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>> [BACKGROUND] GOOD AFTERNOON. IT IS JANUARY 26TH,
[ Board Work Session on January 26, 2026]
2026, AT 4:04 PM.I NOW CALL THIS WORK SESSION TO ORDER.
SHANICE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO THE PRESENTERS.
WE'LL START WITH ASSOCIATE SUPERINTENDENT, ANGELA BEMUS.
>> WE ARE EXCITED. THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS THAT OUR DISTRICT IS GOING TO GET TO AND HAS GOTTEN THE CHANCE TO START TO DIVE INTO, AND THAT IS REALLY THIS BOARD GETS TO DECIDE WHAT THE FUTURE OF OUR FACILITIES REALLY IS GOING TO BE.
CMBA, I JUST ASKED BECAUSE I WAS THINKING IT WAS FALL OF 2024.
WE HAD AN RFP TO DO THIS BIG EVALUATION OF ALL OF OUR FACILITIES AND WHAT THEY NEED, AND THEY CAME AND PRESENTED, AND THEY, NOT ONLY FOLLOW THROUGH ON EVERYTHING THEY SAID AND THEN SOME.
BUT REALLY, WHAT WAS SO INNOVATIVE IS THAT THEY NOT ONLY LOOKED AT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEN HOW THE MODERN LEARNING ENVIRONMENT AND EDUCATIONAL LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS, AND HOW THOSE TWO PARTNER.
A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR TODAY, YOU'LL HEAR THAT ASPECT.
IT JUST WON'T BE HVAC, PLUMBING.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY TERMS I KNOW REALLY, OF THOSE THINGS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL.
WE WILL HAVE TIM PAUL START A LITTLE BIT, JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE FACILITIES, ALL OF THE FINDINGS.
THEN TIM WILL TAKE IT OVER WITH THEM AND GO OVER WHAT ARE SOME OPTIONS.
THEN THERE SHOULD BE SOME TIME FOR SOME QUESTIONS TOWARDS THE END, BUT IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.
ARE YOU GUYS READY? TIM, READY?
>> THANK YOU FOR ALL BEING HERE ON MONDAY AFTERNOON, AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
IT'S BEEN A YEAR IN THE MAKING, AND IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF EFFORT FROM, NOT JUST THIS TEAM, BUT TEAMS ACROSS OUR DISTRICT.
BUT TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MASTER PLAN.
WHAT ARE THEY TRY TO ACCOMPLISH? THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MASTER PLAN IS A COMPREHENSIVE LONG-RANGE ROADMAP THAT GUIDES DECISIONS ABOUT THE USE, MAINTENANCE, RENOVATION, AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND OTHER DISTRICT FACILITIES.
IT ALSO HELPS THE DISTRICT ALIGN ITS PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE WITH EDUCATION GOALS, ENROLLMENT TRENDS, COMMUNITY NEEDS, AND FINANCIAL CAPACITY.
THE BUILDINGS THAT WE ARE PRIMARILY GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY ARE SECONDARY BUILDINGS, AND THEY WERE DESIGNED IN THE LATE '60S, EARLY '70S, AND THE MODEL THEN IS WAY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE UTILIZE THAT SPACE FOR TODAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL BE HEARING IS HOW WE'RE MODELING THE ENVIRONMENT TO THE LEARNING NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS.
SOME OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LED US ON THIS PATHWAY WAS SAFETY AND SECURITY.
THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS SET OUT BY THE BOARD.
LET'S HAVE SAFE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS WITH SECURITY FOR OUR STUDENTS.
WE WANTED STUDENT-CENTERED LEARNING.
WE WILL HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, AND WE WANTED TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY FOR FUTURE READINESS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE EDUCATION ENVIRONMENT IS ALWAYS CHANGING, AND WE NEED TO BE READY FOR THAT NEXT PHASE. INTRODUCING THE TEAM.
THERE WAS QUITE A FEW PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THIS, FROM CMBA ARCHITECTS, WHICH IS LEE BEUKELMAN, COURTNEY KOCH, AND TANNER KOEPPE ARE PART OF OUR TEAM THAT WERE FROM CMBA.
THERE WAS ALSO, SORRY, KCL ENGINEERING, BAKER RHODES DID THE STRUCTURAL, MCLAURY ENGINEERING DID THE CIVIL ENGINEERING AND CONFLUENCE, LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR ATHLETIC FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
ALONG WITH THAT TEAM, TROY THOMAS HAS WORKED SIDE BY SIDE WITH US THROUGH THIS WHOLE STEP.
THE BUILDING FACILITIES, WE MET WITH ALL OF THE BUILDING FACILITIES PEOPLE THAT RUN THE OPERATIONS OF THE BUILDING, RUN THE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, AND ASKED THEM WHAT THEIR NEEDS WERE.
WE MET WITH THE BUILDING PRINCIPALS.
WE SAT DOWN WITH THEM, DISCUSSED LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS.
WHAT DO YOU NEED? WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP IMPROVE YOUR LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS? WE MET WITH THE DLT TEAM AND SHARED WHAT THEIR FUTURE THOUGHTS WERE FOR THE DISTRICT.
IT WAS A PRETTY LARGE TEAM TO PUT THIS ALL
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TOGETHER AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY DID INTO IT.WHAT IS A MASTER PLAN AND HOW DID IT LOOK? WE STARTED OUT WITH FACILITY TOURS WITH ARCHITECTURAL, STRUCTURAL, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, CIVIL, AND LANDSCAPE.
LUCKILY, WE ABBREVIATED THIS FOR YOU TODAY BECAUSE I HAVE BINDERS BACK AT THE OFFICE OF OVER 100 PAGES OF THIS PIPE SECTION NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND WE ABBREVIATED ALL OF THAT FOR YOU.
THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME SPENT LOOKING AT OUR SYSTEMS, LOOKING AT OUR COOLING, HEATING, PLUMBING.
FRANKLY, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED AS TIME WEARS OUT AND TIME WEARS ON.
WHEN WE TALKED WITH THE TEAMS, TELL US WHAT THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY ARE.
WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT IS BAD IN THE BUILDINGS, WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S GOOD AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MOVE THOSE FORWARD.
ADMINISTRATION TEAM, WE MET WITH THEM.
LIKE I SAID, I KNOW LEE AND COURTNEY AND I MET WITH MOST OF THE PRINCIPALS, SAT DOWN, ASKED THEM WHAT WAS GOING WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO DIFFERENTLY? WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP? HOW DOES THE CURRICULUM FIT IN THE NEEDS OF THE SPACE THAT YOU HAVE? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENTLY? THEN WE SAT WITH THE LEADERSHIP TEAM AND DISCUSSED GOALS FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS PROCESS.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CMBA AND HAVE THEM PRESENT THE FINDINGS FROM THIS TEAM, AND THEY'LL GO THROUGH.
BE PREPARED TO PRIMARILY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT SECONDARY BUILDINGS, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT ARE STILL LEFT TO BE REMODELED, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, AT THE END, WE'LL GO OVER ANY QUESTIONS AND HOW THIS ALL LOOKS.
LEE, I'M GOING TO TURN OVER TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
>> JUST REAL QUICK, BECAUSE PROBABLY NOT EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH WHO WE ARE.
OUR TEAM RIGHT HERE IS OUT OF SIOUX CITY, SO WE ARE A LOCAL FIRM.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE FIRMS IN DES MOINES, GRAND ISLAND, OMAHA, SIOUX FALLS, SPENCER, CEDAR FALLS.
I GET THEM ALL, AND GUESS ALL OF THEM.
WE ARE ABOUT 60 PLUS, AND WE DO WORK ALL OVER THE STATES, ALL OVER NEBRASKA, SOUTH DAKOTA, A LITTLE BIT UP INTO MINNESOTA.
WE'VE EVEN GOTTEN OUT INTO ILLINOIS.
WE DO HAVE THE 29 AND THE I-80 CORRIDOR IS PRETTY WELL LOCKDOWN, WE'RE PROUD OF THAT.
ONE UNIQUE THING ABOUT US IS WE DO HAVE 20 OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE DEDICATED TO K-12 ARCHITECTURE EDUCATION.
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME EDUCATING OUR STAFF ON WHAT IS K-12? HOW DO WE DESIGN THESE BUILDINGS? WE SEND THEM OFF TO CONFERENCES, ED SPACES, AND [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE FIND HELPFUL, THAT THEY'RE JUST CONSTANTLY KEEPING US AND PUSHING US FORWARD ON HOW IS EDUCATION MOVING FORWARD.
THEN JUST IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE GOT OVER 90 PROJECTS.
A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE PROBABLY DISTRICTS YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN THESE.
THESE ARE ALL NOT JUST ONE-TIME PROJECTS, THESE ARE LONG TERM CLIENTS.
FOR SOME OF THESE CLIENTS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR OVER 15, 20 YEARS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE A PARTNER.
WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE A VENDOR TO YOU GUYS.
WE WANT TO BE SOMEONE WHO CAN BE THERE AND BE ALONGSIDE YOU AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE FACILITIES.
THAT HAS REALLY FORMED HOW WE LOOK AT K-12.
OUR MISSION STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR K-12 IS JUST TO IMPACT GENERATIONS OF LEARNERS BY ELEVATING EVERY K-12 PROJECT TO A SAFE, HEALTHY, AND SUSTAINABLE SPACE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO FOSTER THAT EDUCATION ENVIRONMENT.
WE WANT YOUR TEACHERS TO STICK AROUND AND THEN NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THAT COMMUNITY PRIDE AND BOOST THAT PRIDE, BECAUSE SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL IS GOING TO PROBABLY BE A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY.
WE KNOW THAT THOSE ARE ALL VERY INTEGRAL INTO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO BE A K-12 FACILITY.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT MAKES US TICK, I THINK AT CMBA.
>> LIKE ANGELA STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENTS IS WHERE WE GET REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SPACES.
AS MUCH AS IT'S ABOUT THE HVAC AND ALL THOSE OTHER FUN THINGS THAT NEED SYSTEM REPAIR, WE WANT TO LOOK HOLISTICALLY AT WHAT YOU HAVE FOR FACILITIES.
A LOT OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT, I'M JUST GOING TO THROW UP SOME OF THESE IMAGES SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THIS STUFF THAT WE'RE STARTING TO UNDERSTAND AS WE GO THROUGH SPACES.
BUT AS LEARNING HAS EVOLVED, WE ALSO KNOW THESE SPACES NEED TO EVOLVE WITH IT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ADMINISTRATION AND ENTRY POINTS INTO ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS ARE SECURE AND SAFE AND THAT WE HAVE A PLACE THAT PARENTS ARE WELCOME TO COME TO THE BUILDING, AND STUDENTS ARE WELCOME INTO EVERY DAY WHEN THEY COME THERE.
WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS ARE BEING UPGRADED FOR THE LEARNING THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SCHOOLS NOW.
WE KNOW WE ALL DON'T LEARN THE SAME ANYMORE, AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO FIND THAT PLACE THAT THEY LEARN BEST, AND HOW WE CAN HELP FACILITATE THAT IN THEIR ENVIRONMENT, IN EVEN FURNITURE THAT THEY HAVE CAN
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MAKE A DAY COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT LEARNERS.WE ALSO KNOW HOW IMPORTANT BEING FUTURE READY AND CAREER READY IS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE AMAZING FACILITIES THAT ARE WORKING REALLY WELL, AND HOW DO WE KEEP PUSHING THAT SO THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE TRAINED AND READY TO ENTER THE WORKING WORLD AND BE CAREER READY? WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT HOW ALL OF THOSE SPACES COME TOGETHER, WHERE WE'RE GATHERING, WHERE WE HAVE COMMON SPACE, MAKING STUDENTS FEEL LIKE THEY WANT TO BE IN OUR BUILDINGS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND THAT THEY'RE WELCOME HERE AND THEY'RE SAFE WHILE THEY'RE HERE.
ALSO, BRINGING THAT BACK, MEDIA CENTERS HAVE COMPLETELY CHANGED, USED TO BE THE LIBRARY, AND NOW WE DO ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT COLLABORATIVE ACTIVITIES IN OUR MEDIA CENTERS AND THEY'RE ACTIVE ALL THE TIME AND ALWAYS HAVING PROGRAMMING GOING ON FOR OUR STUDENTS.
WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT HOW THOSE DINING AND CAFETERIA CHANGES HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS, AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES THAT OUR STUDENTS NEED.
ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GYM AND ATHLETIC SPACES, THAT BECOME INTEGRAL TO WHAT WE'RE DOING EVERY DAY IN OUR BUILDINGS, AS WELL AS WEIGHT ROOM AND TRAINING AND ADDITIONAL FACILITIES THAT SUPPORT THAT.
THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, ALL OF THE OUTDOOR FIELDS, THE SYSTEMS WE'VE LOOKED AT, AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND TO BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER INTO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE, THE THEATER, THE FINE ARTS, HAVING PLACES FOR ALL STUDENTS TO BELONG AND HAVE SPACES THAT SUPPORT THEM AND WHERE THEY ARE.
THEN BRINGING IT ALL BACK TOGETHER WITH MAKING THAT ENTRANCE STATEMENT, THAT IDENTITY, SOMETHING THAT WILL UNIQUELY SAY, WE ARE NOW IN THE SIOUX CITY SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
ALL OF THOSE PIECES COME TOGETHER WHEN WE START THINKING ABOUT HOW SPACES ARE WORKING, AND WHAT, LIKE LEE SAID, GETS US EXCITED ABOUT THOSE SPACES, IS HOW WE CAN MAKE ALL OF THESE WORK TOGETHER.
SOMEONE CAN SAY, I THINK OUR CLASSROOM ISN'T WORKING, BUT HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT ALL THE SPACES GO TOGETHER AND CAN IMPACT EVERYONE IN THAT BUILDING?
>> A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT OUR MASTER PLANS, BECAUSE AS TIM ALLUDED TO, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND ANGELA ALLUDED TO THAT.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE HVAC AND THE MEP AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
WE BREAK IT DOWN INTO THREE STEPS, AND THEN WITHIN THOSE THREE STEPS, WE'VE GOT A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
THE FIRST THING WE DO IS WE DO THE ANALYSIS.
THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN PICKING ON.
BUT THEN WE LOOK AT THAT CURRICULUM AND WE LOOK AT YOUR CAPACITY.
WE CALL IT THE THREE CS AND WE LOOK AT EVERY ONE OF THOSE PIECES.
I THINK TIM WAS BEING 100 PAGES, PROBABLY MORE LIKE 1,500 PAGES.
BY THE TIME WE WERE ALL SAID AND DONE, HIGH SCHOOLS ARE WHAT, 600 PAGES EACH.
WE GET REALLY DOWN IN THE WEEDS OF SOME OF THAT.
BUT THAT'S NOT JUST THE TECHNICAL, IT'S ALL THOSE MEETING MINUTES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE HAD.
THE NEXT THING THAT WE DO IS, THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS IS ALL THAT ENGAGEMENT THAT TIM TALKED ABOUT. WE'VE MET WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES AS ARCHITECTS, PEOPLE THINK, WE JUST PUT FORWARD WHAT WE THINK IS BEST, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WE WANT A SPACE THAT NEEDS TO BE FUNCTIONAL NEEDS TO WORK FOR YOU GUYS.
IT CAN'T JUST LOOK AT, IT NEEDS TO WORK THE WAY YOU GUYS NEED TO WORK.
THEN COMES THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS PART, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT A FEW IDEAS FORWARD.
THERE ARE NO SOLID SOLUTIONS HERE TODAY.
[LAUGHTER] THESE ARE, THIS IS IDEA.
THIS IS A WORK SESSION. WE'RE HERE TO TALK.
WE'RE HERE TO HEAR FROM YOU, WHAT YOU GUYS THINK.
HOPEFULLY, AT THE END, THERE IS DIALOGUE.
WE DON'T WANT THIS JUST TO BE A LECTURE TO YOU, AND THEN WE ALL GO ABOUT OUR WAY.
PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND LET'S KEEP THE DIALOGUE OPEN.
>> SINCE YOU INVITED QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU.
>> I SAID AT THE END. [LAUGHTER]
>> ON HERE, YOU MENTIONED ENGAGEMENT OF STAFF, STUDENTS, AND COMMUNITY TASK FORCE.
CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME A HIGH LEVEL OF HOW THAT'S BEEN DONE OR IS THAT YET TO COME?
>> THE ADMIN AND BOARD, TIM GUY TALKED ABOUT THOSE.
THEN THE STAFF, HOW DID WE GO ABOUT ALL THAT, TIM? WE MET WITH ALL THE PRINCIPALS. GO AHEAD.
>> A LOT OF THE FACILITY NEEDS WERE LOOKED AT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE OF THINGS.
WE ENGAGED WITH THE STAFF THAT RUN THOSE BUILDINGS, DAY-TO-DAY, O&M STAFF.
SOME FUTURE ENGAGEMENTS THAT WILL COME WOULD BE AS WE HAVE A PATHWAY, WHETHER IT'S RENOVATE OR WHATEVER THAT PATHWAY IS, THEN WE'LL MEET WITH STAFF IN THOSE BUILDINGS TO HELP DEVELOP THE SPECIFIC NEEDS AND GET COMMUNITY INPUT.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A BUILDING OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT WE COULD BRING BACK INTO SERVICE AND GET THAT COMMUNITY INPUT ALONG WITH STAFF AND OTHERS.
>> THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ENGAGEMENT THERE OF WHEN TO EXACTLY.
ONCE WE GET A PROJECT, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL GO INTO MORE IN-DEPTHS ON SOME OF THOSE.
>> THE FIRST STEP THAT LEE MENTIONED WAS THOSE CONDITIONS REVIEW.
LOOKING AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS,
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THE THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT WE REALLY DUG INTO WAS NODLAND AND SUNNYSIDE AND RIVERSIDE.THAT CAME FROM THE LAST MASTER PLAN AND TRYING TO WRAP UP WHAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT THERE.
NODLAND AND SUNNYSIDE ARE VERY SIMILAR IN ASPECTS BECAUSE THEY SERVE THE SAME PORTION OF TOWN, HAVE THE SAME ISSUES, THEY LACK THAT MAJOR SPACE, THEY SHARE AMENITIES SO YOU HAVE STAFF GOING FROM ONE SCHOOL TO THE OTHER.
THEY'RE NOT JUST THE STAFF, BUT ALSO THE STUDENTS.
LUNCHES IN THE GYM, THE GYM IS IN THE LUNCH ROOM, SO THINGS LIKE THAT.
LOOKING AT ALL THAT, YOU ALSO SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, TO GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE SCHOOLS IS ON THE LEFT SIDE, IS THE PRIMARY CHALLENGES AND SOME BIG KEY HITTERS.
THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS BRINGING IN SOME OF THAT OTHER WORK THAT OUR MEP FOUND THAT THEY CAN SHOW THAT THESE SYSTEMS ARE AGED.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 56-YEAR-OLD BUILDING, NOT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE BRAND NEW, SADLY.
LIKE I SAID, NODLAND AND SUNNYSIDE, VERY SIMILAR, LIMITED SPACE.
THE BIG CHALLENGE HERE IS, DO YOU COMBINE THOSE SCHOOLS INTO ONE? WHERE IS THAT COMBINED TO? WE'LL GET INTO THIS AS WE GET DEEPER INTO THE NEXT STEPS, BUT JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SYSTEMS ARE AGED AND THE SPACE IS LIMITED AT THAT.
THE THIRD ELEMENTARY WOULD BE RIVERSIDE.
WHAT WE SAW THERE IS THAT YOU HAVE THAT SAME AGE ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME AGE AS NODLAND AND SUNNYSIDE, ARE VERY SIMILAR.
WHAT YOU HAVE THERE, THOUGH IS YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE, YOU'RE JUST LACKING THE MODERN AMENITIES TO TEACH IN THOSE SPACES PROPERLY FOR THE SIZE OF SCHOOL THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
THE STUDENT TO SQUARE FOOT RATIO IS VERY MUCH OUT OF BALANCE THERE, WHERE YOU HAVE ALMOST TOO MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT YOU CAN'T USE IT PROPERLY BECAUSE OF THE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS THAT YOU HAVE AT AN ELEMENTARY LEVEL.
FUTURE PROGRAMMING THERE IS, DO YOU LOOK TO COMBINE THEM WITH ANOTHER ELEMENTARY? DO YOU LOOK TO BRING MORE RESOURCES THERE? ARE JUST DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
MIDDLE SCHOOLS, YOU HAVE THREE UNIQUE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AS WELL, TWO THAT ARE SOMEWHAT NEWER, AND THEN A THIRD ONE THAT IS NEW TO THE ASPECT THAT YOU RENOVATED IT AND PUT AN ADDITION ON IT, WHICH WOULD BE EAST, BUT IT'S STILL OLDER BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT WAS AN EXISTING SCHOOL.
WHAT WE SAW AT THESE THREE SCHOOLS IS YOU HAVE THE LACK OF CLASSROOMS, AND YES.
>> AT EAST, THE LACK OF CLASSROOMS IS DUE TO THE OTHER FUNCTIONS IN THE REST OF THE SPACE.
AT NORTH AND WEST, YOU DON'T SEE THAT AS MUCH.
THOSE SPACES ARE STARTING TO FILL UP, BUT THEY STILL HAVE THE ROOM TO GO TO THOSE NEXT THINGS.
THE BIGGEST THING ALSO IS JUST YOUR UNDERUTILIZED SPACES IN THESE SCHOOLS.
TRYING TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE HAVING THE SPACES THAT GET THEM READY TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
AS YOUR CAREER ACADEMIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ADAPT, YOUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS GOT TO REACT TO THOSE.
THAT'S SOME OF THE BIGGER DISCUSSION ITEMS OF THE TWO OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
>> I THINK SOME KEY THINGS ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS IS YOU GUYS SAW THAT THOSE SCHOOLS ARE ABOUT ONLY 20-YEARS-OLD COMPARED TO YOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT WERE IN THEIR 60S.
THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE STRUCTURALLY AND AESTHETICALLY THEY'RE ALL REALLY GOOD SHAPE.
WE PROBABLY WOULD SAY IF THOSE WERE TO BE PUT ON A PRIORITY LIST, PROBABLY NOT YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITY, EXCEPT FOR EAST.
EAST IS PROBABLY ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND CONSIDERED AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON.
HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT FACILITY AS IT'S BURSTING AT THE SEAMS OF THAT AREA OF TOWN IS GROWING, AND IT'S FILLING UP FAST, TRAFFIC PATTERNS, ALL OF THAT STUFF STARTS TO PLAY.
>> WOULD YOU SAY EAST MIDDLE IS HALF OF IT'S 40-YEARS-OLD AND THE OTHER HALF IS 25-YEAR-OLDS? WOULD THAT BE ABOUT RIGHT?
>> THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY ACCURATE.
IT'S HOW THAT BUILDING GOT DIVIDED AND ADDED ONTO, AND IT DOES HAVE AN AUDITORIUM IN THERE, BUT I THINK THE NUMBER WAS LIKE 150 MAYBE AT BEST IN THERE.
IT DOESN'T EVEN REALLY GET USED FOR THOSE ASSEMBLIES AS IT PROBABLY COULD.
THERE'S MORE IN-DEPTH; THESE ARE HIGH-LEVEL.
LIKE I SAID, WE CONDENSE THIS DOWN, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT IT AS A TEAM, WE GOT TO CONDENSE IT DOWN ONE MORE TIME BECAUSE IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. IT'S ALL AVAILABLE.
TIM HAS IT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOLS IS YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS.
THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL BUILT WITHIN THE SAME TIME FRAME, WITHIN A FEW YEARS OF EACH OTHER.
THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW BECAUSE THE BUILDING METHODS ARE THE SAME.
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THE LAYOUTS ARE ALL VERY SIMILAR.THE IDEA OF EDUCATION WAS ALL DONE AT THE EXACT SAME TIME.
WHEN ONE HAS A PROBLEM, THINK THREE TIMES, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THAT'S THE STORY THAT'S GOING TO BE TOLD HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH EAST HIGH, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WE'RE UP TO 55 YEARS OLD, AND THAT BUILDING IS HOLDING JUST SHY OF 1,500 STUDENTS.
A LOT OF KIDS ARE COMING AND GOING OUT OF THERE.
COURTNEY AND I CAN ATTEST. WE GOT CAUGHT IN THE PARKING LOT WHEN THE SCHOOLS BEING LET OUT.
WE GOT SCHEDULED FOR THAT TIME FRAME, AND WE WEREN'T SURE WHERE TO GO OURSELVES, SO VERY BUSY PLACE.
BUT SOME TARGETED UPDATES, IF WE WERE TO JUST LOOK AT THIS THING HIGH LEVEL, TECH UPGRADES, YOUR IMPROVED LIGHTING, UPGRADED FINISHES, LACKING A LOT OF STORAGE, AND THEN WE JUST HAVE SOME ADEA COMPLIANCE, YOUR BAND AND MUSIC ROOM.
THERE IS A LIFT THAT GETS DOWN THERE BUT WE'RE TOLD IT'S NOT WORKING PROBABLY 90% OF THE TIME TO GET KIDS DOWN THERE, SO THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING OUTSIDE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
THAT'S JUST A FEW THINGS, GOT SOME TIGHT DOORS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT SOME OF THOSE ARE THE CRITICAL NEEDS, I WOULD SAY THAT STARTING TO HAPPEN HERE.
