[ Board Work Session on February 23, 2026.]
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          GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026, AT 4 P.M. I NOW CALL THIS WORK SESSION TO ORDER. JANICE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. EMKE? PRESENT. 
          MR. GEORGE? PRESENT. DR. 
          HANSON? PRESENT. MS. LEE? HERE. MR. MYERS? HERE. MR. MICHELSON? HERE. MR. MILLER? KEEP GOING. I WILL NOW TURN THIS OVER TO THE PRESENTERS. 
          THANK YOU. APPRECIATE EVERYBODY MEETING US AGAIN TODAY. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING BACK SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE SINCE THE LAST MASTER PLANNING WORK SESSION THAT WE HAD. AND TODAY WE'RE HOPING TO PRESENT SOME OF THE FINDINGS THAT WE HAD BETWEEN THEN AND NOW. AND THEN REALLY OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION TO GET YOUR INPUT AND YOUR DIRECTION OF WHERE YOU WANT US TO GO WITH THIS. MOVING ON FROM HERE. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES I'M GOING TO GO OVER. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO LEE AND COURTNEY AND TANNER, AND WE'LL GET THEM TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE FINDINGS THEY FOUND. 
          WE'LL GET STARTED. SO THE LAST MEETING, FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T IN ATTENDANCE, WE TALKED ABOUT A MASTER PLAN, AND WE'LL JUST KIND OF KEEP REITERATING WHAT THE PURPOSE OF A MASTER PLAN IS, BUT IT'S A SCHOOL DISTRICT'S MASTER PLAN. 
          IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE, LONG-RANGE ROADMAP THAT GUIDES DECISIONS ABOUT THE USE OF MAINTENANCE. RENOVATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND OTHER DISTRICT FACILITIES. IT HELPS THE DISTRICT ALIGN IN PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE EDUCATIONAL GOALS, ENROLLMENT TRENDS, COMMUNITY NEEDS, AND FINANCIAL CAPACITY. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ALIGN ALL OF THOSE FOR OUR PLANNING OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. AS WE WE LOOK AT MOVING INTO THE FUTURE. AND WHAT WORK WE'RE GOING TO PERFORM ON SOME OF OUR AGING SCHOOL BUILDINGS. 
          SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO COVER TONIGHT ARE, WHAT ARE THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS. 
          ONE OF THE REQUESTS FROM THE BOARD LAST TIME WAS GIVE US WHAT'S THE URGENT NEEDS OF THE BUILDINGS AND HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THEM. ONE OF THE OTHER ONES WAS, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET ANOTHER 50 YEARS OUT OF THE CURRENT FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO REPLACE ALL THREE HIGH SCHOOLS? AND THEN TO COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE IDEAS FOR A CONSOLIDATED CAMPUS-TYPE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE A LITTLE BIT LATER. 
          SO I'M JUST GOING TO COVER SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS. SOME OF THESE ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE TRIAGED. IF WE SAID TODAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS, WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE THE MASTER PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS ON HOLD FOR A SET AMOUNT OF YEARS. DOWN THE ROAD, THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'D WANT TO LOOK AT. IF WE LOOK IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND TRIAGE SOME OF THESE REPAIRS AND SAY, HEY, LET'S NOT PUT OUR DOLLARS INTO THIS. IF WE'RE PLANNING SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR MOVING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO RENOVATE. WE MIGHT NOT PUT PIPES BACK ON THE WE MIGHT DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THAT. THESE ARE THE SAME SLIDE THAT WE SHARED LAST TIME. 
          WE GOT A LITTLE MORE INPUT ON THOSE, BUT THE NORTH HIGH ROOF PIPING, ALL THE HVAC HEATING AND COOLING DO GO ACROSS THE ROOF AT NORTH HIGH. SOME OF THAT HAS HAD CONSISTENT LEAKS OVER THE YEARS. WE HAVE REPLACED AS THEY FAILED, BUT IF THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, A SHORT-TERM GOAL OF GETTING THESE REPLACED, AND ALSO IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH LEAKS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. LIKE I SAID, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A DIFFERENT PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO TRIAGE AND REPAIR THOSE. IF IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE FOR A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, WE'LL PROBABLY LOOK AT REPLACING THOSE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, LEE? YEAH, I THINK, JUST TO ADD ON, LIKE, WHAT DO WE MEAN BY TRIAGE? YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING NOT WITH THIS BUILDING, WE'D PROBABLY NEED TO STILL DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PIPING, BUT IT'D BE A MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE SOLUTION. 
