5TH AND 9TH, SO THEY'RE ALL ENGAGED, YOU NEED ENOUGH TIME TO GET THEM SCHEDULED, SO THE 29TH AND 30TH TO SCHEDULE THOSE INTERVIEWS. IS THAT DOABLE?
>> YEAH. YOU CAN LITERALLY TURN AROUND PRETTY FAST.
ONCE YOU MADE A DECISION, YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BACK A FINAL LIST.
THERE'S COUPLE OF DAYS IN BETWEEN.
>> THEN AT THE END OF THE 30TH, YOU'RE GOING TO MEET WITH US IN ANOTHER CLOSED SESSION.
>> JANUARY 30TH. THAT'S FEBRUARY 6TH SINGLE DATE THERE.
THEN INTERVIEW THE FINALIST CANDIDATES IS THE NEXT THING THAT WE HAVE IN QUESTION.
IF YOU GO FROM THE 30TH TO THE 3RD, IS THAT TOO MUCH TIME? [INAUDIBLE] HERE LAST TIME.
>> WELL, DOING VIDEO INTERVIEWS OF THOSE CANDIDATES TAKES TIME BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE RESPONDING.
THEN AFTER THE INTERVIEWS IS WHEN YOU REALLY RANK THEM WITH PRETTY THOROUGH DISCUSSIONS ABOUT EACH ONE OF THEM.
SOMEBODY THOUGHT GOING INTO IT IS UP HERE AND COMING OUT OF IT, THEY'RE DOWN HERE, AND THAT ORDER HAS CHANGED.
THAT'S A ROBUST PROCESS FROM WHAT I RECALL.
>> I'M JUST USING THE DATES THAT THEY HAVE HERE.
WHERE THEY HAVE FEBRUARY 5TH AND 6TH AND FEBRUARY 6TH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JANUARY 29TH AND 30TH AND THE 30TH.
USING THEIR TIMELINE, [INAUDIBLE] ONE WEEK?
>> THEN INTERVIEW FINALIST CANDIDATES, THOSE ARE HERE.
YOU NEED TO GIVE THEM TIME TO FLY IN OR DRIVE IN OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING?
>> IF WE MEET ON THE 30TH, WHICH IS THURSDAY, HOW MUCH TIME DO THEY NEED?
>> THE CANDIDATES SPEND THE ENTIRE DAY.
THE NIGHT BEFORE THEY FLY IN, TAKE THEM OUT TO DINNER, THEIR SPOUSE, SIGNIFICANT OTHER.
THEN THEY GO TOUR, THEY TOUR THE DISTRICT.
THEY GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS SO THEY DON'T CROSS PATHS.
ONE OF THEM STARTS TOUR A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN THE OTHER.
THEN WE BRING ONE CANDIDATE IN.
WE GET TO TALK TO THE ONE CANDIDATE.
THAT CANDIDATE THEN IS FINISHED, THEN THE OTHER ONE HAS JUST FINISHED THE TOUR.
THE LATE CANDIDATE COMES IN, AND WE TALK TO THEM AFTERWARDS.
>> EACH MEETING WITH A NUMBER OF GROUPS PROVIDING FEEDBACK.
>> LAST TIME, YOU HAD FOUR GROUPS, I BELIEVE.
>> THEN STILL STICKING WITH YOUR SCHEDULE, JUST MOVING UP WEEK.
THAT FEBRUARY 12TH COULD BE FEBRUARY 6TH, WHICH IS A THURSDAY.
WE CAN MEET THE 7TH, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE 14TH.
>> THE FEBRUARY 5TH AND 6TH DATE OR WHAT NOW?
>> FEBRUARY TH5 AND 6TH ARE JANUARY 29TH AND 30TH.
THE FEBRUARY 6TH SINGLE IS JANUARY 30TH.
FEBRUARY 12TH HAS NOW BECOME FEBRUARY 6TH.
IT'S FEBRUARY 6TH. THEN FEBRUARY 14TH JUST BECAME FEBRUARY 7TH.
>> WHAT'S THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. STILL GOING THERE?
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>> IT WON'T INVOLVE IOWA OR NEBRASKA, SO IT REALLY WON'T MATTER.
>> ARE WE GOOD? THIS IS WHAT I'VE HEARD, FEBRUARY 5TH AND 6TH BECOMES JANUARY 29TH AND 30TH, FEBRUARY TH6 BECOMES JANUARY 30TH, AND THEN FEBRUARY 12TH BECOMES FEBRUARY 6TH AND FEBRUARY 14TH BECOMES FEBRUARY THE 7TH.
>> THERE'S LOTS OF READING THAT WE'RE DOING THE NIGHT OF THE 6TH IS WHAT I HEARD.
>> KEEP IN MIND, WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THIS, YOU'RE SICK OF THIS BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MANY MEETINGS, AND IT WAS EXHAUSTING BY THE END.
>> YOU'LL SEND US THE REVISED SCHEDULE?
>> YOU'LL SEND OUT THE REVISED SCHEDULE?
>> WE'VE DONE THE TIMELINE. NOW, COME BACK.
LET'S NOW TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STAKEHOLDER SESSIONS AND MEETINGS.
>> DID WE TALK ABOUT WHO WE HAD LAST TIME?
WE HAD CERTIFIED AND THEN CLASSIFIED.
>> CORRECT. AND WE WORKED WITH THE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE MEMBERS THAT WERE PARTICIPATING IN THE CERTIFIED GROUP, AND THEN WE ALSO WORKED WITH THE HR DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY SOME THAT WERE NON-UNIT MEMBERS.
>> STUDENTS, CERTIFIED, CLASSIFIED.
>> THOSE WERE REPRESENTATIVES.
>> STUDENTS, CERTIFIED TEACHERS, CLASSIFIED, AND ADMIN.
THEY PICKED REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE STUDENTS FROM THE CERTIFIED, THE CLASSIFIED, AND THE ADMIN.
THEY PICKED REPRESENTATIVES, SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL 1,000 TEACHERS SHOWING UP.
THE ASSOCIATION PICKED REPRESENTATIVES, SAME THING WITH THE CLASSIFIED AND THE STUDENTS DID THE SAME THING, PICKED FROM WHICH SCHOOLS, AND THOSE SCHOOLS HAD TO PICK REPRESENTATIVES AND THE ADMIN, I THINK, SET A 50 SOME ADMIN.
>> USUALLY, INTERVIEW GROUP SOMEWHERE BETWEEN CANDIDATE 12 IN THAT RANGE.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WAY, EVERYBODY'S ASKING A QUESTION.
WE ASSIGN QUESTIONS SO EVERYBODY'S PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS INSTEAD OF JUST BE THERE LISTENING.
>> THERE WAS A SPLIT BETWEEN UNION AND NON UNION.
>> YES. THEY WANTED IT DONE IN A MANNER THAT REPRESENTED UNION MEMBERSHIP VERSUS TOTAL MEMBERSHIP.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THAT AS WELL.
>> ARE THESE THE ONES THAT ARE INTERVIEWING WHEN WE'RE DOWN TO TWO TO FOUR?
>> WELL, NO. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IN THE PROCESS.
>> THAT PART WAS TO THE DETERMINE THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS TO GIVE OUT THE POSITION PROFILE.
>> THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER OPPORTUNITIES.
>> THIS IS TO DEVELOP THE PROFILE.
>> NOW, WHILE WE'RE AT IT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL INTERVIEW PROCESS.
>> ADMINISTRATORS, CERTIFIED, CLASSIFIED, AND STUDENTS.
>> THEY DEVELOPED THE PROFILE, THEN THEY ALSO [INAUDIBLE]
>> JUST THE FINALIST OF THE FINAL TWO.