TARGETED UPGRADES, YOU CAN DO THOSE.
THAT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE EVERYTHING A LITTLE BIT BETTER, A LITTLE NICER.
NOW, THE CRITICAL NEEDS IS YOUR CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENTS.
EVERY CLASSROOM RIGHT NOW IS SEPARATED BY PROBABLY A TWO OR THREE-QUARTER-INCH PARTITION.
I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO CALL IT A WALL.
SOUND, YOU CAN PROBABLY HEAR THIS CONVERSATION IS EASILY THROUGH THIS WALL IN THOSE CLASSROOMS. WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF THAT PROBLEM.
THEY'RE NOT YOUR TRADITIONAL SOUND WALL THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH HERE.
THAT JUST LENDS TO DISTRACTION, AND IT LENDS TO A LOT OF JUST COMFORT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN ALSO THEY'RE BARELY THICK ENOUGH TO GET POWER INTO THEM.
THE NEED FOR POWER FOR ALL OUR ONE-ON-ONE DEVICES THAT WE'RE NOT AROUND IN THE '70S IS A MAJOR CONCERN, AND WE'VE GOT EXTENSION CORDS ALL OVER THE PLACE DOING THOSE THINGS.
THE OTHER THING IS LOCKER ROOMS ARE, HOW DO I SAY, LARGE, AND YOU SAID, WELL, BIG LOCKER ROOMS ARE GOOD.
BUT LOCKER ROOMS ARE JUST BEING USED DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY WERE BACK IN THE DAY.
MOST OF THE SHOWERS NOW ARE BEING USED AS STORAGE, BUT WE NEED MORE STORAGE.
KIDS JUST DON'T SHOWER LIKE THEY USED TO IN THE BIG, WIDE OPEN SHOWERS.
THEY'RE MORE COMPARTMENTALIZED NOW SO REVAMPING ALL THOSE LOCKER ROOMS ACROSS ALL THREE SCHOOLS AND ADDING SECURITY IN SOME OF THE THINGS OF HOW TO CREATE SENIOR LOCKER ROOMS, BASKETBALL LOCKER ROOMS AND JUST TRY TO HELP SPREAD THINGS OUT A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S SEEN ON ALL THREE AND WAS ASKED FOR IN ALL THREE SCHOOLS.
I ALREADY TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT ADA ACCESSIBILITY.
THAT'S JUST AN ISSUE ACROSS ALL OF THEM, NOT UNCOMMON BETWEEN SCHOOLS OF THAT AGE; IT JUST WASN'T A THING.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GUYS DID ANYTHING WRONG THEN.
THAT RANGES FROM RAMPS, BEING THE WRONG SLOPE, DOOR WIDTHS, NO ELEVATOR ACCESS TO SOME THINGS; IT'S JUST A WIDE RANGE OF ADA.
THE MEDIA CENTERS, ESPECIALLY AT EAST IS VERY UNDERUTILIZED.
THERE'S A LOT OF EXTRA SPACE IN THERE.
THEY'RE RUNNING SOME OFFICE SPACE OUT OF THERE, COULD USE SOME EXTRA CLASSROOMS IN THAT SPACE.
THEN MULTI-PURPOSE AND FRONT ENTRY, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE ALL A NEED OVER HERE AT EAST.
NOW, IF YOU LOOK OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT, YOU GUYS JUST HAVE PRINTS, OR YOU ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING ON THE SCREEN?
>> THE CHARTS ON THE RIGHT THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT LIFE EXPECTANCY IN PERCENTAGE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOUR HOT WATER PIPING, YOUR CONDENSING PIPING, ALL OF THAT IS STARTING TO HIT.
KCL AND SOME OF THOSE GUYS, WE'RE BUMPING UP AGAINST OUR TIME FRAME HERE.
VERY CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ARE HAPPENING AT EAST HIGH AND JUST FOR SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT, WE'RE THINKING, AS WE LOOKED AT IT, LIKE, WHAT DOES FUTURE PROGRAMMING LOOK LIKE HERE, YOUR CAREER TECHNICAL.
THERE'S LARGE AMOUNTS OF SPACE FOR THE FRESHMAN CLASS THERE THAT THEY'RE STILL RUNNING CAREER TECHNICAL SPACE OUT OF THERE.
IT'S GETTING TIGHT, BUT IT'S ALSO A LOT OF PRIME REAL ESTATE IF WE NEED TO EXPAND THE SCHOOL. WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT? SHOULD WE START THINK ABOUT MOVING THAT OUT TO THE CAREER ACADEMY, OR DO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT AT THE SCHOOLS? THAT'S A BIG PICTURE THOUGHT.
WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THAT? CLASSROOMS EXPANSIONS.
THESE SCHOOLS ARE MULTI-LEVEL, AND OUR SITES ARE GETTING TIGHTER.
WHERE DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO START ADDING CLASSROOMS ON, AND EAST DEFINITELY NEEDS CLASSROOM SPACE ADDED ON TO IT SO THAT IS A THOUGHT. THEN WRESTLING.
YOUR WRESTLING BUILDING, WELL, THAT'S JUST IT.
IT'S A SEPARATE BUILDING ON ALL THREE CAMPUSES.
STAND ALONE. WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT FROM THE SECURITY? ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT OR DO WE TRY TO START INTEGRATING THAT INTO OUR SCHOOLS? JUST SOME HIGH-LEVEL THOUGHTS THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT LATER.
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AS WE MOVE INTO NORTH, SIMILAR TARGETED UPDATES, AGAIN, 55-YEARS-OLD, AND HERE WE'RE PUSHING ABOUT 15, 30 AT THIS SCHOOL.I THINK A LOT OF US THAT LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC PATTERN THERE ON OUTER DRIVE AND HOW BUSY THAT CAN GET, AND GETTING KIDS FROM ACROSS THE HIGH SCHOOL DOWN TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
RETHINKING MAYBE HOW THAT PARKING LOT AND HOW SOME OF THAT BUS TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT COMES TOGETHER, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THERE BUT, SAME CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT ISSUE.
I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT IT, BUT JUST REMEMBER THOSE THIN WALLS; THEY'RE EVERYWHERE IN THAT BUILDING.
THIS BUILDING, I THINK, ACTUALLY LAYS OUT REALLY WELL.
IT'S GOT A GOOD CIRCULAR, KEEPS KIDS MOVING IN THERE.
IT'S GOT A GOOD PATH OF FLOW, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE HOW THE GYM AND ALL OF THAT, THAT WING WORKS.
THEN IT STARTS TO FALL APART IF YOU ASK ME FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT.
THAT ATHLETIC SUPPORT, THE ADA, MORE COLLABORATION SPACE.
I LOVE TALKING TO THE NORTH HIGH FACILITY, OR THE STAFF, WHERE THEY WANT MORE OF THAT.
YOU SAW SOME OF THOSE PICTURES.
WHERE CAN KIDS MEET TO COLLABORATE? WHERE CAN THEY GET TOGETHER TO DO ASSIGNMENTS, OR MAYBE IT'S A PASSING PERIOD WHERE THEY CAN DO THEIR THING? LOVE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THEIR VISION FOR HOW TO BUILD THAT EXCITEMENT AND JUST THAT CAMARADERIE IN THE SCHOOL.
A LITTLE BIT ON THAT FACILITY ORGANIZATION.
AGAIN, I LIKE HOW THE CLASSROOM PORTION SETS UP.
IT'S JUST THAT GYM GOING DOWN, BRINGING ALL YOUR MEMBERS DOWN INTO THE GYM AND THEN BACK UP THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR UP THE NORTH.
HOW COULD WE REWORK THAT INTO THE COMMONS, AND THEN IT REALLY GETS TO BE A MAZE BACK IN THERE FOR ALL THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS. YOU GO FROM A REALLY GOOD ORGANIZATION, GOOD SUPERVISION, TO LOSING IT A LITTLE BIT OVER THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
BUT THERE'S ALSO NO ELEVATOR OVER THERE.
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO TAKE THE ELEVATOR IN THE CLASSROOM SIDE, GO DOWN ALL THE WAY OR ACROSS OUTSIDE TO GO TO THE COMMONS.
WE DO HAVE SOME ADA ISSUES TO DO THERE.
SAME, I DON'T KNOW IF I TOUCHED ON THE ENTRY AND THE SECURITY.
ALL OF YOUR SCHOOLS HAVE A SECURE VESTIBULE SO THAT TYPE OF SECURITY IS NOT AN ISSUE.
WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE LAYERS GOING ON, BUT WE DON'T HAVE GREAT VISIBILITY OUT TO THE PARKING LOT.
YOUR STAFF AND YOUR ADMINISTRATION.
THEY'RE WORKING A LITTLE BIT BLIND ON MAYBE WHAT'S HAPPENED, WE'RE RELYING ON CAMERAS, WHICH IS GOOD, NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
BUT WE DEFINITELY THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN THAT UP AND GET A BETTER VISUAL.
YOU SAW IN SOME OF THOSE IMAGES AT THE FIRST HOW THE PEOPLE SITTING AT THE FRONT DESK.
THEY CAN SEE ANYTHING COMING UP TO THE FRONT DOOR ALL THE WAY FROM THE PARKING LOT.
THEY CAN SEE ANYTHING THAT APPROACHES, AND WE JUST ENCOURAGE THAT VISIBLE ACCESS SO YOU'RE NOT WAITING FOR A DOORBELL TO BE RUNG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE GOOD THING IS ALL YOUR SCHOOLS HAVE THAT SECURITY FOR VESTIBULE SO WE'VE GOT THAT, AND THE KIDS ARE SAFE THAT WAY.
>> WAS THAT FLYING VISIBILITY MORE POIGNANT AT EAST AND NORTH VERSUS WEST?
>> WEST IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. YOU SEE THROUGH A FEW DIFFERENT LAYERS.
NORTH AND EAST DEFINITELY HAVE [OVERLAPPING]
>> BECAUSE THAT LINE HAS FINE SPOTS FOR SECURITY.
>> I THINK YOU COULD IMPROVE IT AT WEST, BUT PROBABLY NOT AS CRITICAL AT WEST.
IT'S GOOD. YOU CAN SEE SIMILAR INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES.
IF WE COULD HAVE GONE PAST 100%, NORTH HAS A LOT OF THEIR SYSTEMS, A LOT OF THEIR PIPING AND STUFF LIKE THAT UP ON THE ROOF, WHICH IS DETERIORATING AS WE SPEAK IN THIS WEATHER.
IF WE COULD GO BEYOND 100, THIS ONE WOULD BE WELL BEYOND 100.
HOW MUCH GLYCOL DID YOU GUYS JUST PUT IN LAST YEAR?
>> SEVERAL HUNDRED GALLONS. THIS ONE IS A VERY CRITICAL NEED IN THOSE AREAS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER SYSTEMS THERE THAT ARE STARTING TO RUN OUT OF TIME AS WELL.
I TOUCHED ON SOME OF THESE THINGS ALREADY.
THE BUS SITE CIRCULATION WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE HIGH-LEVEL THINGS OF HOW CAN WE GET MORE SPACE THROUGH THERE, BUT SIMILAR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE CAREER TECH.
THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE DEDICATED TO EACH ONE OF THESE SCHOOLS FOR THAT AND THAT'S PRIME REAL ESTATE OF WHAT CAN WE DO MORE WITH THAT? WEST WAS HOLDING ITS OWN.
IT'S OLDER. BUT WEST WAS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
THEY HAD NEW UPDATES TO THE GYM, THAT COMMONS THERE, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON IN THERE.
THE ISSUE THERE IS PROBABLY THEIR LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MAZE TO GET AROUND, LACKING CLEAR CIRCULATION, I WOULD SAY, THROUGH THOSE SPACES.
TALKING WITH THE PRINCIPAL, THAT'S ONE THING THEY WOULD LOVE TO JUST BLOW THAT UP AND REORGANIZE THAT SPACE AND GET IT TO BE A BETTER EDUCATION, BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST WEAVING IN AND OUT OF THESE COMPARTMENTS.
OTHERWISE, SAME ACOUSTICS, SAME ISSUES THERE, SAME LOCKER ROOM PROBLEMS HERE, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE SOME PROGRAMMING NEEDS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT.
DON'T NEED TO REPEAT THE CHARTS ON THE RIGHT THERE.
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YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY'RE MAXING OUT AS WELL.THE INTERESTING THING HERE, WHEN WE ACTUALLY DID THIS REPORT, SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED, BUT WEST HAS A UNIQUE THING; THEY HAVE THAT CHILDCARE SPACE.
WHAT DOES THE DISTRICT WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO WITH THAT? CAREER TECH, WRESTLING, ALL GOOD THINGS.