          LIKE, WE'D MAYBE USE A MORE FLEXIBLE PIPE, NOT GOING BACK IN WITH THE PIPES THAT ARE UP THERE, HARD PLUMBED, ALL THAT STUFF. SO WE WOULD. 
          WE'D FIGURE OUT HOW TO JUST KEEP IT GOING FOR ANOTHER THREE, FIVE YEARS. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SAME WITH ALL OF THEM. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS KIND OF CLARIFY, WHAT. AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A MUCH BIGGER LIST BEHIND THESE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WOULD PROBABLY KEEP THE SCHOOLS, CANCEL A DAY OF SCHOOL. THAT'S THAT LIST THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. AND JUST RUNNING THROUGH THE REST OF THEM, EAST HIGH, THE A2VAV REPLACEMENT. AND THE PIPING AT EAST HIGH, IT'S AGED. A LOT OF THE AHU, OR ALL OF THE AIR HANDLING UNITS AT EAST HIGH, ARE ORIGINAL, ALONG WITH THE VAV BOXES. THEY'RE ALL ORIGINAL TO THAT BUILDING. AND HYDRONIC PIPING AT NODLIN, THIS IS THE DOMESTIC WATER. WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF REPAIRS LATELY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS ON THE HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEMS, BUT THE DOMESTIC WATER IN THE TUNNEL WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED OVER THE SHORT TERM. PROBABLY NOT A LARGE PROJECT, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN THAT $100,000 RANGE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. AND THEN THE MEDIUM PRIORITY. PROJECTS, WEST HIGH 
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SCHOOL AIR HANDLER REPLACEMENTS, THEY'RE ALL LOCATED ON THE ROOF. I BELIEVE THEY'RE APPROACHING THAT 25 TO 30 YEAR RANGE, SO THEY'RE GETTING TOWARDS THE END OF THEIR LIFESPAN. EAST MIDDLE SCHOOL BOILERS WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'D WANT TO REPLACE, AND THEN THE AIR HANDLING UNITS AT NORTH MIDDLE SCHOOL, SAME THING, THERE ARE ROOFTOP UNITS APPROACHING THAT 25 TO 30 YEAR AGE. THE TOTAL COST FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, IS IN THAT RANGE OF $11,200,000. 
          AND THESE ARE JUST THE THINGS THAT WE NEED DIRECTION ON SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO KEEP THESE GOING, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM GOING. THE OTHER THING THAT'S NOT ON THE SLIDE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS THE ESC BUILDING. THERE ARE SOME REPAIRS. THE ESC DID NOT GET A LOT OF MASTER PLANNING LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THE EFFORT WAS REALLY SPENT ON THE SCHOOLS. 
          BUT THE ESC DOES HAVE SOME REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. 
          NOW, AS YOU LOOK AT THE ESC, IT APPEARS THAT IT'S ONE BUILDING, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TWO BUILDINGS. THE BUILDING WE'RE SITTING IN HERE WAS A SEPARATE BUILDING THAN THE ONE THAT IS, I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE JCPENNEY'S SECTION OF THE BUILDING. SO THERE'S TWO INDEPENDENT HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEMS WORKING ON THIS BUILDING. THIS BUILDING IS RAN OFF OF A GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM, AND IT IS THE ORIGINAL AGE OF. 
          IT'S PROBABLY AROUND THAT 2011, 2012 RANGE. 