>> WE CAN'T DISCLOSE THE OTHERS.
THE OTHERS [INAUDIBLE] DISCLOSED.
>> THEN WE HAD YOU-ALL COME SESSION WHERE THAT PROCESS WAS, WE'D HAVE A CANDIDATE TO TWO CANDIDATES, ONE AT A TIME, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
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WE GIVE THEM 10 MINUTES, SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.AT BEST, WE CAN WITHIN THE TIME FRAME, ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, AND WE DON'T ELIMINATE QUESTIONS THAT WEREN'T FAIR OR ILLEGAL.
BY ILLEGAL, I MEAN WHICH CHURCH DO YOU GO TO, THINGS ALONG THAT LINE THAT ARE [INAUDIBLE].
>> ONLY INTERNALLY ARE WE DEVELOPING THE PROFILE?
>> WE DO A SURVEY INPUT TO HELP US DEVELOP THE PROFILE.
I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT PROFILE.
THEN WE GET DOWN TO NOW WE HAVE, SAY, 2-4, BUT PROBABLY TWO OR THREE.
THEN THEY COME TO TOWN FOR THE FULL DAY.
SEPARATE CYCLES ARE MEETING WITH THE GROUPS IDENTIFIED FOR MEETING WITH GROUPS.
>> THEY'RE MEETING WITH THE GROUPS, BUT ALSO, WE HAVE PUBLIC SESSIONS AVAILABLE FOR THEM AS WELL, SO THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE AS WELL.
>> THERE WAS ONE SESSION, RICHMOND.
IT WAS ALL THE SAME EVENING, CANDIDATES.
I THINK TAYLOR [PHONETIC] YOU WERE.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING I MISSED IN TERMS OF?
IT WAS FORMALLY SET, BUT THEN THERE WAS A QUESTION AND ANSWER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WRITE QUESTIONS DOWN.
IT PICKED UP, YOU WENT THROUGH THE QUESTIONS WITH THE CANDIDATE, THEY ANSWERED THEM.
THAT WAS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE OF IT.
>> IT WAS LIKE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. IT WAS VERY LIKE.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO WE BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THE SIOUX CITY EDUCATION ASSOCIATION NEEDS TO BE IN THAT VISITING PROCESS, THE LAST STAGE VISITING, OR THAT WHEN WE SET IT UP WITH THE CLASSIFIEDS AND WITH THE CERTIFIEDS, THAT THE SIOUX CITY EDUCATION ASSOCIATION IS GOING TO BE SATISFIED THAT THEY HAD THEIR OPPORTUNITY FOR Q&A AND EVERYTHING ELSE?
>> THEY GET A SEPARATE ONE WITH THE CANDIDATES.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO FIND OUT.
THESE FOUR GROUPS GET A SEPARATE SESSION WITH THE FINAL TWO CANDIDATES, THEIR OWN SESSION BEYOND THE PUBLIC.
THEN THE PUBLIC HAS THEIR CHANCE.
>> I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION THAT, THE UNION MEMBERSHIP WOULD BE IN THE CERTIFIEDS AND IN THE CLASSIFIEDS.
BETWEEN THOSE SESSIONS, THERE'S NOT AN EXTRA ONE JUST FOR THE SIOUX CITY EDUCATION ASSOCIATION?
>> THE BUSINESS MANAGERS IN THAT SESSION AND GET ANY CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS, OR IS THAT EVEN AN ISSUE?
>> WELL, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE LEADERSHIP OF THE ASSOCIATION CAN SELECT THEMSELVES OR BE SELECTED TO RESERVE.
>> WE TELL THEM THAT THAT'S OKAY.
>> IF WHAT THEY WANTED IS THEY WANTED TO PUT BUSINESS MANAGER INPUT IN THE DEAL, THEY CAN HANDLE THAT BY SELECTING THEMSELVES INTO ONE OF THOSE TWO GROUPS, CORRECT?
>> THE ONE THAT'S HERE IS CERTIFIED.
>> CERTIFIED GROUP IS TEACHERS.
>> WHAT GROUP WOULD PATTY [PHONETIC] GO TO? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING?
>> NO. I'M ASKING WHAT GROUP WOULD BRENDA GO TO?
>> SHE WOULD GO TO THE CLASSIFIED GROUP LAST TIME.
LISA WAS PART OF THE CERTIFIED GROUP AND THEN BRENDA WAS PART OF THE CLASSIFIED GROUP.
>> THE DISTRICT WORKED WITH BOTH ASSOCIATIONS UNIONS TO DETERMINE WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AND BOTH GROUPS ASKED THAT IT BE PROPORTIONAL, 70% OF THE MEMBERS BELONG TO THE ASSOCIATION AND 70% OF THE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING WERE MEMBERS OF THE UNION SELECTED BY THE UNION, WHETHER IT'S CLASSIFIED OR CERTIFIED.
>> I THINK ALL OF THAT DETAIL SOUNDS GOOD NOW.
AGAIN, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT PROFILE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE DOWN TO ONE OR TWO.
>> WELL, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> I APPRECIATE THE LAST TIME THERE WAS ONE COMMUNITY SESSION THAT WAS LIGHTLY ATTENDED.
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>> THREE COMMUNITY SESSIONS, AND WE WERE SPLIT BETWEEN WEEKS BECAUSE WE HAD TWO IN ONE WEEK, SO I SAID I'M TRAVELING, SO WE HAD ANOTHER ONE THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
>> YOU'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE COMMUNITY INPUT SESSIONS WERE THE ONES THAT WE WILL COME OUT.
THERE'S TWO DAYS WE'VE GOT TO PLAN.
WE MEET WITH THE STAFF, AND THEN WE MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE LIGHT.
THE TWO FINALISTS, WE HAD GOOD ATTENDANCE AT THOSE.
>> WHEN THEY ASKED THE QUESTIONS. SIXTY?
>> I THINK THERE WAS LIKE 60, 70 PEOPLE THERE.
>> BUT THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.
>> MAKE SURE, REMIND ME AGAIN, THOUGH.
WHEN THE FINAL TWO CANDIDATES COME IN TOWN WITH THEIR SIGNIFICANT OTHER, I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD A SESSION WITH THE COMMUNITY, EACH ONE HAD A SESSION WITH THE COMMUNITY.
>> DID THEY HAVE MULTIPLE SESSIONS AT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, OR JUST ONE?
>> WE WERE IN A LIBRARY AT NORTH HIGH.
>> BUT THEY ALSO WENT AROUND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS?
>> THEY VISITED THE SCHOOLS. YOU SET UP A TOUR FOR THEM.
>> DID THEY ALSO GET INTERVIEWED BY STUDENT, CERTIFIED, CLASSIFIED, AND ADMIN DURING THAT TOUR?
>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THEY GOT SPECIFIC INTERVIEWS WITH THOSE FOUR GROUPS AGAIN, INTERNAL GROUPS.
>> THEY HAD SEPARATE INTERVIEWS WITH THOSE FOUR GROUPS.
>> I'LL GET TO THE POINT I WAS LEADING TO.
I REMEMBER WHEN [INAUDIBLE] WAS PICKED, REMEMBER WHEN ALL [INAUDIBLE] MEMBERS WERE PICKED.
I DON'T KNOW IF I WASN'T HERE, BUT FOR SOME REASON, I WASN'T TUNED INTO THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS THE LAST SESSION WE ARRIVED EARLIER.
WHAT I DO REMEMBER ABOUT THOSE TWO SESSIONS IS THAT THERE WAS THIS SENSE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID REACH OUT TO CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WAS ONE OF THEM.
THEY HAD A MEETING OVER IT FOR BOTH OF THOSE SESSIONS.