BUT THEN THAT LEADS US TO YOUR CAREER ACADEMY, YOU HAVE 70 STAFF OVER HERE, AND THERE'S 2,600 KIDS THAT VISIT YOUR CAREER ACADEMY IN A DAY BETWEEN THIS BUILDING AND THE BUILDING OUT AT HARRY HOPKINS.
IT'S A LOT OF KIDS ON THE MOVE AND A LOT OF KIDS DOING GREAT THINGS THERE.
BROKE THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT TALKING THERE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BUILDING, YOU CAN SEE IT THERE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE TOP; IT'S THE ORANGE.
EVERYTHING'S STARTING TO MAX OUT, AND I THINK WE JUST EXPERIENCED SOME OF THAT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WE HAD MAYBE SOME PLUMBING ISSUES GOING ON HERE.
WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THOSE EFFECTS.
OBVIOUSLY, THE OTHER BUILDING IS RELATIVELY NEW STILL, SO NOT A LOT OF CONCERNS THERE OTHER THAN YOU'RE OUTGROWING IT.
IT'S FILLING UP, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR MORE SPACE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ADD MORE PROGRAMS, THEY WANT TO DO MORE THINGS, THEY NEED MORE STORAGE IS TAKEN OFF JUST LIKE YOU GUYS DREAMED IT WOULD.
THOSE ARE GREAT THINGS, AND THE BEST THING IS WE DON'T HAVE TO CHASE A BUNCH OF MECHANICAL ISSUES AND [INAUDIBLE] ISSUES OUT THERE.
CONFLUENCE HELPS US ON THE ASSESSMENT OF YOUR SPORTS FACILITIES.
THESE ARE HARD TO QUANTIFY, AND CHARTS AND EVERYTHING.
I THINK TALKING WITH YOUR COACHES AND YOUR ADES, A LOT OF THESE SPACES ARE WELL-KEPT.
WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE HERE.
IT'S STARTING TO FALL BEHIND YOUR COMPETITORS, IS HOW THEY WERE SAYING.
WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE SOME TEAMS NOT WANT TO COME HERE PERFORM.
THEY DON'T WANT TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
WE'RE GETTING, I'D SAY, ALL YOUR PRACTICE FOOTBALL FIELDS ARE READY FOR A RESURFACING, IF YOU WILL, PUT SOME SAND OUT THERE, GET THEM LEVELED UP, REWORK THE GRASS.
TENNIS COURTS COULD ALL USE SOME RE-LEVELLING AND CORRECTING BASEBALL, SOFTBALL.
THEY'RE ALL STARTING TO MEET THEIR TIME.
AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF FACILITIES BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING TRIPLICATED.
YOU GOT A LOT MORE IN-DEPTH ON EACH ONE OF THOSE, THEY'RE IN THE DOCUMENTS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE ONE A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY SEES.
THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE COME, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF SIOUX CITY SCHOOLS WHEN THEY COME TO VISIT THESE FACILITIES SO WE GOT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT, TOO.
[NOISE] THAT IS A HIGH-LEVEL, I KNOW I WENT MORE IN DEPTH ON THE HIGH SCHOOLS BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WE STEP BACK AND LOOK AT IT, IF WE WERE TO PRIORITIZE THESE, YOUR HIGH SCHOOLS ARE PROBABLY YOUR GUESS IS SHOULD BE ONE OF YOUR FIRST PRIORITIES MOVING FORWARD.
THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WOULD FOLLOW THEREAFTER.
YOU'D PROBABLY SWAP THOSE IF YOU WANTED TO, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO FINISH OFF AN OLD MASTER PLAN THERE YET.
BUT WE'RE ON BORROWED TIME, PROBABLY ON SOME OF THE ISSUES GOING ON AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
JUST THROUGH THE SYSTEMATIC INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST NEEDING TO UPDATE THE MODERN PROGRAMMING IN THERE, AND THEN EVERY ONE OF THOSE SCHOOLS, JUST TALKING WITH MR. METH, AT NORTH.
THEY DON'T HAVE AN EMPTY SPOT IN THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW TO PUT KIDS OR A TEACHER OR AN OFFICE SO WE'RE MAXING.
THEY'RE DOING GREAT WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.
THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT TALKING TO SCHOOLS IS TEACHERS AND STAFF. THEY'RE RESILIENT.
THEY MAKE IT WORK, AND THEY GET IT DONE, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO MORE WITH IT TO HELP THEM IN THAT SPACE? THAT'S A LOT OF TALKING. [LAUGHTER] ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE ON ON JUST.
>> WE'RE NOT DONE THERE YET, BUT YEAH, GO AHEAD.
>> OH, WELL, YOU JUST SAID IF YOU WERE GOING TO PUT A PRIORITY, YOU WOULD PUT THE HIGH SCHOOLS OVER THOSE THREE ELEMENTARY BUILDINGS THAT ARE EVEN OLDER THAN THE HIGH SCHOOLS?
>> IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THEY SERVE, OR?
>> NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND JUST THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S STARTING TO LET GO THERE.
BUT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ARE RIGHT BEHIND IT.
>> PROBABLY BECAUSE IT'S A CLOSE TIE?
>> BUT SINCE WE'RE IN A SUPER BOWL SEASON, SOMEONE HAS TO WIN.
IT'S DEFINITELY A CLOSE TIE, AND I DON'T THINK YOU'D GO WRONG ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
JUST KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A FIVE-YEAR WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING.
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ONE DOESN'T BUY YOU MORE TIME THAN THE OTHER. WE'LL PUT IT THAT WAY.>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE KNOW THE CONDITIONS NOW.
NOW, WE GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT'S NEXT.
THE FIRST QUESTION WE ASKED IS, WHAT IF WE RENOVATE THESE FACILITIES? WE LOOKED AT THE EIGHT FACILITIES.
WE DID NOT LOOK AT THE ATHLETIC FIELDS FOR THIS DOCUMENTATION PURPOSES HERE, BUT WE LOOKED AT THE ELEMENTARY, THE HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
YES, WE KNOW, THEY'RE IN A WEIRD ORDER THERE, BUT PRIORITIES LEFT TO RIGHT, BUT NOT WITHIN EACH CATEGORY.
JUST BECAUSE EAST IS THE FIRST ONE SHOWN IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS, DOES NOT MEAN IT'S A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THE OTHER TWO.
THERE WE GO. IT'S GOT ANIMATION TO IT.
THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED OFF OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR FACILITY.
THE LARGER THE FACILITY, THE LARGER THE NUMBER, OBVIOUSLY.
THEN WE HAVE A HIGH TO LOW RANGE DEPENDING ON SOME OF THE VARIANCES THAT YOU CAN DO TO BE ABLE TO ADAPT YOUR FACILITIES FOR WHAT THAT EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT, THAT COURTNEY MENTIONED EARLIER, AT EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT IS.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAD TO BE MADE.
WITH EACH ONE OF THESE, ON THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, WE ASSUME THAT WE HAD THE ENTIRE SCHOOL TO OUR DISPOSAL TO RENOVATE.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS EVERY KID IS OUT AND WE MOVE IN AND WE GO FROM FAR LEFT TO FAR RIGHT AND TOP TO BOTTOM WITH EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED THAT WE SAW IN THAT REPORT EARLIER OF WHAT ISSUES WE HAD.
THE OTHER ONE IS YOU WOULD BE DOING THIS NOW, SO THERE WOULD BE A MINOR INFLATION INCREASE TO EACH ONE OF THESE SCHOOLS AS YOU WENT TO EACH ONE OF THEM.
AS YOU COULD TELL, VERY IN RANGE OF WHAT'S NEEDED AT EACH ONE.
AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE NUMBERS ARE LARGER BECAUSE THERE'S MORE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THERE COMPARED TO YOUR NORTH AND YOUR WEST MIDDLE, NOT AS MUCH AS NEEDED THERE TO CONTINUE FOR THAT SCHOOL TO BE AT THE TOP OF ITS LEVEL.
>> WHAT'S REALLY IN THOSE NORTH AND WEST SCHOOLS IS THEY HAD ASKED FOR A FEW EXTRA CLASSROOMS IN EACH POD.
WHAT WE JUST USED IN OUR SQUARE FOOT PRICE WAS RIPPING OUT THE LOCKERS, AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION, BUT THERE'S A FEW SPACES THAT WERE UNDERUTILIZED LIKE THAT.
WE JUST SAID, IF WE RENOVATED THOSE SPOTS AND ADDED TWO CLASSROOMS PER POD WITH A FEW INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS, THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THAT $5 TO $6 MILLION RANGE.
NOT A HIGH PRIORITY, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO PUT A DOLLAR TO HELP YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GET THAT UP, BUT THEN YOU CAN SEE EAST THERE.
THAT IS A FULL RENOVATION BECAUSE MAINLY, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THERE TO GET THEM TO HAVE SOME CAPACITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT BIG NUMBERS.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE, IS THERE AN EXPECTANCY OF SCHOOL? IS THE LIFE OF THE SCHOOL 55 YEARS? WHAT IS THAT?
>> USUALLY, THAT 50-60 YEAR MARK IS USUALLY WHAT WE-
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HELPS AT ALL, BUT WHEN WE DESIGN A BUILDING AND FOLLOW BOARD POLICY, WE DESIGN THEM FOR 50 YEARS, IS THAT LIFE EXPECTANCY THAT WE DESIGN FOR.
OF COURSE, WE'RE PAST THE 50-YEAR MARK.
IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY, AT THIS RATE, IT'LL FAIL, BUT THE TYPICAL DESIGN PROCEDURE IS 50 YEARS.
>> THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NOT DOING MAINTENANCE IN BETWEEN THERE.
YOUR MECHANICAL SYSTEMS WILL PROBABLY BE REPLACED EVERY 10-15 YEARS, BUT AFTER A WHILE, THE 50-YEAR MARK IS WHAT WE SHOOT FOR. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
>> THE QUESTION ON THE 50-YEAR MARK.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE ARE STRUCTURE ISSUES OR THIS OR THAT OR IT'S CRUMBLY, OR IT'S JUST THAT AFTER 50 YEARS, LIKE A HOUSE, IT'S TIME TO CHANGE A BUNCH OF THINGS?
>> I WOULD SAY, IF I WERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION STRUCTURALLY ON ALL THESE SCHOOLS, IS THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE BUILT LIKE TANKS.
THOSE THINGS ARE CONCRETE STRUCTURE, STEEL, FLOORS, AND THE TWO LEVELS ARE CONCRETE.
LIFTING OUT THE CEILING TILE, LOOKING UP THERE, I WAS REALLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT, BUT STRUCTURALLY, THOSE ARE PRETTY SOLID FACILITIES, BUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO START DOING IN 50 YEARS, IF NOT SOONER, AGAIN, THERE'S CAVEATS TO ALL OF THIS, BUT TUCK POINTING.
YOUR INSULATION IS PROBABLY SHOT.
YOU'VE PROBABLY REPLACED YOUR ROOF A COUPLE OF TIMES.
NOW, YOU'RE DEALING WITH YOUR PLUMBING.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE, IS WHAT'S HAPPENING TO ALL THAT PLUMBING UNDER THE GROUND? THERE ARE SCHOOLS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH DISTRICTS WHERE IT'S
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LITERALLY JUST CORRODING UNDER THE FLOOR. WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HAPPENING.I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S HAPPENING AT YOUR BUILDINGS, WE JUST DON'T KNOW, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU GOT TO START LOOKING FOR AND START TO REALLY MAKE YOU WONDER, IS IT COST EFFECTIVE TO FIX ALL THIS AND REALLY GAIN NOTHING, OR DO WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THE NEXT STEP? WHERE DOES VALUE BEGIN TO PLAY? AT 50 YEARS, THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT TO REALLY START ASKING THAT QUESTION.
OR SOONER OR LATER, IT JUST DEPENDS.
>> AS MUCH AS TANNER WENT THROUGH RENOVATION WORK AND WE KNOW, IF YOU HEARD WHAT HE SAID, HE SAID, IF WE HAD ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE BUILDING AND NO STUDENTS WERE IN THIS BUILDING, WE COULD MAKE ALL THESE CHANGES, BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE STUDENTS IN THE BUILDING AND WHERE DO THEY GO WHEN WE GET TO DO ALL OF THESE CHANGES?
>> THEY THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO START BUILDING IN MAY AND BE DONE IN AUGUST.
>> TREYLA, I WOULD LOVE TO DO.
ISN'T THAT HOW IT WORKS? IT'S DONE, WE'VE GOT THIS.
ONE CAVEAT TO THAT IS THAT YOU STILL NEED TO KEEP STUDENTS IN SCHOOL AND KEEP THEM IN THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU'RE IN OR FIND A WAY TO KEEP THEM ON THE PATH TO BEING EDUCATED.
WE LOOKED, WHAT IF RENOVATION IS PHASED? WE DO A LOT OF PHASE RENOVATIONS, IT HAS TO HAPPEN A LOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PLACES FOR STUDENTS TO GO WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE RENOVATIONS TO THE SPACE THEY'RE IN.