          FOR THE EQUIPMENT, THE WELLS, AND ALL OF THAT NEAREST THAT I CAN TELL WHAT THE WELLS AND PUMPS ARE, THEIR ORIGINAL TO THE 1970S DESIGN. SO THERE'S SOME AGE TO THIS SYSTEM AS WELL, THAT SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE LOOKED AT. WE LOOKED AT DOWN THE ROAD THE POSSIBILITY OF TYING THE TWO BUILDINGS TOGETHER. WHEN DELTA OCCUPIED THE JCPENNEY BUILDING, THERE WAS A PLENTIFUL AMOUNT OF HEATING AND COOLING THAT WAS INSTALLED. SO WE COULD BACK FEED THIS BUILDING OFF OF THAT. WE ACTUALLY STUDIED THAT A FEW YEARS AGO AND HAVE A PLAN THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT WORK. BUT THOSE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WOULD COME DOWN THE ROAD. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A BURIED ELECTRICAL VAULT THAT IS OUTSIDE HERE ON JACKSON STREET. IN THE EARLIER YEARS, BACK WHEN THIS DOWNTOWN WAS CONSTRUCTED, ALL OF THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS WERE RUN UNDERGROUND AND THEY PUT A VAULT UNDER THEM. SO OUR TRANSFORMERS FOR THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE BURIED UNDERGROUND. IN ORDER TO REPLACE THEM, A SECTION OF CONCRETE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MIDAMERICA IS WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT WE GET THOSE OUT, GET THEM UP CURBSIDE, MAYBE TAKE OUT THE LITTLE FLOWER GARDEN THAT SITS OUT OVER HERE AND PUT IN SOME KIND OF AN ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMER LOCATION THAT WOULD FEED THIS BUILDING AND THE MUSEUM, OR THE OLD JCPENNEY BUILDING. 
          SO THOSE ARE IN ADDITION TO THE COST OF THIS. I WOULD ESTIMATE ON A LOW END, THEY'RE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE $1.5 MILLION RANGE TO $2 MILLION TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF WORK DONE. AND THE 50-YEAR RENOVATION, I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO CMBA AND LET THEM DISCUSS THE FINDINGS THAT THEY HAD OVER THE LAST SCENARIOS THAT THEY PRESENTED. 
          YES. YES. SURE. WE REALLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS, AND PATTY, JUMP IN IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE HAVE SALES TAX, THE SAVED DOLLARS THAT COME FROM THE STATE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PEPL. PEPL RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE MINIMUM AMOUNT, SO THAT MONEY IS PRETTY WELL TAKEN UP IN JUST COSTS OF, CHAD AND I PRETTY WELL SPLIT THAT BETWEEN TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AND TECHNOLOGY NEEDS, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, JUST THE PEPL, RIGHT, PATTY? THE PEPL IS A PROPERTY TAX, BUT IT'S A SMALL SLICE. 
          PHYSICAL PLANT AND EQUIPMENT LEVEL. ISN'T THERE A SLIDE THAT'S NOT GENERAL DEDICATED TO... THAT'S THE PHYSICAL PLAN, EQUIPMENT. PHYSICAL PLAN EQUIPMENT. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. 
          YES. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. 
          YES. THE TRANSFORMERS, YOU HAVE TO DIG THEM UP AND STUFF. 
          WOULD THAT BE A SHARED COST WITH THE PUBLIC MUSEUM? ON ONE OF THEM, IT WOULD BE BECAUSE THAT IS THE... THE JCPENNEY BUILDING, AS I CALLED IT A LITTLE BIT AGO, THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE FULLY ON US FOR THIS BUILDING. SO, YEAH. OUR MAINTENANCE SPLIT WOULD COME IN. YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHTY. SO THE SLIDE YOU GUYS SEE THERE IN FRONT OF YOU IS KIND OF THE RECAP OF WHAT WE PRESENTED LAST TIME. 
          OF THESE NUMBERS FOR RENOVATING THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, PRIMARILY. AND WHAT YOU TASKED US WITH WAS LOOKING AT WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET THOSE BUILDINGS UP TO GETTING ANOTHER 50 YEARS OUT OF THEM. YOU GOT FIRST 50 YEARS, WHAT'S ANOTHER 50 YEARS LOOK LIKE? AND SO THESE NUMBERS RIGHT HERE WERE THE ONE-TO-ONE 
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INTERIOR. SIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND WHAT WAS MISSING? THERE WAS THINGS SUCH AS BRINGING YOUR BUILDING UP TO ENERGY CODE ON THE OUTSIDE. UNDERGROUND UTILITIES SUCH AS DOMESTIC WATER, ELECTRICITY COMING TO THE BUILDING, THINGS LIKE THAT. YOUR PARKING LOTS, TIM MENTIONED THAT LAST TIME OF HOW. THOSE ARE SEEING THE END OF THEIR LIFE AND COULD USE A FULL, COMPLETE REPLACEMENT INSTEAD OF PATCHING. YOU GOT THE ROOFS, MAJOR ADDITIONS FOR GROWTH. 
          IN THESE NUMBERS, YOU HAVE MINOR ADDITIONS SUCH AS MAYBE AN ENTRY IN ADDITION TO CREATE BETTER SAFETY THERE. 