I WAS AT AROUND THE TABLE MEETING, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN SELECTED QUESTIONS THAT WE WROTE OUT AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US OUT A GREAT DEAL IF WE INCLUDED THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU COULD ADD THEM AS AN INTERVIEW GROUP IF YOU WANTED TO.
>> ALL I WANTED TO GET ACQUAINTED THING, INPUT, I DON'T KNOW IS CREAM OF THAT, IS SO IMPORTANT.
IT'S REALLY WE'RE INTRODUCING PEOPLE AND YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT OPENING THE DOOR FOR ANY DISCUSSION THAT NOW LET'S GO TELL THE BOARD WHO TO PAY.
>> THEY CAN'T ATTEND THE GENERAL COMMUNITY SESSION.
>> I'M JUST SAYING THE IMAGERY OF THAT DIDN'T WORK LAST TIME.
>> BECAUSE THE CHAMBER DIDN'T GET THEIR WAY.
I'LL JUST TELL YOU THE CHAMBER DIDN'T GET THEIR WAY.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PICK THE CHAMBER OVER EAST SIDES RIDGE CLUB? WHO'S MORE IMPORTANT? WHO'S WORTHY OF BEING IN THOSE GROUPS? EVERYBODY SHOULD GET EQUAL PARTICIPATION.
>> THAT WAS A SHADY DISCUSSION AS TO WHICH GROUP, WHO DO YOU SAY YES TO GET A SPECIAL SESSION?
>> WE'RE ALREADY TAKING CARE OF THE UNION, WE'RE TAKING CARE OF BOTH UNIONS AND THEY WOULD BOTH ASK.
>> I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THE CHAMBER, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATE ANY OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION BE ON A PANEL OF INTERVIEWERS BECAUSE WHICH GROUP ARE YOU GOING TO DETERMINE AS WORTHY AND WHICH GROUP ARE YOU GOING TO DETERMINE AS NOT WORTHY?
>> WELL, IF WE GET A LOT OF REQUESTS, THEN THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION UNTIL YOU HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS.
I EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT, WELL, WHO ELSE WOULD I REACH OUT TO IF I WAS GOING TO REACH OUT? I THOUGHT ANOTHER GROUP, IT WOULD BE LIKE A ROTARY GROUP AND OTHERS, AND I THOUGHT, HOW DO WE PRESENT THE IMAGE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY? BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE CONNECTED AS OPPOSED TO CLOSING THE DOORS TO OUR CASTLE AND SAYING, WE'RE JUST MAKING DECISIONS ON THE INSIDE.
>> I THINK YOU'RE STRETCHING YOUR BRIDGE TOO FARTHER, BUDDY.
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>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR, LANCE, WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO CALL THEM SPECIFICALLY WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AT OTHER MEETINGS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
>> BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK LAST TIME.
>> HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE IT WORK?
>> THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY FELT LIKE THEY WERE NOT APPROACHED OVER.
>> IT'S EASY TO PORTRAY THAT AS THEY WERE SITTING BACK IN THEIR DEN AND YOU DIDN'T COME TO SEE US, AND I WAS TOLD IT WAS VERY LIGHTLY ATTENDED BY ANYBODY IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
I TELL YOU THAT I DID NOT EVEN KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED, BUT THAT I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT I WAS PAYING ATTENTION EITHER BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS GOING ON A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN THIS DECISION WAS MADE.
>> BUT I THOUGHT WE HAD A GREAT PROCESS AND THAT THEY HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THREE DIFFERENT MEETINGS AT THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
IT FEELS LIKE A REALLY SLIPPERY SLOPE, BUT A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO WHAT?
WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AND EVERYBODY HAS THE EXACT SAME OPPORTUNITY, SO IT'S EVEN.
IF YOU'RE PART OF THE CHAMBER, IF YOU'RE PART OF THE ROTARY, IF YOU'RE PART OF THE BRIDGE CLUB, WHOEVER YOU'RE A PART OF YOU HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS EVERYBODY ELSE ACROSS THE BOARD.
IF WE SPECIFY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE CHAMBER GETS THEIR DAY AND THE ROTARY GETS THEIR DAY, ETC.
>> I DO SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I UNDERSTAND.
I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU, IT DIDN'T WORK.
JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE UNHAPPY WITH WHAT WE DECIDED AND HOW WE DECIDED, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DIDN'T WORK.
THEY WERE NOT HAPPY WITH THE INTERIM APPROACH.
THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE INTERIM APPROACH FOR A FULL YEAR BEFORE.
THEY DID NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL. THEY WERE VERY VOCAL ABOUT THAT.
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, I PERSONALLY INVITED CHRIS MCGOWAN [PHONETIC], CHRIS, WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THE SEARCH.
I INVITED HIM ON THE NORTH SIDE WHEN WE WERE AT A GRADUATION PARTY.
I INVITED HIM TO THE CHAMBER, CHRIS, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOUR INPUT ON THIS.
>> HE ACTUALLY ATTENDED ON THE FRONT SIDE.
HE ATTENDED ONE OF THOSE SESSIONS.
I THINK IT WAS THE ONE AT NORTH.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE DIRECTIONS.
>> WELL, AND I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT CHRIS MCGOWAN.
>> CHRISTINE [INAUDIBLE] WAS UPSET.
SHE WAS UPSET, AND THEN THE CHAMBER WAS UPSET BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE DECISION THAT WE MADE.
>> NOW, WE'RE SILENT ON THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITY BETTER THAN WE DO.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOME SPECIAL GROUPS INTO THE CHAMBER AND INCLUDE THEM, BUT WE CAN'T JUDGE THAT, ONLY YOU CAN.
THIS IS WHY I'M SITTING SILENT RIGHT NOW.
>> I'M HAPPY WITH US MOVING ON BECAUSE I HEAR YOU SAY, YOU GUYS NEED TO DECIDE AND THAT CAN BE DECIDED IN THE INTERIM BECAUSE I'M CERTAINLY NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ANY SPECIAL ARRANGEMENTS ON THE EARLY PROFILE.
BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE REALLY MAKING IS WE HAD WRITTEN SURVEYS, AND THEN WE HAVE IN PERSON OPPORTUNITIES FROM PURELY INTERNAL PEOPLE, PEOPLE WITH, AS YOU SAY, A STAKEHOLDER.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE IMAGERY OF MAKING THE COMMUNITY A FULL STAKEHOLDER IS GOOD.
I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT THIS THIS NEXT SUPERINTENDENT, AND WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
I HEAR WHAT BOBBY SAYS, I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY, DAN, AS WELL, AND I'M HEARING JAN SAY THE SAME THING, IS AS LONG AS THERE'S A MEETING AT I THINK IT WAS WESTERN IOWA TECH, IS WHAT I WAS TOLD THERE WAS A MEETING.
>> I THINK WE HAD TWO AT THE DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOLS.
>> WE HAD THE SESSIONS AT THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS. [OVERLAPPING]
CHRIS MCGOWAN DID PARTICIPATE AT WEST AND THEN HE DID ATTEND ONE OF THE FINAL TWO SESSIONS AT NORTH.
>> WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, THIS WILL HELP YOU, I THINK.
WHAT WE DID LAST TIME IS WE TOOK THREE DAYS.
NOW WE'RE DOWN TO TWO RENEWED CONTRACTS.
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FOR THE USE OF TIME, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, FOR EXAMPLE, DAY 11, LAN AND I SPLIT, AND WE HAVE A SCRIBE, SOMEONE TO TAKE NOTES FOR US, WE MAKE THIS WORK.FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD GO TO WEST WITH DISTRICT STAFF.
IT CAN BE WEST HIGH SCHOOL OR ANYWHERE ELSE AT 4:00.