WE DID SOME HYPOTHETICAL, YOU'LL SEE A FLOOR PLAN HERE AND YOU'LL SEE IT UP HERE ON YOUR SCREEN, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THAT THIS IS THE SOLUTION WE'RE SAYING.
WE WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW THIS COULD GO WHEN IT COULD BE A PHASED PROJECT.
>> IS THIS A PARTICULAR SCHOOL OR IS THIS JUST?
>> THIS IS EAST AS A BACKGROUND BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEE IT, YOU'LL GO, I THINK I KNOW THAT BUILDING, BUT I DON'T, BUT WE DID NOT DO THIS AS A SPECIFIC.
>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT SCHOOL.
>> IT IS ONE OF YOUR BUILDINGS.
>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT BUILDING.
>> YES. IT IS YOUR BUILDING, BUT HOW CAN WE HYPOTHETICALLY DO THIS IF IT WAS SPACED? WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT LEE DISCUSSED COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN.
AS YOU SEE ON ONE FLOOR, PHASE 1 COULD BE CLASSROOMS, BUT WHILE THAT PHASE IS HAPPENING, WE'RE GOING TO BE NEEDING TO BE SHIFTING STUDENTS EITHER TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR CLASSROOM WORK OR SHARING SPACES THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.
AS ONE PHASE IS DONE, ANOTHER PHASE COULD COME ON AND SHIFT SPACES, SO THEN ALL STUDENTS GO INTO A NEW SPACE THAT'S RENOVATED, WHILE THE SECOND SPACE IS DONE ON THE ADDITIONAL LEVEL.
WE ALL KNOW SUMMER SLAM, SO MAY TO AUGUST, WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT WINDOW TO GET WORK DONE, BUT YOU MAKE THAT PLAN.
MOST SCHOOLS HAVE A SUMMER SLAM SCHEDULE OF WHAT GETS DONE.
YOU COULD TAKE OVER ALL COMMON SPACES AND BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THAT PHASE.
WE START LOOKING AT HOW ADDITIONAL PIECES COULD BE ADDED INTO THAT WHERE MAYBE STUDENTS AREN'T BACK YET OR YOU'RE WORKING ON SPACES WHILE THEY'RE USING ADDITIONAL AREAS.
THEN WE ALSO THEN START LOOKING AT THE NEXT SUMMER.
HOW CAN WE START PIECING THIS SO THAT IT CAUSES THE LEAST DISRUPTION? BUT WE ALL KNOW, SEEING THESE BIG CHUNKS OF SPACE CAUSE DISRUPTION.
WHEN WE START THINKING ABOUT HOW PHASING WORKS, WE START THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR A PROJECT ISN'T DONE IN THAT YEAR.
INFLATION, ECONOMY OF SCALE BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING ON SMALLER BYTES, SO WE CAN'T HAVE A FULL BID PROJECT TO GET MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE COVERED, AND WE ALSO HAVE REPEATED COSTS.
EVERY TIME A CONSTRUCTION CREW HAS TO MOBILIZE, EVERY TIME WE NEED TO GET BOND AND INSURANCE FOR THAT PROJECT.
IT ALL STARTS ADDING UP, SO WE START LOOKING AT WHAT'S WORTH IT? IS IT WORTH IT DOING IT ALL IN ONE PHASE? IS IT WORTH IT PHASING IT OUT AND TRYING TO KEEP SOME SEMBLANCE OF SCHOOL GOING ON? WHEN WE PUT THOSE NUMBERS AND THOSE ESTIMATES WE HAVE INTO AN ACTUAL PROJECT, SAY, THIS IS OUR HYPOTHETICAL PHASING EXAMPLE, A $10 MILLION PROJECT, WE START PUTTING ON A 4% ANNUAL INFLATION FEE, WE PUT ON A 50% ECONOMY OF SCALE DUE TO THAT ECONOMY AND THE SCALE YOU'RE NOT WORKING WITH WHEN YOU DO THE ENTIRE PROJECT AS ONE, AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT THAT 10% EVERY TIME A PROJECT HAS NEW SOFT COSTS TO BEGIN A PROJECT AND THE INEFFICIENCIES OF REMOBILIZATION AND STARTING ANOTHER PROJECT FROM FEES AND PERMITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES INTO THAT PROJECT.
A PROJECT THAT WOULD START AT $10 MILLION COULD QUICKLY GET UP TO ABOUT 14.2 WITH THAT ESCALATION OF PHASING THAT PROJECT OUT.
NOW, ALL OF THIS MONETARY, IT'S EASY TO THINK THROUGH.
WE CAN JUSTIFY SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT AREN'T TIED TO MONEY, WHAT THINGS ARE WE THINKING ABOUT FOR OUR STUDENTS? HOW ARE THOSE DISRUPTIONS WORKING? HOW ABOUT LEARNING LOSS OF MOVING STUDENTS AROUND THE BUILDING? WHAT ABOUT TRANSITION TIMES WHEN WE'RE ALL ON ONE FLOOR VERSUS ALL WORKING OUT OF A SMALLER AREA TOGETHER? WELL BEING IS A HUGE THING IN FACULTY.
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THAT'S A HUGE THING LIVING IN A RENOVATION OVER 2, 03, 4 YEARS, AS WELL AS FOR THE STUDENTS.SOME STUDENTS IN A RENOVATION MAY NOT SEE A NORMAL BUILDING THEIR ENTIRE HIGH SCHOOL CAREER IF YOU'RE STRETCHING OUT OVER FOUR YEARS.
SOME OF THAT GOES BACK TO LOSS OF TRADITIONS.
WHAT HAVE THEY TYPICALLY GOTTEN TO DO IN THEIR SCHOOLS THAT NOW MAY BE DISRUPTED OVER THE COURSE OF A RENOVATION? BUT I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW, THOUGH, THAT PHASING IS USUALLY ONE OF OUR BEST OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE PROJECTS, BUT WHAT ALL GOES INTO THAT AS AN OPTION?
>> IF YOU HAVE A BID AND YOU LOCK IN THOSE NUMBERS, THAT LOCK IN IS YOU'RE ONLY BIDDING FOR THAT PHASE OF THE PROJECT, YOU'RE NOT BIDDING FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT?
>> IT DEPENDS HOW YOU WANT TO SET IT UP.
YOU COULD SET IT UP AS ONE WHOLE PROJECT, BUT YOU WOULD GET THOSE INEFFICIENCIES THE BIDDER IS GOING TO PUT ON THERE.
BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT ORDER ALL THEIR MATERIALS, DO ALL OF IT IN THE SAME SEASON.
YOU WOULD HAVE A PAINTER COME IN THE FIRST SEASON TO DO THAT WORK.
HE'S GOT TO SEND THEM OFF SITE AND HE'S NOT GOING TO BRING THEM BACK FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ESCALATION ON THERE TOO TO COME BACK A YEAR LATER OR ANOTHER SUMMER LATER.
ALL OF IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT EFFICIENCY GAME OF WHAT CAN BE DONE IN A SCHEDULE VERSUS IN AND OUT OF TIME FRAMES.
>> STILL, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO COVER THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT INFLATION IS GOING TO DO EITHER, OR YOU COULD BIT IT OUT PER PHASE, EITHER ONE.
THAT'S WHERE THAT MOBILIZATION, ALL THOSE SOFT COSTS COME BACK IN AGAIN, SO NOW YOU'RE DOING ALL THAT EFFORT AND THE LEGAL WORK AND ALL THAT AGAIN.
>> YEAH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO AVOID IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE SAID IT, BUT THAT COULD BE A THREE-AND-A-HALF, FOUR-YEAR PROCESS TO JUST GET THROUGH ONE SCHOOL BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE.
I'M WORKING ON ONE THAT'S NOT THAT LARGE AND WE'RE ALREADY ON YEAR TWO-AND-A-HALF, SO A SCHOOL THIS SIZE IS EASY.
WE DID THAT EXERCISE WITH NO INPUT FROM THE TEACHERS.
THEY'RE PROBABLY THINKING, THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GETTING ALL THOSE ROOMS UP TO ANOTHER SPOT. WE UNDERSTAND.
THERE COULD BE THREE PHASES IN THAT SCHOOL.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SHOW [INAUDIBLE].
>> THEN WE WANTED TO LOOK AT, WHAT DO WE DO IF WE JUST REPLACE THESE? WE DID NOT TAKE ANY ONE OF THEM SPECIFICALLY.
WE JUST PUT UP HERE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF WHAT A ONE FOR ONE FACILITY WOULD BE AT YOUR CURRENT LEVEL.
IF YOU LOOK AT A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHAT YOUR CURRENT STANDARDS ARE.
YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT OF THOSE HERE RECENTLY.
YOU'RE PROBABLY AROUND THAT 34-38 MILLION DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, DEPENDING WHAT WE DO WITH RIVERSIDE, AND IF WE MAKE A BIGGER SCHOOL, STUFF LIKE THAT.
MIDDLE SCHOOL START TO RUN YOU 90-100 DEPENDING ON WHAT'S IN THERE.
THAT A LOT OF THAT STARTS TO FACTOR IN WHAT'S AN AUDITORIUM LOOK LIKE, HOW MANY GYMS. IT'S THOSE EXPENSIVE SPACES THAT REALLY START TO MOVE THAT PRICE UP, AND THEY'RE JUST BIGGER SCHOOLS.
YOU'VE GOT MORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS VERSUS NOW YOU'RE BRINGING MULTIPLES TOGETHER HERE.
THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR HIGH SCHOOLS THAT CAN BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 120-135 MILLION.
AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THE SPECIALTY ITEMS THAT GO INTO THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS.
MULTIPLE BASKETBALL COURTS AND BIGGER AUDITORIUMS AND FACTS LABS AND SCIENCE LABS, ALL THAT STUFF.
>> PARKING LOTS. THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, LET'S JUST REPLACE SOME OF THOSE SCHOOLS.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THEN IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO WHAT IT COSTS TO RENOVATE IT, WHAT ARE WE GETTING FROM THOSE?
>> LET'S SAY THAT [INAUDIBLE] AT ALL ONE TIME, WE CAN FIX UP A HIGH SCHOOL PERFECTLY, FIX EVERYTHING THERE.
HOW MANY YEARS IS THAT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR?
>> HOW MUCH MORE LIFE CAN YOU GET?
>> COULD YOU GET ANOTHER 50 YEARS OUT OF IT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING?
CAN WE GET ANOTHER 50 YEARS OUT OF IT?
>> IF WE WERE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS AND GET IT TO BE LIKE ALMOST A BRAND NEW BUILDING, I GUESS IF YOU ALLOW US TO PUT THE ADDITIONS ON AND GET IT SET UP, YOU COULD PROBABLY GET, I DON'T KNOW, ANOTHER 25 YEARS, MAYBE.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON GROWTH. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DO A DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY OF WHAT DOES GROWTH LOOK LIKE, BUT THEORETICALLY, IF YOU REPLACE EVERYTHING, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANOTHER LIFESPAN OF A BUILDING.
>> WOULD IT TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO BUILD NEW VERSUS DO WHAT DIRECTOR MICHAELSON WAS TALKING ABOUT?
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>> TO RENOVATE FULLY VERSUS BUILD NEW?
>> YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE TIME IN THE RENOVATION.
>> OR DO YOU SAY IF WE COULD RENOVATE IT, WE COULD GET THE WHOLE SCHOOL TO OURSELVES, YOU COULD PROBABLY DO IT IN 18-24 MONTHS.
>> IF YOU COULD EMPTY OUT THE ENTIRE BUILDING, THEN IT MIGHT BE MORE COMPARABLE TO A NEW BUILD, BUT IF YOU'RE PHASING, NO.
>> JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE ENDED UP RUNNING THE TORNADO RECOVERY DOWN A JOPLIN, MISSOURI.
IN THAT CASE, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING, THE DEMOLITION WAS NOT AN ISSUE SINCE THE TORNADO HAD DONE THAT.
FOR, I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS ONE OR TWO YEARS, WHATEVER, THE SCHOOL, THE STAFF, THE STUDENTS WAS RELOCATED TO A MALL.
A SPACE IN THE MALL WAS REDONE.
IS THAT THING POSSIBLE IN IOWA?
>> IF THERE'S SPACE AVAILABLE.
>> YEAH, I'D SAY, IF THERE'S SPACE.
>> I'VE HEARD RUMORS THAT THERE'S SOME RETAIL SPACE AVAILABLE HERE AND THERE, BUT WE'LL LEAVE THAT FOR NOW.
>> THOSE ALL COME WITH THEIR OWN CAVEAT OF MAKING SURE IT'S UP TO AN E OCCUPANCY CODE.