          AS YOU'RE TRYING TO REARRANGE THE ADMINISTRATION. 
          BUT THE MAJOR ADDITIONS WOULD BE TO TAKE ON LARGER CLASS SIZES, THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE AT CAPACITY IN THOSE CLASSROOMS ALREADY, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET ANOTHER 50 YEARS. SO YOU'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT GROWTH FOR EACH ONE OF THESE THREE SCHOOL BUILDINGS. AND THEN MINOR FIELD UPDATES WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THIS EITHER. SO YOU HAVE FIELDS AT ALL THREE OF THESE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TOUCHED AND THEN INCLUDED IN THIS NUMBER. THE OTHER THING WAS PHASING COST INCREASE AND THEN THOSE DISPLACEMENT COSTS THAT WE MENTIONED LAST TIME AS WELL. SO THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU DO WITH STUDENTS WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO RENOVATE THESE BUILDINGS, BUT ALSO WHAT OTHER AREAS OF TOWN DO YOU NEED TO MOVE STUDENTS TO, THINGS LIKE THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED. 
          SO, ALL IN ALL, TO BRING IT UP ANOTHER 50 YEARS, THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE SEEING, SO FOR EXAMPLE, AT EAST OF 47 TO 53, WOULD JUMP TO 75 TO 90 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT COST. TO GET ANOTHER 50 YEARS. SO YOU'RE LOOKING ANYWHERE FROM $25 TO $40 MILLION ADDITIONAL TO WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WE PRESENTED LAST TIME. THERE'S A DECENT RANGE TO THAT, MAINLY BECAUSE WE COULD CHASE THAT DOWN A LOT OF DIFFERENT RABBIT HOLES WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION ON WHERE TO GO. SO WE CAN'T ANSWER EVERY ONE OF THOSE, LIKE, HOW BIG IS EACH ADDITION? WE DON'T KNOW. ARE WE GOING TO KEEP POOLS? ARE WE NOT GOING TO KEEP POOLS? THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS. SO WE CAN ONLY GIVE YOU THE BEST OF. WHAT WAS MISSING IN THAT PREVIOUS NUMBER TO WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE. I THINK, MR. MICHAELS, YOU MENTIONED WHAT TO GET TO 50. SO THOSE WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS. AND JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS A FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN OR ASK QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO, BECAUSE WE'LL BE DONE. AND THEN IT'S ALL CONVERSATION AFTER THAT. SO THE NEXT THING THEN WE LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT MORE IS WHAT IF WE DID REPLACE THESE. AND WE MENTIONED LAST TIME THAT A NEW HIGH SCHOOL, TO GET YOU PRETTY MUCH ONE FOR ONE OF WHAT YOU HAD, WAS THAT 120 TO 135 RANGE. 
          WHAT WE DID NOT HAVE IN THAT NUMBER WAS, OKAY, DOES THIS BUILDING STAY ON THE SITE? DO WE FIND A NEW LAND ACQUISITION FOR THIS? WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT FIGURED IN. 
          SO WHAT MAY BE NOT IN THAT NUMBER IS NEW LAND. 
          WHAT ALSO WASN'T IN THAT NUMBER WAS WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS? IF WE GO TO A NEW SITE. ARE WE RECREATING NEW FIELDS? THIS IS JUST IF WE DID A SINGLE BUILDING, RIGHT? SO AND THEN IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON OUR SITE OR ARE WE GOING TO DEMO THE COST? SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE COSTS THAT JUST DEPENDING AGAIN ON IF WE'RE ON SITE, NOT ON SITE, THOSE ARE THE PIECES THAT WOULD BE MISSING FROM THAT. SO THEN WE JUST KIND OF STEP BACK AND LOOK AT, OK, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROS AND CONS? BECAUSE YOU SAW 120 TO 135, POTENTIALLY RENOVATING THEM IS 75 TO 90. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE PROS OF STARTING TWO NEW OR THREE NEW HIGH SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE FOR A NUMBER? THE PRO IS YOU GET YOUR NEW 50-YEAR BUILDING OR PLUS. WE'VE TRIED TO BUILD FOR MORE. YOU'D MAINTAIN OUR KIND OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS, IF YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, OUR AREAS OF TOWN. MAYBE SOME THAT'S A NEGATIVE. I DON'T KNOW. WE JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THE COMMUNITY WOULD SAY THAT. 