AT 6:00, THERE'S AN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SESSION, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, ANYBODY, CHAMBER, ROTARY CLUB, PARENTS, WHOEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE.
AT THE SAME TIME, LAN DOES THE SAME THING.
HE MEETS WITH DISTRICT STAFF AT NORTH AT 4:00, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT 6:00. THAT'S DAY 1.
DAY 2, WE DO EAST HIGH SCHOOL.
I WOULD DO 4:00 PM DISTRICT STAFF OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, 1, 02, THIRD OPTION FOR OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
IF YOU WANT IT, IF YOU CAN HAVE BLAINE DOING A VIRTUAL.
>> WITH TECH HELP, SO WE DO IT VIRTUAL.
DISTRICT STAFF AT 4:00, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AT 6:00.
IF WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 03,4 OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OPTIONS FOR ANYBODY AS PUBLIC.
IT CAN BE PARENTS, IT CAN BE STUDENTS, IT CAN BE CHAMBER, IT CAN BE ANYBODY YOU WANT TO INVITE.
YOU CAN SAY CHAMBER, WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES? I WISH YOU WOULD ATTEND THIS, AND WHATEVER GROUP YOU WANT TO LIST,
>> LESLIE, DID WE SEND OUT A SPECIFIC INVITATION TO THE CHAMBER AND THOSE THINGS TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE OPEN FORMS AT ANY OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS?
>> DAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE SPECIFICALLY EMAILED THEM DIRECTLY, BUT WE PROMOTED THIS EVERYWHERE THROUGH THE LOCAL MEDIA AS WELL.
>> THE MEDIA CAME TO OUR VERY FIRST ONE AND WE ANNOUNCED THAT WE'RE HAVING ENSUING ONES, AND I THINK WE HAD AT LEAST TWO TELEVISION STATIONS.
>> BUT WE HAD TO GRAB LESLIE AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE, AND JANICE TO GET A DOZEN, AND WE HAD THE MEDIA.
>> WELL, WHAT YOU HAVEN'T ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR, IS THIS BINDING ANY GROUP TO FOUR OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE, BUT SO FAR YOU HAVEN'T SAID YOU WANTED A SEPARATE GROUP, WHETHER IT'S THE CHAMBER OR ANY OTHER GROUP TO BE.
>> EXCUSE MY CANDOR, BUT THERE'S A COMMUNITY GROUP.
WE DO THREE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY SITES IN EACH SIDE OF TOWN THAT WORKS FOR LOGISTICS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE DISTRICTS, AND EVERYONE IS INVITED TO THAT PARTY.
THERE'S A FORMAL INVITATION THAT IS DONE THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM THAT GOES OUT.
IF YOU MISSED YOUR INVITATION, YOU DON'T COME, BUT EVERYONE IS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY FORUMS. DONE. IN MY OPINION, WE'VE SPENT TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A PLAN TO INCLUDE EVERYONE.
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED OUR GROUPS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST THAT ARE VITAL TO HELPING US TAKE OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND HEAR THAT.
WE HAVE THREE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY PEOPLE TO BE ENGAGED.
IF YOU MISSED THE ONE AT NORTH, YOU COULD DRIVE TO EAST OR WEST.
>> YOU CAN DO A VIRTUAL ONE IF YOU WANT.
>> YOU CAN ALSO, IN THE ENTRY PLAN OF YOUR CANDIDATE, GET HIM INVOLVED.
THEY NEED TO BE GOING TO ALL THOSE SCHOOLS.
>> WHATEVER THEY DO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TIME, WHATEVER THEY DO WITH THEIR FIRST THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS, WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE? ARE WE OKAY?
>> WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO MOVE AHEAD, AND THAT'S FINE.
I'M SITTING HERE THINKING, WHY IS IT SO HARD THIS TIME WHEN IT WASN'T SO HARD TWO TIMES BEFORE, BUT WE'RE DONE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR HERE BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO MOVE AHEAD.
I AGREE WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND WITH DAN AND BOBBY AND JAN ON THAT, SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT ITEM.
[01:05:01]
WHAT WE'VE ALSO LISTED AND THE NEXT ITEM IS WHAT A JOB POSTING ON OUR WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE DO USE AN ADVERTISEMENT.NOW, WHAT I DID IS I SIMPLY TOOK LAST YEAR'S.
THIS IS LAST YEAR'S, WITH ONE EXCEPTION.
ABOUT THE SIOUX CITY COMMUNITY SCHOOL DISTRICT, LESLIE HAS ALREADY UPDATED THAT.
BUT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SIOUX CITY SUPERINTENDENT WHO POSSESSES, THOSE WERE THE PROFILES FROM THE LAST SEARCH.
JUST SO YOU SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. IT'S NOT A NEW ONE.
AT THE END, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT REQUIREMENTS AND WHERE YOU APPLY AND ALL THAT STUFF, AS WELL AS SALARY, THAT'S ALL FROM 2022.
JUST SO YOU KNOW AND LESLIE HAS ALREADY PROVIDED THAT INPUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT, YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN.
I WOULD LEAVE IT TO LESLIE MYSELF.
>> WE MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, YOU APPLY IT TO GR RECRUITING, [OVERLAPPING] YOU DON'T REALLY APPLY TO SIOUX CITY.
>> IT'S ALSO BETTER SERVED PARTICULARLY TO FIND THAT YOU DON'T ATTEND ANY OF THE SESSIONS WE'RE IN BECAUSE THEY'LL BE LOOKING TO YOU, NOT TO US AND YOU'LL BE INVITED TO ENGAGE.
IF I WERE A WOMAN WHERE I COULDN'T RESIST.
>> WE ARE UNINVITED TO THOSE PARTIES?
>> YEAH, I AGREE THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'D RATHER YOU DIDN'T COME IN. WE DON'T THINK THAT WORKS.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU.
>> WE DID. THERE'S SOME BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN AND WE ACTUALLY MADE IT VIRTUAL SO THEY COULD OBSERVE IT.
THEY COULD OBSERVE. NOW, MY FINAL QUESTION, DO YOU ALSO WANT A VIRTUAL SESSION?
MY EXPERIENCE WITH VIRTUAL MEETINGS IS THAT THEY'RE AWKWARD AT BEST.
IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO PARTICIPATE IN THEM, YOU'LL HAVE QUITE A HARD TIME FINDING A BIG-ENOUGH TOOL TO HANDLE ALL THE QUESTIONS.
THESE ARE THE PUBLIC SESSIONS?
>> WE HAVEN'T HAD GOOD SUCCESS WITH VIRTUAL.
>>THREE SESSIONS IS OPEN TO EVERYBODY.
I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST AT SOME POINT IS MAYBE WE PICK ONE AND WE SEND IT TO CHAMBERS.
SAY THIS IS A GOOD ONE FOR YOU TO GO TO AND THEN THAT HIGHLIGHTS TO THEM THAT THEY WOULD SHOW UP RATHER THAN FEEL LIKE THEY WOULD.
>> CAN WE GET IT DONE? BUT I AGREE THAT VIRTUAL, IT'S HARD ON THE CANDIDATE.
>> I ASK THEN WE THROW THAT OUT THERE JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST IN THAT BECAUSE I KNOW SOME.
>> NO, WE DIDN'T DO IT LAST TIME.
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
>> I WOULD PREFER THAT WE HAVE VIRTUAL FOR PEOPLE TO WATCH BUT NOT PARTICIPATE IN.
>> YOU MEAN WATCH THE SESSION?
>> YES, WATCH THE SESSION. [BACKGROUND]
>> WE DID IT LAST TIME. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU GO TO WHAT'S IT CALLED?
>> YOU COULD LISTEN TO IT, RIGHT?