YOU'D HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT WITH THE CODE OFFICIALS, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
THERE'D DEFINITELY PROBABLY BE MONEY PUT INTO THAT TO MAKE THAT WORK WHEREVER THAT REAL ESTATE WOULD BE.
>> GOOD QUESTIONS. I THINK WE CAN SAVE SOME OF THAT DIALOGUE MAYBE.
THAT'S THE BRAINSTORMING THAT WE WANT TO HEAR.
WHAT WE WANTED TO DO THOUGH IS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE BECAUSE YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY, COMPETE WITH OTHER SCHOOLS YOUR SAME SIZE, A LITTLE BIGGER, SOME A LITTLE SMALLER.
WE JUST PUT UP YOUR STATISTICS, AND THEN WE WENT AROUND AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT ARE OTHER DISTRICTS DOING OF SIMILAR REALLY.
WHO YOU GUYS PLAY IN SPORTS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
YOU CAN SEE YOU GOT YOUR SCHOOL NAME, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THEN HOW MANY EACH ONE OF THOSE FACILITY HOLDS, YOUR ENROLLMENT.
WHAT GRADE LEVELS IT SERVES, AND THEN WHAT YOUR CLASS AVERAGE, AND THEN YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR BUILDING.
THEN THE SQUARE FOOT PER PERSON IS AN INTERESTING STATISTIC TO BE LOOKING AT.
YOU RANGE BETWEEN 160 TO ABOUT 200 SQUARE FEET PER KID WHEN WE COME TO THINK ABOUT HOW TIGHT ARE WE IN OUR FACILITIES.
THOSE ARE JUST AVERAGES THERE.
THE FIRST ONE THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS SOUTHEAST POLK.
I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT THIS UP THERE LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONES.
IT'S JUST PURELY A COMPARISON AS TO WHAT ARE OTHERS DOING.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE TWO FACILITIES AND ONE IS A 10-12 FACILITY, AND ONE IS AN EIGHTH GRADE THROUGH TO NINTH GRADE FACILITY.
THEN YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT THAT OTHER SQUARE FOOT PER KID.
THEY'VE GOT 250 TO ABOUT 180 SQUARE FEET.
THEY'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM, AND THEY'RE JUST AN INTERESTING WAY OF HOW THEY'RE DIVIDING UP THEIR KIDS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UNIQUE THING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOING ON IN EACH ONE OF YOUR HIGH SCHOOLS IS YOU HAVE THE FRESHMAN ACADEMY, WHERE YOU ARE ALREADY ISOLATING, THAT'S A BAD WORD, YOU'RE ALREADY BREAKING OFF THE FRESHMAN TO HELP THEM TRANSITION INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL INTO THEIR OWN AREAS WITHIN EACH ONE OF THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS.
YOU'RE DOING THIS ON A MINI SCALE.
YOU'RE HOLDING THEM OFF TO THE SIDE SIMILAR TO WHAT THESE GUYS DO.
THEY'RE JUST DOING IT IN A SEPARATE BUILDING.
ANOTHER ONE HERE IS THE VALLEY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN WEST DES MOINES.
AGAIN, SO THEY HAVE THAT NINTH GRADE ACADEMY OR THAT NINTH GRADE FACILITY THAT HOLDS ABOUT THAT 680 KIDS, AND THEN THEY HAVE A 10-12 FACILITY AROUND THE 730 MARK.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT. IT'S ABOUT 210-240 SQUARE FEET PER KID.
NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN SKEW THAT NUMBER.
THEY COULD HAVE A LOT OF GYM SPACE, THEY HAVE A REALLY MASSIVE AUDITORIUM.
WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THEIR PLANS.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S ALL UNDERNEATH THAT ROOF, BUT WE DID THE BEST WE COULD.
ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE THE ANKENY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THEY'VE GOT MULTIPLE BUILDINGS HERE BUT AGAIN, THE SAME BREAKDOWN OF 10-12, 8-9, 10-12, 8-9 IN EACH ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES.
THEY'RE UP THERE IN THE 220-240 MARK PER KID ALL THE WAY UP TO ALMOST 285 THERE.
>> THEN YOU HAVE YOUR WAUKEE DOWN THERE IN THE COMMUNITY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AGAIN, YOU GOT 10-12, 09, 10-12, 9, AND THEN ABOUT 212 ALL THE WAY UP TO 375 THERE, ROUGHLY THERE 374.
THERE'S AN INTERESTING PATTERN WHAT THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE DOING SIMILAR SIZE, HOW THEY'RE BREAKING UP THEIR KIDS, AND HOW THEY'RE MOVING THEM AROUND, WHEREAS YOU GUYS HAVE ALL FOUR GRADES.
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SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO, BUT HOW DO WE MOVE KIDS AROUND TO GAIN SPACE?>> AS YOU LOOKED AT THESE, I NOTICED THAT WAUKEE AND ANKENY THAT HAVE MULTIPLE HIGH SCHOOLS, ALSO HAVE THOSE MULTIPLE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
ARE THEY LOGISTICALLY OR GEOGRAPHICALLY CO-LOCATED OR CLOSE BY? I'M THINKING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EAST MIDDLE AND EAST HIGH VERSUS NORTH MIDDLE AND NORTH HIGH OR WEST MIDDLE AND WEST HIGH.
DO YOU KNOW GEOGRAPHICALLY HOW CLOSE THOSE ARE?
>> REMEMBER, THEY RANGE SIMILAR TO SIOUX CITY DOES.
>> DEPENDING ON WHICH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ANKENY'S, ONE SIDE OF TOWN WAS VERY MUCH LIKE NORTH.
>> WHERE THE SIDE OF TOWN WAS MORE LIKE EAST, WHERE YOU GUYS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> AT A FEW BLOCKS IN BETWEEN.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY CALL THEIR EIGHTH, NINTH, THEIR MIDDLE SCHOOL.
>> WHERE YOU GUYS ARE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SIXTH GRADE YOURSELF.
>> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUSH ONE THING THERE OR THE OTHER, BUT IT'S JUST MAYBE THAT'S A WAY WE CAN TRY TO SOLVE SOME SPACE.
CAN WE MOVE AND REORGANIZE OUR SCHOOLS AND TO LOOK AT THAT.
MAYBE WE'RE NOT BUILDING A WHOLE THIS ONE, MAYBE WE'RE JUST DOING ONE OF THESE, WE'RE BRINGING A FRESHMAN ACADEMY TOGETHER OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY DOING, YOU'RE ALREADY MOVING 2,600 KIDS AROUND IN A DAY.
THIS MOVING AND THIS BRINGING A BUNCH OF STUDENTS TOGETHER OF DIFFERENT LEVELS, ISN'T NEW TO SIOUX CITY.
I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT WE FORGET ABOUT OUR KIDS CAN'T DO THIS.
>> THAT WAS THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I'VE HAD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE COMING LATER IN THE CONVERSATION.
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OTHER CITIES THAT DO MAGNET SCHOOLS WHERE EACH HIGH SCHOOL HAS AN IDENTITY? THAT'S THE FINE ARTS HIGH SCHOOL.
THAT'S THE STEM HIGH SCHOOL, WHATEVER IT IS.
WHERE NOT EVERYTHING IS DUPLICATED AT EVERY HIGH SCHOOL.
>> NOW, WE DIDN'T GO THAT BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I'M SURE WE CAN LOOK INTO MORE IF.
>> YOU MEAN WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH YOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING CINDY? EACH ONE HAS A FOCUS?
>> RIGHT, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE DUPLICATING AUDITORIUMS AT EVERY BUILDING.
YOU WOULDN'T BE DUPLICATING NECESSARILY CAREER TECH AT EVERY BUILDING.
SCIENCE LABS MIGHT BE MORE ROBUST IN THE STEM BUILDING THAN THEY ARE IN OTHER BUILDINGS, WHERE KIDS OR THEIR PARENTS IDENTIFY TRACK.
I THINK THE SAME THING ABOUT ATHLETICS FACILITIES, ARE THERE SOME ATHLETICS THAT HAVE LOWER ENROLLMENT THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING THREE TENNIS COURTS? WHAT'S THE ENROLLMENT IN TENNIS? THOSE ARE THINGS I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO TALK ABOUT.
>> ANGEL, I'M SURE EACH SCHOOL HAS TO OFFER A CERTAIN CURRICULUM THOUGH. [OVERLAPPING]
>> EACH, AND I KNOW THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
>> IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T LOOKED TO DO.
WE'RE IN OUR SECOND YEAR OF THE SPECIALTY REVIEW OF OUR SPECIALTY ELEMENTARY, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
I THINK THAT INFORMATION MIGHT HELP GUIDE SOME OF THIS BECAUSE THERE WE TOOK TEACHER INPUT, COMMUNITY INPUT, PARENT INPUT, OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK THAT WILL HELP GUIDE THAT IN REGRESS.
>> I THINK THE BIGGEST QUESTION THOUGH WE HAD WHEN WE DID ALL OF THIS, BECAUSE TODAY, IT MAY HAVE FELT LIKE DRINKING OUT OF FIRE-HOSE, BUT WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THESE THINGS AND THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND DO YOU RENOVATE? DO YOU REPLACE? BUT WHAT IF THERE'S BIGGER? WHAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT OUT THERE BECAUSE NOW IS REALLY THAT TIME.
YOU HAVE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT YOU'RE AT THAT APEX WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, 'WHAT DO WE DO? WHERE DO WE GO WITH THIS?'.
I THINK IT COMES BACK TO A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT WE CHALLENGE OURSELVES WITH, LEARNING MORE ABOUT YOU GUYS AND HEARING FROM YOUR PRINCIPALS AND READING YOUR MISSION AND WHAT GOES INTO IT, BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A DESTINATION DISTRICT? WE'VE HEARD THAT MANY TIMES.
WE KNOW WHEN YOU MOVE TO A NEW TOWN, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SCHOOLS.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THERE, WHAT'S VIABLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE SCHOOL IS THE HEARTBEAT OF A COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU COME TO SIOUX CITY, DO YOU FEEL THAT? DO YOU SEE THAT WHEN YOU GO TO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS? WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A DESTINATION DISTRICT? HOW CAN WE BE ONE COMMUNITY? WHEN YOU SAY, 'I'M FROM SIOUX CITY', THEN YOU START BOILING DOWN, WHERE ARE YOU NORTH, EAST, WEST? WHAT ARE YOU? ARE YOU SIOUX CITY OR ARE YOU ONE OF THESE SPECIALTIES? HOW CAN WE LEAD IN CHANGING THE WORLD? HOW DO OUR STUDENTS CHANGE? SHOULD THEIR BUILDINGS REFLECT THAT CHANGE THAT WE WANT THEM TO PUT OUT IN THE WORLD?
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WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT NOW.HOW CAN WE EMBRACE THE DIVERSITY? LIKE YOU JUST SAID, WHAT IF WE HAVE STUDENTS THAT ARE ONLY DOWN THAT FINE ARTS PATH OR DOWN THAT ATHLETIC PATH OR DOWN THE STEM FIELD, HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS WORK FOR THEM AND FIND WHAT GETS THEM CLICKING? BECAUSE WE KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THAT AT THE CAREER ACADEMY, YOU'RE LIKE, 'THIS JUST WORKS'.
A STUDENT WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE EVER WANTED TO BE IN SCHOOL, NOW LOVES WHAT THEY DO ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS.
WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CHALLENGE OUR STUDENTS? WHAT PUSHES THEM IN OUR WORLD IN OUR COMMUNITY AND BUILDS OUR COMMUNITY EVEN BIGGER? THEN HOW CAN WE EMPOWER OUR STAFF? HOW DO THEY GET EXCITED TO TEACH? BECAUSE WE KNOW IF THEY'RE TEACHING SOMETHING THAT THEY LOVE TEACHING, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME ACROSS A LOT BETTER THAN HAVING A CLASSROOM OF STUDENTS THAT THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE DAY AND GET THROUGH THAT BLOCK. HOW DO I GET THEM THROUGH HERE? HOW DO I REACH THEM? THEN HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE OUR RESOURCES? BECAUSE IF WE KEEP TRIPLICATING THINGS, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME THING.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE IN 50 YEARS, AND YOU GUYS WON'T BE MAKING THAT DECISION EITHER.
IN 50 YEARS, ARE THEY GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SAME THING AND GO, 'WE DID NEW HIGH SCHOOLS IN 2026-2035, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN'.
WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW TO MAXIMIZE THOSE RESOURCES AND MAKE THE BEST DECISION MOVING FORWARD? THEN HOW CAN WE EMBRACE CHANGE? BECAUSE CHANGE ISN'T ALWAYS EASY, BUT IT'S INEVITABLE, AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS DEFINITELY ISN'T SOMETHING WE PROBABLY THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE, BUT HOW CAN WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS POINT? WHAT IS THAT PATH WE'RE GOING TO TAKE?