          BUT THEN SOME OF THE CONS, WELL, WE NEED LAND. AND I JUST ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT. DO WE REBUILD? DO WE RELOCATE? DO WE BUILD ON CURRENT SITE? PHASING ON A CURRENT SITE IS COMPLICATED, TOO, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY PUT IT ON ONE OF THE OLD PARKING LOTS. IT'S THE ONLY OPEN SPOT, SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? OR WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER A FIELD OR WHATEVER MAY BE THERE. AND THEN WE HAVE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WAS THE EQUITY THING AND CREATING THE TRIPLE OF EVERYTHING AGAIN. 
          AND THEN JUST THE PHASING OF THAT, ARE WE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES IN THIS EXACT SAME SPOT SO MANY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD? WHERE WE FIXED ALL THESE HIGH SCHOOLS AT THE EXACT SAME TIME? AND NOW THEY'RE ALL COMING BACK TO THE SAME, NEEDING TO BE REPAIRED AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, RIGHT? SO, UH, CAN WE BREAK THAT CYCLE? MAYBE THAT'S A, UM, A CON. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY COST. YOU ADD THAT UP THE 120 OR THE 135 THREE TIMES. 
          YOU GUYS CAN ALREADY SEE WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, UM, BE, UH, TURNED INTO. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR FIRST THREE TAKES AT THAT AGAIN, HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT IT. HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS HAVE SOME QUESTIONS BASED ON KIND OF SITTING ON THAT INFORMATION LAST FOR A MONTH AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAD LEFT LAST TIME ON THESE WHAT IFS, THESE BIG QUESTIONS, AND I REPEAT THEM AGAIN. 
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BECAUSE I HOPE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AFTER WE LEFT, TOO. AND THAT'S WHERE WE WANT THIS CONVERSATION TO GO TONIGHT, WHICH IS WHY WE WANT TO KEEP THIS SUCCINCT. SO WE HAVE TIME FOR THAT, THAT DISCUSSION. BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT IT, WHAT CAN WE THINK ABOUT IF WE GO TO ONE CAMPUS? WHAT, WHAT PROS AND WHAT CONS DO WE HAVE OUT OF THAT? AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE STARTED BRAINSTORMING IS THAT EFFICIENCY, BUILDING AND LAND USAGE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WHEN WE CAN LOOK AT ONE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN WE CAN BRING THE BEST FACULTY AND THE BEST STAFF TOGETHER AT ONE SPOT? TO BE ABLE TO ALL RAISE THAT EQUITY? SO THAT CURRICULUM AND PROGRAMMING CAN BE ACROSS THE BOARD AND THE BEST OF THE BEST IS BEING OFFERED AT THIS FACILITY? HOW CAN WE RAISE THE BAR ON FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS AND ANY OTHER EXTRACURRICULARS THAT WE BRING TOGETHER? AND THEN, HOW CAN WE PLAN FOR THE FLEXIBILITY OF FUTURE EDUCATION? BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IS JUST A SMALL PIECE OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT 20 AND OVER THE NEXT 50 WHEN WE PLAN FOR NEW BUILDINGS. SO THESE WERE THINGS THAT WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT. HOW CAN THIS MOVEMENT GAIN MAYBE SOME MORE PROS AND CONS TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. SOME OF THOSE CONS, AGAIN, WE WENT DOWN THE SAME PIPELINE. MAYBE THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ON ONE SITE, BUT WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT HOW THE CAREER ACADEMY WORKS NOW, STUDENTS ARE MOVING IN AND OUT OF SITES MULTIPLE TIMES. SO MAYBE THAT ISN'T A CON, BUT WE CAN SEE HOW THAT CAN COME TOGETHER. AND THEN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HIGH SCHOOLS, LIKE LEE SAID, MAYBE THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING, BUT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DRAFT BETWEEN THE PROS AND THE CONS LIST? SEE WHERE WE WERE GOING TO GO FROM HERE. I KNOW YOU GUYS CHALLENGED US TO KEEP THAT CREATIVITY GOING, SO WE WANTED TO ALSO KEEP PUSHING DOWN THAT PATH. BECAUSE OVERALL, WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHICH DIRECTION TO GO. BECAUSE, AS YOU CAN SEE, EITHER OPTION, ANY OPTION THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, COMES WITH A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THAT WE STILL NEED TO DISCOVER, BUT THIS IS THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO START MAKING THAT DECISION, TO KNOW WHAT PATH TO CHOOSE. 