>> YOU SAID LESLIE'S GOT THIS EVERYTHING UP TO REQUIREMENTS.
SHE'S UPDATED AND I GUESS SPEAK NOW OR KEEP YOUR PEACE OR SPEAK LATER.
REQUIREMENTS, ALL OF IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD UNTIL WE TALK ABOUT SALARY RANGE?
>> YEAH, YOU'LL HAVE TO SET SALARY LATER AND ALSO CHANGE IN THE MIDDLE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE PROFILE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE. THIS IS FROM THE LAST ONE.
>> WE HAVEN'T DONE THE SURVEY YET.
>> ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER TONIGHT, OR NOT?
>> IS NOW THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT SO IT'S AROUND THIS OR IS THAT LATER?
>> LET'S GET A FEW MORE OF THESE.
>> JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, YOU CAN SEE THE SURVEY WE USED.
K-12 IS THE SAME COMPANY THAT DOES YOUR?
>> CLIMATE SURVEY. IN FACT, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERLAP.
I'VE READ ONLY ONE LITTLE DIFFICULTY ON THE TIMELINE AND I'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU IN A MINUTE.
THAT ESSENTIALLY IS, WE HAD TO UPDATE THE SURVEY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN CHANGED.
I WORKED WITH THE DISTRICT TODAY AND WE GOT THAT UPDATE UNDERWAY.
IT MAY CAUSE US TO HAVE THREE LANGUAGES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT TWO OR THREE DAYS ON IN ORDER TO GET THAT OUT THERE. WE TRY TO TIME IT.
WE TRY TO TIME IT SO THAT WE GET THAT OUT AHEAD.
THEY AREN'T COMING OUT THE SAME DAY.
PARENTS, STAFF, DO A SURVEY ON THE SAME DAY ON TWO DIFFERENT TOPICS FOR TWO WEEKS. [OVERLAPPING]
[01:10:04]
>> SURVEY FOR T, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SURVEY CONFUSION.
>> ALSO, THE K-12, IS THAT THE SAME ONE WHERE THE RESULTS WE SAW,
[X.D. Resolution to Consider Continued Participation in the Instructional Support Program and to Schedule a Public Hearing – Patty Blankenship]
THEY WOULD ONLY COUNT THE FIRST.YOU HAD A, B, C, D, E, AND IF YOU ANSWERED A, IT WAS POSITIVE AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS NO IN SPITE OF WHAT IT REPRESENTED? THAT'S WHY WE GOT NUMBERS LIKE 10%, 15% SATISFACTORY FEELING THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND ALL THOSE. IS THAT THE SAME?
>> IT'S OUR DISTRICT CLIMATE SURVEY.
>> THAT'S THE CLIMATE SURVEY. THAT'S A DIFFERENT ONE.
[OVERLAPPING] THIS ONE WE HAD TO TELL THEM.
>> NO, I'M SAYING WHY ARE WE USING THEM TO TELL THE CANDIDATE THAT ONLY 15% OF OUR STUDENTS FEEL SAFE AT SCHOOL?
>> WE DON'T USE THE CLIMATE SURVEY FOR OUR CANDIDATES. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE USE THIS SURVEY. IT'S THE SAME COMPANY.
>> LESLIE, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW COMMUNICATION TOOL THAT TRANSLATES INTO 60 LANGUAGES, OR 100 LANGUAGES OR SOMETHING.
ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THIS SURVEY OUT USING THAT TOOL?
>> WE CAN'T PROMOTE IT OUT USING THAT TOOL.
[BACKGROUND] THERE'LL BE A LINK.
>> BUT THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO TAKE IT IN ENGLISH?
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO. WE WORK WITH K-12 TO TRANSLATE THIS INTO OUR SIX PRIMARY LANGUAGES, SO IT'S NOT EVERY LANGUAGE.
WE DID IT TO GET THE LAST THREE IN.
>> BOTH SURVEYS ARE THE SAME LANGUAGES.
THERE'S THREE OF THEM THAT WE HAVE TO UPDATE.
>> WE HAD IT BEFORE, IN THE OLD SURVEY, BUT THEY'VE CHANGED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
WE WORKED WITH THEM TODAY, SO THEY'RE WORKING ON IT NOW, SO HOPEFULLY, WE GET A GOOD TURNAROUND.
>> IN A FEW BOOKS. IT WAS A PRETTY SMALL CHANGE TO TRANSLATE WHAT WE DID SO IT WAS LESS THAN $1,000.
>> THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
THREE LANGUAGES WE HAVE TO CHANGE.
IT WAS IN THE DISTRICT SO WE'VE GOT IT TAKEN CARE OF.
>> BECAUSE OF THE TIME ISSUE WE HAVE THE SOFTWARE TO CHANGE IT OURSELVES.
>> I AGREE. CAN YOU CHANGE THIS SURVEY?
>> YEAH? [OVERLAPPING] I MISUNDERSTOOD.
>> NO, YOU CAN'T, UNFORTUNATELY.
>> JUST TRANSLATE IT INTO A COUPLE MORE LANGUAGES, YOU SAID NO BUT WE HAVE TO MOVE ON BUT I FOUND THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
>> WE CAN. WE CAN CONTACT THE K-12 AND WE CAN PAY THAT MORE TO TRANSLATE TO MORE LANGUAGES, BUT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR EACH LANGUAGE.
>> NEXT THING IS WE TALKED ABOUT THE GROUPS WHO WILL BE INVOLVED IN SECOND ROUND INTERVIEWS.
>> THIS IS THE SURVEY THAT'S GETTING TRANSLATED AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE OTHER ONE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> JUST SO YOU KNOW, DICK AND I FIGHT OVER WHO GETS TO WORK WITH THE STUDENTS.
>> IT WILL HAPPEN PRETTY QUICKLY IS WHAT I KNOW.
>> I ALWAYS LOSE FOR SOME REASON.
IF THE SURVEY GOES OUT ON THE 9TH. [BACKGROUND]
>> THERE ARE THREE LANGUAGES WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL DAYS TO HAVE AVAILABLE BUT WE'LL START AT THE 9TH.
WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IT OVERRUNNING [OVERLAPPING] THE CLIMATE SURVEY.
>> THE CLIMATE SURVEY STARTS ON THE 14TH.
>> THIS IS ONE IS WELL UNDERWAY. [BACKGROUND]
>> THE CLIMATE SURVEY IS [INAUDIBLE]
>> THERE'S NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SURVEY.
>> THERE'S NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
>> LANCE, WE CAN, WE DID THAT LAST YEAR.
WE POSTPONED IT THREE OR FOUR TIMES LAST YEAR, AND WE FELT LIKE GIVING IT NOW, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR, IS PROBABLY THE IDEAL TIME AND THEN WE CAN PROMOTE IT DURING PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCES AS WELL.
WE CAN PROMOTE BOTH SURVEYS DURING THAT SAME TIME PERIOD.
[BACKGROUND] THE REASON FOR THE TIME FRAME THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS TO ALIGN IT WITH CONFERENCES AND JORIAH SAID PARTICIPATION FOR THAT.
>> IT'S A TIME WHEN WE GET THE BEST ANSWERS.
>> THE BEST WITH THAT. I THINK IF YOU WAIT TOO FAR INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR,
[01:15:04]
TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET A LITTLE JADED THE FURTHER ALONG WE GET, THE CLOSER WE GET TO THE END OF THIS FIRST SEMESTER TOO.WE JUST FELT LIKE THIS WAS PROBABLY THE BEST TIME.
WE WANTED TO DO IT THE SAME TIME FOR LAST YEAR AND WE HAD A FEW THINGS COME UP AND SO WE HAD TO KEEP PUSHING IT BACK AND ULTIMATELY, WE DIDN'T GET IT OUT UNTIL JANUARY AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BEST TIME.