>> ALRIGHT. AS THE TEAM CAME TOGETHER AND BROUGHT ALL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER, WE REALLY HAD TO JUST BRAINSTORM AND I REALLY CHALLENGE THEM THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, THINK OF OPPORTUNITIES.
HOW CAN WE BEST SERVE ALL OF OUR STUDENTS AND GIVE THEM THE BEST OPPORTUNITY? SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS IS WE'VE LAID OUT A ROADMAP.
THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS ROADMAP IS MOST ROADS YOU'RE ON, THEY'RE ALREADY PREDETERMINED, YOU GO ONE DIRECTION AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GO.
WE'RE NOT AT A STAGE WHERE THERE'S ANY DECISIONS MADE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OR OPEN UP DIALOGUE THAT WE CAN GET SOME INPUT FROM THE BOARD BECAUSE YOU WILL BE GUIDING US AND INSTRUCTING US ON THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE FUTURE OF WHAT THESE RENOVATIONS LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE SCHOOL LOOKS LIKE.
NEXT STEPS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS ON THIS ROADMAP.
DO WE RENOVATE THE HIGH SCHOOLS? DO WE GO AND LOOK AT THREE RENOVATIONS? I THINK THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB TODAY, COURTNEY AND LEE, AT DESCRIBING THE PHASING PROCESS.
I HAD 15 YEARS IN HEALTHCARE WHERE WE PHASED CONSTANTLY, AND I CAN TELL YOU PEOPLE THEY GET REALLY TIRED OF HEARING RENOVATION GOING ON.
AS THEY MENTIONED, IT WILL BE SOMEONE THAT MISSES THEIR SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL GAME ON THAT COURT BECAUSE IT'S BEING RENOVATED.
THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT OVER AND OVER, BUT EVERYTHING IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS IS GOING TO NEED TO BE RENOVATED.
FROM THE GYMS TO EVERY PART OF THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO COMPLETE RENOVATION.
DO WE IMPLEMENT SCHOOL REPLACEMENTS? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
DO WE BUILD THREE DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOLS? IF WE BUILD THREE DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOLS, CAN WE DO IT ON THE LOTS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY ON? CAN WE USE THE PROPERTY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE? THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT, BUT THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS FOR OPTIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
DO WE JUST SKIP RIGHT TO THE OLD STRATEGIC PLAN AND JUST FINISH OFF THE LAST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT WE HAVE, NODLAND AND SUNNYSIDE.
I ALSO WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF WE THINK ABOUT THAT OPTION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT SOME LAND CONSIDERATIONS.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS SUNNYSIDE ELEMENTARY SITE.
I THINK THE CHALLENGE WILL BE BUILDING ON THAT SITE AND OPERATING THE SCHOOL.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO MOVE THOSE STUDENTS.
WE'LL BE RENOVATING OR BUILDING A NEW SCHOOL IN THE PLAYGROUND, THEY WOULD LOSE ALL OF THAT.
I'M FRANKLY JUST NOT SURE IF IT'S BIG ENOUGH FOR THAT SPOT TO BUILD ON ANYWAY.
THEN DO WE REALLY THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX? AS WE LOOK AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS, DO WE DEVELOP A CAMPUS SETTING WHERE IT'S GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALWAYS GROW.
IF THINGS GROW ON THIS CAMPUS, THEN YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT THE ABILITY TO GROW.
I'VE SEEN SEVERAL HIGH SCHOOLS THAT ARE BUILT LIKE MANY COLLEGES WHERE YOU'VE GOT A SCIENCE BUILDING, YOU'VE GOT AN ARTS BUILDING.
GOING BACK TO WHAT DR. HANSON SAID IS, CAN YOU SPECIALIZE IN THESE AREAS? DO WE HAVE TWO SCHOOL CAMPUSES? WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS OUR BRAINSTORM FOR THE FUTURE? I THINK CONSOLIDATION HAS SOME OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE AS THEY TALKED ABOUT TRIPLICATE IN BUILDING THESE, DO WE CONSOLIDATE ATHLETIC COMPLEXES? DO WE HAVE AN ATHLETIC COMPLEX WHERE ALL THE STUDENTS GET TO PLAY ON? WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TURF, BUT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS PLAY ON TURF.
ALL OF OUR STUDENTS PLAY ON THE BEST TENNIS COURTS.
ALL OF OUR STUDENTS PLAY ON WHATEVER THOSE FIELDS LOOK LIKE.
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DOES CONSOLIDATION COME INTO THAT? WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR STUDENTS? WE'VE HAD SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT THIS, AND WE WANT TO BRING THESE ROGUE THOUGHTS TO YOU TO CONSIDER AND TO THINK ABOUT AND SEE IF THOSE ARE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU'D WANT US TO EXPLORE.THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE MASTER PLAN IS TO HAVE DIALOGUE, GET INPUT BACK FROM THE BOARD SO THAT WE CAN LEAD THIS TEAM TO WHAT OUR NEXT OPPORTUNITIES IS GOING TO BE, WHAT OUR NEXT PATHWAY IS GOING TO BE AND START DEVELOPING.
ONE THING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN A REALLY GOOD WINDOW WITH CONSTRUCTION.
YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION BIDS THAT WE'VE COME FORWARD WITH HAVE PRETTY COMPETITIVE.
I THINK WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO BID SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND TO GET THE MOST FOR A DOLLAR.
WITH THAT, THAT IS THE REAL HIGH LEVEL OVERLOOK OF THE MASTER PLAN.
I WOULD INVITE ANYBODY THAT IF YOU HAVE THAT IN-DEPTH QUESTION THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND TIME ON, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE MORE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ABOUT THE SPECIFIC SCHOOLS.
WE DID GO THROUGH ALL THE SCHOOLS, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY.
WE DID GO THROUGH ALL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND JUST SPEND THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME AT HUNT BECAUSE IT'S NEW.
WE DIDN'T NEED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME THERE. WHAT COULD WE DO THERE? IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES? WE DID GO THROUGH ALL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND REALLY EVERYTHING THERE WAS MINIMAL, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT WE BROUGHT FOR YOU TODAY THAT WE CAN JUST HANDLE ON OUR OWN OPERATING PROCEDURES.
>> I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN FOR NON LIMITS. I DON'T KNOW [INAUDIBLE]
>> HELP ME UNDERSTAND. THE STRATEGIC PLAN ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> SHE SAID FINISH THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
>> SORRY. THE OLD MASTER PLAN?
>> TROY HELPED ME OUT HERE WITH THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE AROUND DURING THAT TIME FRAME, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RENOVATE ALL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS INITIALLY AND REPLACE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
>> THERE'S NO FORMALIZED PLAN.
>> IT'S JUST THE LAST THREE THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED [OVERLAPPING].
>> OTHERWISE, EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO SPEED. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE TOUCHED ON THAT I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT BUYING THAT PROPERTY TO COMBINE THOSE TWO NODLAND AND SUNNYSIDE TOGETHER.
>> THAT WAS PRE-MEETING [INAUDIBLE]
>> I GUESS I'M JUST THINKING HERE.
DEPENDING UPON WHAT WE DO, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE OTHER BUILDINGS IF YOU DECIDE TO GO TO A CENTRAL CAMPUS OF SORTS? WHAT BECOMES OF THOSE BUILDINGS? THE OTHER THING IS, I LOVE ANSWERING QUESTIONS HERE SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A DESTINATION DISTRICT TO COMPETE IN ALL ASPECTS OF ACADEMICS, ATHLETICS, FINE ARTS, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, WHERE AT THE SAME TIME OUR CLASS SIZES ARE SHRINKING? IT'S LIKE THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE BUILD.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS, HOW DO YOU SELL IT TO THE COMMUNITY ON THE FUTURE IMAGE OF WHAT THE DISTRICT LOOKS LIKE? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, NOTHING GETS DONE UNLESS YOU GET THE MONEY TO DO IT.
I'M LOOKING AT YOUR ESTIMATED COST, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INCLUDED A CAMPUS, BUT IS IT LIKE A NEW CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL? WAS YOUR NUMBER 135? I THINK THAT WAS YOUR TOP.
WAS THAT JUST FOR COMBINING ALL THREE?
>> WE DID NOT PRICE OUT A CENTRAL CAMPUS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU WANTED TO FEEDBACK BEFORE WE LEFT OUT [OVERLAPPING]. [LAUGHTER].
>> THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COST OF RENOVATION, AND I'M JUST TALKING TO HIGH SCHOOLS AND I JUST TOOK THE HIGH NUMBERS, BUT ROUGHLY $170 MILLION JUST ON THAT.
IF I'M RIGHT, MAYBE TROY OR YOU CAN ANSWER THIS, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY BUILT REALLY THE SCIENCE WINGS OF STANDALONES.
>> BECAUSE IF THEY CAN USE THE SHARED WALL, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO BRING THE HIGH SCHOOLS UP TO CODE.
>> SIGN WINGS ARE ATTACHED TO THE SCHOOLS.
>> THERE'S SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S TWO WALLS. BECAUSE I TAUGHT AT WEST AT THE TIME AND ONE OF THE REASONS THEY GAVE US WAS THEY'D HAVE TO START BRINGING THE HIGH SCHOOLS UP TO 2000 CODES OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
THAT WOULD COST THE MONEY RIGHT THERE.
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>> ANY FUTURE ADDITION WOULD ALSO BE THE SAME.
>> RIGHT. OF COURSE, WE'RE TALKING EDUCATION IS A DIFFERENT CONCEPT NOW.
I MEAN, IT'S A DIFFERENT VISION.
WHEN THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS WERE BUILT, THEY HAD THIS COLLEGE LIKE ATMOSPHERE.
THAT'S WHY YOU HAD COLLAPSIBLE WALLS, SO YOU COULD HAVE A LECTURE CLASS, A CLASS OF 50, 60 KIDS, WHICH MIGHT BE DRIVING MORE TEACHERS OUT BY NOW IF WE STAYED WITH THAT DEAL.
[LAUGHTER] I MEAN, IF YOU GET UP IN THERE, THERE'S TRACKS AND STUFF THAT THEY COULD COLLAPSE.
>> IT WAS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION THAT IS STILL IN USE.
>> IT WAS AN OPEN CONCEPT WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY CORRECT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. YES, YOU DEFINITELY GAVE US THE FIRE-HOSE VERSION OF EVERYTHING THERE.
I MEAN, WITH THE ELEMENTARY BUILDINGS, WE HAVE THREE THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS, I THINK.
LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S TOMATO TOMATO WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
I THANK YOU FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU GUYS PUT IN ON THIS.
WHO THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING FLAT ROOFS IN IOWA AND RUNNING PIPES ON THE ROOF OVER? BECAUSE I TAUGHT AT NORTH HIGH TOO, AND THAT WAS ALWAYS A DEAL.
IT'S LIKE, HOW DO YOU GET EVERYONE DOWN THERE? AS FOR LOCKER ROOMS, MY FATHER IN LAW AND WHERE MY WIFE WENT TO SCHOOL IS A SMALL CHRISTIAN SCHOOL THERE IN PELLA, AND WHEN THEY BUILT A NEW HIGH SCHOOL, THEY SHRUNK THE LOCKER ROOMS. [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE NO ONE TAKES A SHOWER ANYMORE.
I MEAN, I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF EVERYONE HAVING THEIR OWN LITTLE AREA, BUT THAT MIGHT BE UNREALISTIC IN THIS DAY AND AGE, SO MY COMMENTS.
>> BECAUSE I'M A FINANCE GUY, I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT FINANCES.
FIRST OF ALL, I WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN WE BUILT THE SCIENCE CENTERS, AND WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT HOW THE BUILDING WOULD BE CONNECTED.
WE DID TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING TO BE SIMPLE, EASIER, QUICKER, AND THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO.
THE REASON THAT THE SCIENCE CENTERS WERE BUILT THE WAY THEY WERE WAS THAT THE BOARD HAD INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF REQUIRED SCIENCE COURSES TO TAKE, BUT PROVIDED NO MORE SPACE.
STUDENTS WERE IN THE HALLWAYS, THE STAIRWELLS, WHEREVER YOU WANTED TO BE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU REMEMBER DEWEY CHRISTENSEN.
>> DEWEY SAID THAT WHEN HE WAS FINDING NEW SCIENCE TEACHERS, NONE OF THEM WANTED TO TEACH IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
THEY ALL WANTED TO TEACH IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS BECAUSE MIDDLE SCHOOL FACILITIES WERE BETTER.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME TO SCRATCH.
GIVEN, YOUR DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEMS IN CERTAINLY THE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH PRETTY QUICKLY, I THINK YOU USED THE TERM LIVING ON BORROWED TIME.
THAT'S NOT A COMFORTING FEELING.