          SO THAT WE AREN'T SPENDING TIME ON AN OPTION THAT'S NOT VIABLE. 
          SO I THINK WE WANT TO JUST OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK. AND GET A TEMPERATURE CHECK FOR WHICH DIRECTION WE REALLY WANT TO START GOING AND LOOKING AT. 
          THIS IS ALL PRELIMINARY WORK, AND THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE MAKE AND THE DECISIONS THAT THE BOARD MAKES WILL POINT US IN THAT DIRECTION. OF WHERE DO WE GO NEXT AND WHAT DO WE START LOOKING AT NEXT. JUST BECAUSE WE LOOK AT ONE OF THESE OPTIONS AND SAY, LET'S GO LOOK AT IT, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST OPTION. WE MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY THIS. 
          THIS JUST ISN'T GOING TO WORK. 
          I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FROM THE LAST MEETING WERE, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND COMING UP WITH WAYS TO COLLABORATE WITH SECONDARY, OR, EXCUSE ME, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IN TOWN. WE HAVEN'T GONE DOWN THAT PATH YET BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE A DIRECTION TO BE ABLE TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT IT. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS CAME UP OF, WHERE COULD WE RELOCATE STUDENTS TO. DURING EITHER A RENOVATION OR A NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT ON THE SAME SITE. WE HAVEN'T GONE DOWN THAT PATH YET EITHER, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET. WE'RE NOT READY TO OPEN THAT UP AND REACH OUT TO POTENTIAL PLACES THAT WE COULD LEASE SOME PROPERTY FOR. 
          AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TELL YOU, TOO, IS. EVEN IF WE DO FIND A PLACE WHERE WE COULD GO TO PUT OUR STUDENTS IN, CMBA WOULD NEED TO GO INTO THAT LOCATION AND BRING IT UP TO CODE, MAKE SURE IT'S CONSTRUCTED TO YOU, MEET THE MINIMUM NEEDS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MEET CODE FOR OUR STUDENTS. SO THAT COMES AT A COST AS WELL. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PLANT THAT. 
          BUT THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT TONIGHT AND JUST DISCUSS IS HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT SOME OF THESE OBJECTS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT TONIGHT, THESE THOUGHTS, DO WE WANT TO GO BACK AND BRAINSTORM SOME MORE? WE'RE JUST REALLY HERE FOR DISCUSSION. SO I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD AND ASK FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, TOO. I'D LIKE TO PUT ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ON THE SPOT. SPOT BECAUSE I'M NOT A SIOUX CITY NATIVE TRAILER ON THE SPOT YOU MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN TO A SIOUX CITY NATIVE HERE. PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE IDEA OF LIKE, I'M GOING TO JUST USE LIKE, CENTRAL HIGH, AND YOU KNOW, I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA. 
          HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK OUR COMMUNITY IS READY FOR THAT. I THINK THAT... IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND HAVE SOME MORE INCLUSIVITY. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE READY FOR THAT. AND FROM ALL LEVELS, LIKE THE IMMERSION OF LETTING TWO HIGH SCHOOLS GO AND THE EVOLUTION OF HAVING ONE HIGH SCHOOL, AND 
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THEN DO WE KEEP ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL? SO WE HAVE CENTRAL AND WEST OR WHATEVER? SO IT DOES CAUSE ME A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN. TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD DO AS A COMMUNITY, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH OUR COMMUNITY IS CHANGING, IT IS NOT CHANGING, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE TO ANYONE. WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS. YES. AND THEN I ALSO THINK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY OF, LIKE, THE FIELDS AND THE CAMPS. AND THERE'S BEEN SO MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HAVING... 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE A FIELD WHERE EVERYONE CAN PLAY ON THAT FIELD. AND THEN DOING SOME THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE AN AQUA CENTER. 
          AND IT'S ALL THOSE THINGS. AND WE CAN DO SOME MORE COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE MY GUESS IS THAT CONVERSATION HASN'T BEEN HAD EITHER, LIKE PREVIOUS ONES. SO I DO HAVE MIXED EMOTIONS. I DO LIKE THAT IDEA, BUT I JUST REALLY DON'T THINK OUR COMMUNITY IS READY FOR THAT. 