>> THEN DURING THE PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCE IS WHEN PARENTS ARE MOST ENGAGED AND THAT'S WHEN [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY ARE, SO WE CAN PROBABLY HAVE A FIRE ALREADY READY THAT WE'RE READY TO SEND OUR SCHOOLS THAT HAS BOTH SURVEYS ON IT [INAUDIBLE]. [BACKGROUND]
>> I HAVE TO SAY, THEY DID A GREAT JOB BEATING THE BUSHES TO GET TO GREENER PASTURES.
>> THE TURNOUT WILL BE OVERLAP, IT WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE LOWER, BUT THAT'S FINE, WE'RE MAKING OUR BEST EFFORT.
>> THE FOCUS WAS FIRST. [BACKGROUND]
>> YEAH. ANYTHING WITH ADVERTISEMENTS?
>> THE CONTACTS ARE, I ASSUME THE BOARD PRESIDENT, SEANICE LESLIE.
>> I'M SURE JAN WILL GO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M ON EVERY COMMITTEE NOW.
>> WELL, HE ALREADY HAS EXPERIENCE BEING THE CONTACT PERSON.
YOU'VE SEEN THE DESCRIPTION THAT WE'LL PUBLISH WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
WE'VE EXPLAINED WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
THE ADVERTISEMENTS, WHICH IS ONE OF YOUR EXPENSES IS FOR.
THE MATERIALS ARE IN THERE DUE TO THE ADVERTISEMENTS WE WOULD NORMALLY MAKE.
>> JACOB, THAT'S ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT FIRST SET OF PRICES IS FOR.
>> ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION.
>> AMERICAN ADMINISTRATORS SCHOOL ASSOCIATION?
>> ASSOCIATION, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
>> IT'S A PARENT, THE NATIONAL ONE OF SA.
>> YEAH. ED WEEK AND ITS WEBSITE.
ED WEEK IS THE NEWSPAPER MOST EDUCATORS GET.
YOU SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? WE HAVE TWO GROUPS: NABSE AND ALAS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, ALAS IS THE LATINO ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION AND NABSE IS THE BLACK EDUCATORS ASSOCIATION ADMINISTRATORS GROUP.
GR RECRUITING, OF COURSE, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AND ARE FREE OBVIOUSLY.
IOWA WORKS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR DISTRICT CHURNS THINGS INTO USED TO BE. WHAT DID IT USE TO BE?
TEACH IOWA IS STILL THERE NOW.
THEY'VE BEEN REACTIVATED SO YOU MAY WANT TO DO BOTH.
AT FIRST, THEY MERGED THEM AND NOW THEY'VE STARTED THEM BOTH UP.
>> TEACH IOWA IS ONE WE HAVE THERE.
>> BUT THE DISTRICT HAS TO DO THAT WORK.
>> YOU'VE DONE THAT NOW PROBABLY THROUGH YOUR OTHER OPENINGS.
>> THE ADMINISTRATORS AND BOARD ASSOCIATIONS IN IOWA, THEY DON'T DO IT.
>> WHAT'S THE SUCCESS RATE ON ALL OF THESE FOR GETTING APPLICANTS? DO YOU KNOW?
>> WHAT I WOULD SAY, IF I WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN PER ADVERTISEMENT, WHAT I WOULD LIST IT AS AASA AND ED WEEK ARE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE BROADLY.
THEN WHEN IT COMES TO NABSE AND ALAS, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES AT THEIR ACTUAL ANNUAL MEETINGS, FOR EXAMPLE.
WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT ON OUR WEBSITE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT WITH MY EXPERIENCE OF RECRUITMENT, THERE'S ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH THOSE AGENCIES.
WE'RE NOT JUST ADVERTISING TO CHECK A BOX TO SAY THAT WE REACHED THAT DEMOGRAPHIC.
>> EXACTLY. WE'RE INVOLVED WITH THEM.
WHEN WE CHECK THE BOX, IT'S TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE. NO.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF, AND I TRUST THESE GENTLEMEN CAN HANDLE IT. [LAUGHTER]
>> WHAT WE WILL END UP DOING IS WE WILL GET ON THE PHONE AND CALL ALL OUR CONTACTS.
>> I THINK THE QUESTION, TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT EARL WAS ASKING,
[01:20:02]
DO WE ASK THE CANDIDATE WHERE DID THEY FIND THE APPLICATION?I THINK FOR SOME IT WOULD BE HARD TO SAY IT WAS THIS GROUP VERSUS THIS GROUP VERSUS THIS GROUP USING THE COMBINATION THEREOF.
[OVERLAPPING] WE TRIED TO TRACK IT BEFORE.
EARL, I CAN'T TELL YOU ON YOUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR IT.
BUT THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, I BELIEVE.
>> WELL, THAT IS PART OF MY QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE TIMELINES OF SIX WEEKS OR 30 DAYS, AND I THINK OF, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE CALENDAR AGAIN.
I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT NINE WEEKS FROM THE TIME YOU HAD THE PROFILE DONE UNTIL YOU CLOSE THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
>> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF IT'S NINE WEEKS.
DO WE DO ADVERTISING FOR THREE MONTHS WORTH IF IT'S A 30-DAY THING AND [OVERLAPPING] DO WE HAVE TO WAIT IN TWO WEEKS?
>> YES, WE DO. WE'LL WORK WITH OUR PEOPLE THAT DO THE ADS AND THEY WILL TIME IT AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME, JUDGING ON THE PRIOR EXPERIENCE.
I CAN TELL BY YOUR FACIAL EXPRESSION YOU'RE NOT BUYING THAT ONE.
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I TRUST THEM IF WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE APPLICANTS CAME FROM.
HOW DO YOU TIME IT IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IT GAVE YOU A RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT? IT'S EITHER YOU DO IT OR YOU DON'T DO IT, IS WHAT I'M HEARING.
THESE DOLLARS ARE NOTHING AND I WOULD WANT TO ADVERTISE FOR THE ENTIRE NINE WEEKS ON ALL OF THESE IF NOBODY HAS AN OBJECTION TO THAT.
[X.E. MOU with Family Access Center – Angela Bemus]
WE'RE TALKING 200 BUCKS FOR SIX WEEKS; 400 BUCKS FOR NINE WEEKS IS?>> I THINK AS SOON AS WE GET OUR PROFILE OUT THERE.
>> YEAH, WE'LL GET IT OUT THERE.
>> WE CAN ADVERTISE THE FIRST DAY UNTIL THE LAST DAY.
>> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BOARD CUT OUT OF YOUR PAY.
>> EXACTLY. I'LL DO IT. I'LL TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM.
>> YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
>> I ONLY TOOK ONE WATER TODAY.
>> WE'RE ADVERTISING [INAUDIBLE]. I THINK THAT'S THE MESSAGE.
>> YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO ADJUST THE LITERATURE OF THIS.
[X.F. MOU with Rosecrance Jackson Centers – Angela Bemus]
>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO ADDRESS, FINAL THING, IS WHEN WE ADVERTISE, WE GENERALLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU ADVERTISE A SALARY, AND THE WAY WE DEAL WITH THAT GENERALLY IS WE HAVE A SECTION IN THE ADVERTISEMENT THAT SAYS THE SALARY WILL BE IN THE RANGE OF BLANK PLUS AN EXCELLENT FRINGE BENEFIT PACKAGE.
THE FINAL SALARY FOR THE SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE WILL BE NEGOTIATED AND DETERMINED BASED UPON IMPROVEMENT EXPERIENCE AND MEETING BOARD CRITERIA.