I THINK PERHAPS WE COULD GET AT THIS POINT, MAYBE NOT TODAY, BUT MAYBE A NEXT STEP WOULD BE THE STAFF LOOKING AT THIS, WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS THEY'D MAKE AND HOW WE START OUT.
>> I THINK WE'D REALLY JUST GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO DIGEST THIS A LITTLE BIT AND THINK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING RECOMMENDATIONS BACK AND WORK FROM THAT.
WE JUST NEED TO KNOW SOME DIRECTION.
I'M GOING TO HAVE SHANICE SEND THIS PRESENTATION OUT TO YOU SO YOU HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND READ THROUGH IT AGAIN AND TAKE YOUR TIME.
PLEASE ASK ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.
GIVE YOU A LITTLE TIME TO DIGEST IT AND THEN COME BACK AND WORK FROM THERE.
>> I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S SOUNDING ALARMIST.
IT SOUNDS LIKE DAILY WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC FINANCIALLY HAPPEN AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS. WOULD THAT BE FAIR?
>> OKAY. I GUESS WHAT I WOULD WANT TO KNOW, WHERE THAT'S CONCERNED,
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I THINK MAYBE EVERYBODY PROBABLY WANT TO KNOW TOO, IS ONCE AGAIN, TO FIX THINGS THAT COULD BE MOST LIKELY FALL APART ON US.>> SO WE DON'T DISRUPT OUR KIDS' SCHOOL YEAR AND OUR TEACHERS' SCHOOL YEAR AND TRY TO AVOID THAT FIRST AND THEN MAYBE WORK [INAUDIBLE].
>> DIRECTOR MICHAELSON, I THINK YOU JUST MADE A GREAT POINT, AND IT JUST BROUGHT MY MIND TO KINGSLEY-PIERSON, HARRIS-LAKE PARK.
I MEAN, HARRIS-LAKE PARK GOT LUCKY, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY REPLACING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
KINGSLEY, ON THE OTHER HAND, JUST AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> IT'S ONLY FUNNY BECAUSE I WAS ON THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION CREW THAT BUILT THAT BUILDING [LAUGHTER].
>> YEAH, WE'VE GOT A LOT TO THINK ABOUT.
I'M SORRY, CINDY I CUT YOU OUT.
>> YEAH, I HAD A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
I DO WANT TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DIGEST, BUT A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY COME TO MIND WITH SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
TO ME, WHEN YOU ASK WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A DESTINATION DISTRICT, IT MEANS THAT WE'RE UNIQUE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING WITH SOME OUT OF THE BOX IDEAS.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK IN THAT DIRECTION.
PERSONALLY, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TROUBLED BY THE AMOUNT OF DUPLICATION THAT HAPPENS IN PUBLIC EDUCATION.
I'M GOING TO TAKE IT A STEP FARTHER AND SAY THAT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE US TO CONSIDER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAXIMIZING OUR RESOURCES IS ALSO LOOKING TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR POST-SECONDARY PARTNERS.
IT'S THE SAME TAXPAYERS THAT PAY FOR CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION AT WESTERN IOWA TECH, THAT PAY FOR CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION AT SIOUX CITY COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.
I THINK THERE'S HUGE ROOM FOR MUCH MORE COLLABORATION, WHICH MEANS MORE ROBUST PROGRAMS AS WELL.
I THINK IF WE START GETTING DOWN THE ROAD OF LOOKING AT DOING RENOVATIONS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO WITH ONE OR MORE OF THOSE BUILDINGS, THERE COULD ALSO BE POSSIBILITY THERE OF COLLABORATING WITH THOSE FACILITIES.
YOU TALKED ABOUT USING A MALL.
WHAT ABOUT REACHING OUT TO ANY OF OUR POST-SECONDARY PARTNERS IN THE CITY TO SEE IF THEY HAVE CLASSROOM CAPACITY THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPAND OR REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PHASINGS NECESSARY, AND POSSIBLY EVEN END UP WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FULL VACANCY OF A BUILDING TO FACILITATE THAT HAPPENING FASTER AT A MUCH LOWER COST.
I TOOK YOUR YOU CALCULATED RENOVATION BUDGETS WAS ABOUT 170.
IF WE FULLY PHASE THAT OUT USING YOUR 42%, THAT MAKES IT ABOUT $240 MILLION TO FULLY PHASE THOSE OUT.
I LIKE THAT YOU'VE ADDRESSED SOME CREATIVITY, AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE MORE OF THAT.
I THINK THERE'S LOTS TO DO THERE.
I'M INTRIGUED BY THE IDEA OF A CAMPUS.
I THINK THAT VERY POSSIBLY COULD MAKE SIOUX CITY A DESTINATION DISTRICT THAT MORE PEOPLE WOULD LOOK AT.
>> ALSO, THINKING ABOUT THE ASPECT OF, NOT JUST OUR POST-SECONDARY MERGERS, BUT OUR CITY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ABSOLUTELY. NONPROFIT PARTNERS, BUSINESS PARTNERS, ALL OF THOSE, ABSOLUTELY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SOMETHING THAT REALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT AND EXPLORE THESE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE REALLY DOING SOME INNOVATIVE THINGS, THEY'RE NOT DOING IT ON THEIR OWN.
THEY'RE ENGAGING THEIR PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
LOOKING AT IT IN THOSE TERMS, WE COULD REALLY MAXIMIZE.
>> FROM WHAT I HEAR, IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE FIXED FIRST.
>> I THINK THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.
>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THAT, WE CAN BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER SESSION WITH TO BRING THIS INFORMATION AGAIN.
MY RECOMMENDATION WAS GOING TO BE THAT WE SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING, RIGHT? WHERE WE CAN BRING THIS INFORMATION.
WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED FIRST.
I DO WANT TO CARRY OUT BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY PREDICT.
SOMETIMES THEY MAY SAY SIX MONTHS, SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT SAY ANYTIME UP UNTIL THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, RIGHT? IT'S A HURDLE.
UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR ONLY CASH RESOURCE, OUR ONLY WAY TO FUND THESE PROJECTS IS THROUGH SALES TAX.
THAT NONE OF OUR GENERAL FUND CAN BE USED FOR EVEN THESE EMERGENCY PROJECTS.
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LET'S SAY, THE HBAC WENT OUT THE DOOR, WE CAN'T ACCESS OUR GENERAL FUND TO FIX THAT.I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT SALES TAX AND PEBLE ARE THE ONLY TWO FUNDING SOURCES WE HAVE.
WHAT WOULD THAT COST? WHICH WAS THE SECOND THING YOU SAID, AND THEN THE TIME, HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE IF WE REBUILT OR IF WE WERE TO RENOVATE WITH PHASES AND WITHOUT PHASES?
>> [INAUDIBLE]. I'M GOING TO USE IT. [LAUGHTER]
>> I THINK IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO BOBBY'S POINT EARLIER ABOUT WHAT IF THERE WAS A SYSTEM FAILURE, AND MAYBE YOU ALREADY HAVE IT.
IS THERE AN EMERGENCY PLAN IF WE HAD TO CLOSE ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS? ARE WE PREPARED FOR WHERE TO SEND EVERYBODY?
>> FOR WHERE TO SEND THE STUDENTS?
>> I MEAN, WE WOULD NOT HAVE A PLAN TO IF THE ENTIRE SCHOOL WAS SHUT DOWN. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT WOULD BE IN OUR CONTROL.
>> WE DO NOT HAVE ANY INFRASTRUCTURE.
THERE IS NO PLACE CURRENTLY IN SIOUX CITY THAT WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY RELOCATE TO, THAT IS VACANT CURRENTLY.
IN OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN, THEY WOULD BE MERGED THERE.
>> WITH THAT CONCEPT, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE CAMPUS, THAT IS ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF A CAMPUS, IS THAT IF THE SCIENCE BUILDING WERE TO HAVE A FLOOD, WE WOULD SHUT DOWN THE SCIENCE PORTION OF IT AND MOVE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT WOULD NOT SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
>> THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS INTRIGUING TO ME ABOUT IT AS WELL.
EVEN FUTURE RENOVATION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF THIS IS GROWING IN ONE AREA, THAT BUILDING COULD GROW AND IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> LOOK AT THE PATTERNS IN ENROLLMENT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS AND WHAT THE TREND IS AT WEST, EAST AND NORTH? ALSO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT COMMUNITIES ARE EXPANDING HOUSING?
>> BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TRENDS, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT THE TRENDS OF WHERE IS ADDITIONAL HOUSING.
>> COULD YOU ALSO ADD IN HOW MANY UVN SCHOOLS GO 10-12 AND HAVE A SEPARATE NINTH GRADE OR WHERE THEY PUT THEIR NINTH GRADE? ARE WE UNIQUE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR SIDE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF HAVING NINTH GRADE WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE UVN?
>> I'D SAY THAT THE ONES WITH THE OLDER BUILDINGS, THEY STAY REPLICATED LIKE A FRESHMAN HOUSE.
NOT ALL OF THEM NEW. [OVERLAPPING]
>> [INAUDIBLE]. THEY BUILD THEIR OWN BUILDINGS. YES.
>> JUST REMEMBER THAT THEY HAVE A HIGH PROPERTY TAX.
>> WHICH GIVES THEM ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY OF A COMMUNITY THAT IS WILLING TO HAVE BOND AND UP TO THE DOLLAR 34 VOTED ON ADDITIONAL PROPERTY.
>> SHOULD WE ASK FOR SOME INFORMATION ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SCRAPE TOGETHER WHEN? STARTING WITH SALES TAX, BEFORE WE ASSUME A BOND ISSUE, THE 60% AND GOOD BUCK.
ONE OTHER CHEERY NOTE IS THE SENATE MRS. BEMUS PUT TOGETHER A VERY GOOD SUMMARY OF THE SUGGESTIONS OF THE STATE SENATE ON WHAT THEY CALL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF THAT WOULD, I THINK, TORPEDO US DOING MUCH OF ANYTHING EXCEPT PERHAPS SPENDING MORE TIME AT PRAYER.
>> THERE YOU GO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BOARD? ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US.
[OVERLAPPING] WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, AND ONE THING THE WHOLE TEAM HAS BEEN EXCITED WHEN WE THINK ABOUT DESTINATION, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR OUR STUDENTS AND REALLY MAKE THEM PROUD OF WHERE THEY GO AND WHAT THEY HAVE.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU FURTHER IN THE FUTURE, AND WE WILL BRING THESE CONCEPTS BACK AND TALK FURTHER.
>> WHAT TIME FRAME WOULD YOU HAVE BETWEEN THIS MEETING AND THE NEXT MEETING?
>> BEFORE I ANSWER THAT, WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.
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>> TALK THROUGH THE MIC, PLEASE.
>> YEAH. BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE BUILDING, I DO WANT TO COMMEND THE DISTRICT AND THE MAINTENANCE STAFF.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WELL MAINTAINED, RIGHT? THE BUILDINGS ARE WELL MAINTAINED AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB KEEPING THE BUILDINGS.
IT'S JUST ABOUT THAT 50 YEAR MARK OF WHAT WE'RE HITTING.
WE DO LIVE IN A WORLD OF SOUND BITES, SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE THAT THE SCHOOL IS DOING GREAT JOB MAINTAINING THEIR FACILITIES.
>> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO USE OUT OF CONTEXT.
>> WHEN IT COMES TO TIME FRAME, I KNOW THAT CURRENTLY I'M WORKING ON OR YOU AND I ARE WORKING ON GETTING THE IASB TO DO A WORKSHOP WITH THE BOARD.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK IN A MONTH?
>> HOW LONG DO THEY NEED TO PULL IT BACK TOGETHER? YEAH.
>> PROBABLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'LL BE READY. TWO OR THREE WEEKS.
>> I MEAN, WE COULD BE EASILY READY IN A MONTH.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT SOUNDS LIKE AS SOON AS WE CAN GET IT TOGETHER, WE SHOULD HEAR ABOUT IT.
>> I WOULD AGREE. I WOULD SAY THAT WE PLANNED ON PRESENTING THIS IN SEPTEMBER AND IT'S JANUARY.
[LAUGHTER] CMA HAD IT DOWN LIKE THAT TO US THAT WAS LATE.
WE DO THINK THAT THERE IS QUITE SOME URGENCY.
>> YEAH. WE'RE EXCITED TO KEEP THE DISCUSSIONS GOING.
>> I THINK OUR GREATEST URGENCY IS JUST THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW WITH BIDDING AND HOW COMPETITIVE BIDS HAVE BEEN.
THE SOONER WE GET IN THAT MIX, THE BETTER IT'S GOING TO BE FOR OUR BUDGET.
>> FEBRUARY 23RD, WE HAVE A REGULAR SCHOOL BOARD MEETING THAT DAY.
OKAY. FEBRUARY 23RD, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS? THERE'S NO NAYS SO THAT'S GOOD.
>> YEAH. THIS WORK SESSION IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.