          SO THAT'S MY HONEST OPINION. 
          THANK YOU. WELL, DIRECTOR EMKE. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR LEE. 
          I HAVE TO SAY I APPRECIATE THAT PRESIDENT GEORGE TALKS ABOUT NOT BEING A NATIVE, BUT YOU GREW UP IN THIS AREA, AND I GREW UP NOT FAR FROM WHERE YOU ARE, AND I REMEMBER WHAT THE INFLUENCE OF SIOUX CITY SCHOOLS WAS, AND THE THINKING ABOUT IT AND THE LIKE, AND I KNOW I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE READY TO DIVIDE. WHEN CENTRAL WAS MADE INTO TWO CAMPUSES AND THE LIKE. 
          SO I HEAR YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT YOUR THUMB ON THE PULSE OF THE COMMUNITY PRETTY WELL WHEN YOU SAY THAT TODAY, WE'RE NOT READY. I THINK THAT THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A REAL DISCUSSION. THAT LOOKED LIKE MAYBE THERE'S A PLAN TO GO IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER. I WAS ATTRACTED TO THE IDEA THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY, PARTICULARLY HERE IN WHAT I CALL THE NORTH OF HIGHWAY 20 AREA OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, TO PERHAPS HAVE A CAMPUS THAT'S CLOSER TO THE UNIVERSITY SETTING. 
          THAT WOULD MAKE COLLABORATION WITH UNIVERSITIES MORE CONVENIENT FOR THE STUDENTS AND LESS TRAVEL RISK AND ALL THAT THAT GOES ON. WHERE EXACTLY THAT WOULD BE, I KNOW THAT... 
          ON THE ONE HAND, WE HAVE WESTERN IOWA TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE, WHICH IS NORTH OF HIGHWAY 60, BUT BUT WE ALSO HAVE BRIARCLIFF, AND BRIARCLIFF IS MORE WITHIN THE CITY. 
          BUT I'LL JUST SAY I'M ATTRACTED TO THE IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH EDUCATION THESE DAYS. 
          WHICH IS WE BEGIN AS SOON AS WE CAN, COLLABORATING WITH OUR LOCAL UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES. TO ADVANCE EDUCATION SO THAT THEY CAN EITHER GO INTO A HIGHER EDUCATION EASILY, OR BE VERY WELL PREPARED TO GO INTO AN IMMEDIATE WORK SITE OR TRADE. AND THE SYNERGY WE NOW HAVE WITH THE UNIVERSITIES IN TOWN MATTER. AND IF WE COULD MAKE THAT EVEN MORE CONVENIENT BY LOCATION, IT'S AN IDEA THAT I FIND ATTRACTIVE. DO I HAVE THE SOLUTION FOR IT? NO. WOULD YOU WANT ME TO? WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BUT I'M PUTTING THAT OUT ON THE TABLE. IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CHANGE, THE CHANGE THAT I WOULD CERTAINLY ADVOCATE FOR IS TO BE CLOSER PHYSICALLY TO OUR RESIDENT UNIVERSITIES IN THE CITY. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR EMKE. BEING A SMALL-TOWN KID... I WAS ALWAYS ENAMORED BY THE BUILDING. HERE YOU HAVE, AND THEN HAVING TAUGHT HERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS AND THEN COMPETING AGAINST THE SIOUX FALLS. SCHOOLS, OTHER SCHOOLS, THE NEW SCHOOLS, WIDE HALLWAYS, LIGHT, FOYER, YOU KNOW, MEETING AREAS. THAT BEING SAID, I ALWAYS HAD THIS IDEA, GOD, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO PUT THE OLD CENTRAL BACK TOGETHER AGAIN? BUT IT MIGHT BE LIKE, HUMPTY, DUMPTY, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO PUT HUMPTY DUMPTY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. I THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT WHERE ONCE WE GIVE A DIRECTION, I THINK THE DISCUSSION STARTS. 