THEY LIKE TO SEE WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE BALLPARK OR NOT.
[X.G. Seidlitz Education – Dr. Mandi Bradford]
YOU'RE OFFERING A SALARY THAT'S COMPETITIVE OR EXCEEDS WHERE THEY ARE.CURRENTLY, WE'LL WORK WITH TIME.
LAST TIME, WE WOUND UP WITH A RANGE.
IT WAS WHAT, 250-260, I THINK WITHIN THE ADVERTISEMENT.
BUT THAT WAS FOR 2022/23 AND EVEN THIS SALARY DATA IS FOR?
[X.H. Visual Edge IT / eGoldFax – Chad Fengel]
>> LAST YEAR, '23/24, SO CONSIDER YOU'VE GOT THIS YEAR, AND THEN THE PERSON DOESN'T START UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
DO YOU KNOW WHY IOWA CITY HAD SUCH A HIGH OR A DRAMATICALLY GREATER AMOUNT OF BENEFIT COST?
>> SURE. TYPICALLY, HERE'S WHAT.
THE BENEFITS THAT ARE TYPICALLY INCLUDED IN THE BENEFITS NUMBER INCLUDE SOME DISTRICTS HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION BEYOND IPERS.
IPERS IS 9.4% OF THE SALARY AT A CAP OF 250.
[X.I. School Safety Improvement Grant – Tim Paul]
A LOT OF DISTRICTS, INCLUDING SIOUX CITY IN THE PAST, OFFERED $35,000-40,000 A YEAR OF SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION IN ADDITION TO THE IPERS.MOST OF EVERYBODY IS SINGLE-PERSON INSURANCE RIGHT NOW.
THEY DON'T DO FAMILIES. WE USED TO DO FAMILIES, WE WENT TO SINGLE PERSON.
SOME DISTRICTS WILL OFFER 10 OR 12, $6,000 FOR PROFESSIONAL DUES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU CAN JOIN.
THEY'LL ALSO OFFER A TRANSPORTATION STIPEND OF $500 A MONTH OR $600 A MONTH SO THAT YOU DON'T TURN ANY EXPENSE REPORTS IN AS YOU'RE TRAVELING TO DES MOINES AND AROUND TO YOUR DISTRICT, SO THEY OFFER THAT.
THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE COMPONENTS, SO MY SUGGESTION OR ANTICIPATION.
I'VE LOOKED AT ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS THREE YEARS AGO,
[01:25:03]
AND SOME OF THEM OFFER REALLY SWEET SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT MONEY, SO THAT'S LIKELY WHAT THAT IS.A LOWER SALARY BUT THEN THEY OFFER A HUGE SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT.
IT'S BASICALLY A TAX-FREE CONTRIBUTION AND THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THEM DO.
MY EXPERIENCE IS, LOOKING AT EVERY ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS, I PULLED EVERY ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS THREE YEARS AGO, EVERYBODY OFFERS A SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT.
WE DIDN'T DO IT WITH ROD WHEN WE DID HIS CONTRACT BECAUSE HE WAS ALREADY RETIRED, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE NEGOTIATION ITEMS. BUT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT OFFERS A SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION IN ADDITION TO A TRANSPORTATION OR STIPEND AND A PROFESSIONAL DUES ORGANIZATION.
>> IT WASN'T THERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT WASN'T IN PLACE WHEN I WAS THERE.
>> WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE TOTAL OF EVERYTHING.
>> JUST A SALARY, NOT THE TOTAL.
>> JUST THE SALARY BUT WE STILL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, IN MY OPINION, IS SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT, PROFESSIONAL DUES ORGANIZATION, AND SOME SORT OF TRANSPORTATION INCITEMENT ON TOP OF THE SALARY.
THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST TO ME. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE GOT LUCKY. I'LL JUMP INTO THIS SINCE LIKE I SAID, I DID THIS THREE YEARS AGO WITH EVERY SINGLE CONTRACT I READ.
IN MY VIEW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ANALYSIS OF WHERE EVERYBODY IS AT RIGHT NOW.
WE WANT TO ATTRACT A TOP CANDIDATE.
MY TUMMY TELLS ME WE NEED TO HAVE A SALARY OF 270-290.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE DISTRICTS, WHAT THEIR SALARIES ARE.
>> IS THAT ABOUT 50,000 MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW?
[X.J. Contracts for Board Approval – Jim Vanderloo/ Jarod Mozer]
>> PARDON ME? [OVERLAPPING] NO, ROGER, 250-SOMETHING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, THAT WAS LAST YEAR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE'S A 2.5% SO WE TAKE 1.025 TIMES THAT 255, AND THAT WOULD BE A SALARY.
>> A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT WOULD BE?
>> IT WAS BUILT IN A 2.5% AUTOMATIC INCREASE
[X.K. First Reading of Board Policies – Dr. Rod Earleywine]
SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO ENGAGE INTO DETAILED DISCUSSION.THE 2.5 WE FELT WAS GOING TO BE AN SSA NUMBER OVER THAT TIME.
>> THERE'S SOME NEGOTIATION AFTER WE PUT THIS RANGE? WHAT WE NEED TO ARRANGE IS THE PAY ON THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT START WITH THE THREE ON THE TOP.
>> LOOK, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HIGHER IS BETTER.
>> DOES IT NEED TO BE WITHIN 20? IS THAT WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN RANGE?
>> WE USUALLY SAY ONE NUMBER WORKS FINE.
WE DID A RANGE LAST TIME, IT WORKED.
>> THERE WOULD BE TWO PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE AT 280 OR ABOVE AT BASE SALARY, AND THAT WOULD BE WAUKEE AND DES MOINES.
YOU HAVE LINN-MAR, WHICH IS A RICH DISTRICT, IT'S 270.
>> CEDAR RAPIDS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE REASON WHY I'M SUGGESTING THAT IF WE DO A RANGE, IF WE AT LEAST HAVE A THREE IN THE TOP NUMBER IS WE'RE THROWING A WIDE NET AND THAT'S BEYOND THE STATE OF IOWA.
WE MAY COME BACK TO FINDING THAT CANDIDATES OUT OF THE STATE OF IOWA APPEAL TO US, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT SOMEONE IN LET'S SAY DALLAS, FOR EXAMPLE, NOT APPLY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE IT THROUGH.
>> I SUPPORT THAT. IF YOU SAID 280-300 I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
>> WELL, ROD'S SALARY, I THINK NEXT YEAR IF HE WAS STAYING, WOULD BE 265 IN A ROUND NUMBER, WITH THE 2.5 THIS YEAR AND 2.5 NEXT YEAR.
>> I THINK WE GOT HIM IN A BARGAIN THOUGH BECAUSE THERE WAS [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, SERGEI BLUFF IS NOT ONE OF THE TOP 30, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS MAKING BEFORE ANYWAY AND IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
[BACKGROUND] BUT I THINK 270-310.
>> IS THAT TOO WIDE, GUYS? BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WANTED TO.
>> HOW ABOUT ONE NUMBER? HOW ABOUT WE JUST PUT IT IN 295 AND GO FROM THERE?
>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK HAVE THREE IN FRONT OF ONE OF THE NUMBERS.
I THINK IF WE LOCK IT DOWN BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A TON OF EXPERIENCE.
I DON'T WANT TO PAY THEM 310, SO I DON'T WANT TO GO WITH ONE NUMBER.
IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S MAKING 300, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A LATERAL NOTE FOR 301. WHY?
>> I DISAGREE. I'M SUPPORTING HIM.
[01:30:02]
I WOULD GO WITH A HIGHER 280-310.>> I HAVE COMMUNITY HEARTBURN OVER THAT ONE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS WHERE WE EARN OUR MONEY.
>> WHAT ARE YOU THINKING EARL?
>> TWO-SEVENTY WOULD BE MORE THAN WHAT ROD WOULD MAKE NEXT YEAR BY A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAID 270 BECAUSE IT WAS A ROUND NUMBER.
>> I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE HIGHER NUMBER JUST BECAUSE BASED, I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE US.
IF WE WANT TO ENTICE SOMEONE, LET'S SAY WE GET OUR GREAT CANDIDATES FROM OUT OF STATE, LIKE WHERE YOU'RE AT, I THINK WE NEED THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE 310 OR WHATEVER YOU WANT THAT NUMBER TO BE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO PAY.
NOBODY'S GOING TO GO DOWN THE SALARY TO COME HERE.
>> IT'S TOO HARD OF A JOB WITHOUT THE SALARY.
>> YOUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THAT CANDIDATE CAN COME IN YOUR NON-QUALIFIED RETIREMENT.
>> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I FORGOT IS RELOCATION.
IF SOMEBODY RELOCATES, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A RELOCATION STIPEND AND IT'S TYPICALLY A FIXED AMOUNT.
IT'S WE'LL PAY YOU 35,000-40,000 FOR RELOCATION.
>> WASN'T THAT 15 THAT WE THREW IN THERE WHEN WE DID THIS LAST TIME?
>> WE DIDN'T HAVE A RELOCATION.
WE SAID WE WOULD DO A FIXED RELOCATION AMOUNT BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY.
[OVERLAPPING] ROD DIDN'T RELOCATE.
>> WELL, HE HAS THREE TIMES IN A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.
[LAUGHTER] LOOK, I'M NOT GOING TO BE WITH THE 270-310S, I'LL GO THROUGH 280S.
>> LET'S TAKE A POLL. WHO WANTS IT TO BE AT 270?
>> WE'RE NOT PASSING ANYTHING.
>> I'VE HEARD WE'RE NOT VOTING, BUT HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL?
>> YOUR FEELINGS ARE POSITIVELY 270. IT'S A FEELING.
>> I LIKE 275 BUT I WOULD 280.
I'M POSITIVELY FEELING 280-300.
>> TWO SEVENTY-FIVE TO THREE-TEN.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM 310.
>> TWO SEVENTY-FIVE TO THREE-TEN, GOOD.
>> IF WE HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER AND THEY'RE MAKING 200 TODAY, [OVERLAPPING] 270 WOULD MAKE THEM REALLY HAPPY.
>> TWO SEVENTY-FIVE TO THREE-TEN.
>> ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF WE'VE GOT A SHOT AT MAYBE SOMEBODY OUT OF ST. LOUIS OR SOMEBODY OUT OF KANSAS CITY, OR MINNEAPOLIS, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHICAGO BECAUSE THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY IN CHICAGO, OR CINCINNATI OR SOMEPLACE LIKE THAT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A THREE IN THE FRONT.
>> THROUGH SOMEBODY FROM IOWA.
>> UNTIL THEY FIGURE OUT THEIR STANDARD OF LIVING.
>> THREE-TEN IS A LOT MORE MONEY HERE THAN IT IS IN. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MONEY, SO 275-310 IS GOOD.
>> YOU WORK AT A BAR, SO YOU DO.
>> YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT CASH IF IT'S MONEY LAUNDERING.
>> I ALREADY SAID 270, I CAN GO WITH 275 WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO STOP.
IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE NEED TO GO THERE [OVERLAPPING] UNLESS THERE'S A CANDIDATE THAT IS GOING TO TAKE US THERE.
>> RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] WE MANAGE THE EXPECTATION.
>> THAT'S THEIR SALARY. THAT'S NOT EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OFFER RELOCATION IF THEY RELOCATE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OFFER THEM LIKELY A SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT CONFIRMATION BUT WE'LL ONLY GET HYPERS UP TO 250.
>> WE'RE TALKING CLOSER TOGETHER AND ON TOP OF THAT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> OUR NUMBER LAST YEAR SAID 38 BUT I SEE SOME THAT GO TO 100 SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 38-100.
>> THEY'RE NOT CHEAP AND THEIR SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT AND THEN THE PROFESSIONAL DUES AND SOME TRANSPORTATION STIPEND.
>> I DO A LOT OF END-YEAR BONUSES.
THAT'S WHAT THE SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION IS FOR.
>> FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, WHEN I HIRED A HUSBAND IN THE CITY, IN A LOT OF CASES, THE CITY MANAGER, OR THE SUPERINTENDENT AT THE TIME COULD OPT OUT OF THAT CASE AND TAKE THAT AS THE TSA OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY TAKE.
I'M QUITE SURE THE CALL AT THE TIME WAS NOT IT WOULD MAYBE CHANGE, SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU GUYS SHOULD LOOK AT ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN [OVERLAPPING]
>> EVEN FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT?
>> WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME BOAT.
>> THEY WANT THE PHONES. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I HEARD 275-310, IS THAT CORRECT?
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>> THAT'S A CONSENSUS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> LET ME ASK YOU GUYS, IS THAT A RANGE THAT YOU BELIEVE WILL TRACK IN? [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT RANGE?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT ON YOUR LIST.
I THINK WE SKIPPED OVER ITEM NUMBER 8.
>> IN TERMS OF IOWA LICENSURE.
>> YOU CAN'T BE A SUPERINTENDENT WITHOUT ONE.
>> NO, YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO GET A LICENSE.
>> BUT IT'S A CONTRACT TO A FINAL LIST THAT WOULD NEED TO OBTAIN LICENSURE.
>> I ASSUME WE ARE, RIGHT? WE WANT TO HAVE A LICENSE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU CAN'T BY LAW, YOU CANNOT BE A SUPERINTENDENT WITHOUT AN IOWA LICENSE.
>> WHEN WE DO, EARL, WE WOULD SAY TO A CANDIDATE, PARTICULARLY OUT OF STATE, CHECK ON YOUR LICENSURE.
>> SEE WHAT YOU NEED OR IF YOU QUALIFY.
>> WE GIVE THEM THE NUMBER OF THE PERSON DOWN AT THE BOEE.
>> I HEARD IN DES MOINES GENERALLY, THEY GIVE THEM A YEAR OR TWO TO COMPLAIN.
>> SOMETIMES YOU GET A CONDITIONAL.
>> YOU GET A CONDITIONAL. THAT'S FAIRLY COMMON.
>> BUT THE CONTRACT STILL NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINING A VALID LICENSE BECAUSE SOMEHOW IF THEY WERE TO LOSE THEIR LICENSE, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN OUT CONTRACTUALLY.
>> WELL, CONDITION RULES, LICENSE OR NOT LICENSE.
>> MAINTAINING A VALID IOWA ADMINISTRATIVE LICENSE.
>> SOMETIMES THERE MAY BE A CLASS THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE IN THE STATE THEY'RE IN.
IT MIGHT BE A CLASS IN SPECIAL EDUCATION OR HUMAN RELATIONS AS WELL.
>> SECONDARY NEED TO TAKE A CLASS.
>> JOHN, ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO, BROTHER?
>> NO. I JUST HAVE A PLACE I NEED TO GO. [LAUGHTER]
>> NO, I JUST THINK WE SHOULD SERVE ALCOHOL NEXT TIME, IT WILL BE EASIER. [LAUGHTER]
>> BOB, WE'RE GOOD ALL AROUND HERE?
>> WHAT IS THAT? I'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO WORK AGAIN.
WE'VE GOT TEACHER CONFERENCES TODAY.
>> IS THAT THE SAME THING AS A PROFESSIONAL?
>> YOU GUYS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO HELP ME NAVIGATE THAT LITTLE MINEFIELD.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.