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MAYBE WE GET INTO IT AND WE REALIZE THIS PLAN IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN THAT. I LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS DOES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. I KNOW VALLEY DIDN'T WANT TO SPLIT INTO TWO HIGH SCHOOLS. WHAT'D THEY DO? THEY BUILT ANOTHER BUILDING FOR THEIR NINTH, AND THEN DID THEY GO ON AND ADD TO THAT FOR THEIR TENTH? SO I THINK THERE'S THAT OPTION OF STILL HAVING TWO BUILDINGS, BUT YOU MAYBE START THAT CENTRAL CONNECTION AGAIN WITH NORTHWEST SCHOOLS, SO TO SPEAK. SPEED. AND THEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BRING THINGS BACK TOGETHER. I'M SURE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE LANCE CAN, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A MERIDEN MARCUS MERIDEN CLAYMORE DECIDED TO GO TO ONE SCHOOL. YOU KNOW, SEISMIC SHIFT IN THE COMMUNITY WAS WOULD BE TODAY, IF WE START TALKING, BRING HIM BACK TO ONE IN A HIGH SCHOOL CITY. I WOULD BE, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF REALLY STILL MAINTAINING TWO BUILDINGS, A NORTH AND A WEST, BUT MAYBE START LOOKING AT A SHIFT. AND YOU STILL CALL IT CENTRAL. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INTRIGUES ANYONE ELSE, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, TOO, BECAUSE AFTER HEARING SOME. 
          CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT, I MEAN, WHAT IS STUDENT ENROLLMENT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN FIVE OR TEN YEARS? AND WE HAVE THREE SCHOOLS, AND THEN WE END UP HAVING TO CLOSE SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH KIDS IN THAT SCHOOL, AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO, YOU KNOW, IT AUTOMATICALLY HAS TO TAKE PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THAT SYNERGY OF KIDS MOVING AND THINGS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY MAKING THE DECISION TO DO ONE, ALL, OR WHATEVER, WE'VE GOT TO BE FORWARD THINKING ON WHAT ENROLLMENT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RESOURCES. 
          IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S BEING ASKED TODAY TO RECTIFY THAT. THAT'S EXACTLY THE THOUGHT PATH THAT I WAS GOING ON WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR ENROLLMENT TREND. THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN DECLINES. 
          IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THE ENROLLMENT THAT WE HAVE AND THE GRADES THAT WE'LL BE MOVING UP. THAT WILL GIVE US SOME IDEA, CERTAINLY NOT THE ENTIRE PICTURE. HAVING COME FROM AN AREA THAT CONSOLIDATION HAPPENED OVER TIME, MULTIPLE TIMES, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S ALWAYS HARD. 
          IT'S HARD TO MAKE A TRANSITION. 
          I WOULD SAY MY OBSERVATION AND MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. IT WAS HARDER ON PARENTS THAN ON STUDENTS. THAT BEING SAID, PARENTS ARE TAXPAYERS AND CERTAINLY I WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOME COMMUNITY INPUT INTO THAT. I DO THINK THE QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL PUT IN FRONT OF US OF WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE ONE COMMUNITY? IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION AS WELL. YEAH, SO I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT OTHER FOLKS HAVE TO SAY AS WELL. MR. PRESIDENT, I'M WEARING A DARK COLOR FOR A REASON, SO I WILL BRING THE BLACK PART, BECAUSE HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE TO PLAY WITH? AND IN ADDITION TO THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, WE HAVE SOME MIDDLE SCHOOL ISSUES, SOME OTHER ISSUES TO DEAL WITH. THE SALES TAX OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND AT SOME POINT, WE GET A FORECAST OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE MIGHT HAVE, BECAUSE THAT, I THINK, MIGHT HELP US FOCUS ON WHAT IS PRACTICABLE IN THESE TIMES. SORRY, YOU MENTIONED IN BOND? S.V. 
          AT SOME POINT IN TIME? WELL, THE SALES TAX REVENUE BONDS, NOT IN ANY WAY GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. VISITING AT THE IOWA ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARDS. DIRECTOR LEE AND I HAPPENED TO BE SITTING WITH OUR FRIENDS FROM DUBUQUE WHO HAD A BOND ISSUE THAT ALMOST PASSED. AND THAT WAS ABOUT, WHAT, THEIR THIRD, FOURTH TIME, SOMETHING 
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LIKE THAT. IT WAS A BOND ISSUE, GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ISSUE, PAYABLE BY TAXES. ARE A REALLY, REALLY HARD SELL. SOUTH SIOUX HAD WHAT I THOUGHT WAS AN EXCELLENT MARKETING PROGRAM. 
          THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB AND IT DIDN'T GO SO WELL. 
          OF COURSE, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME. 
          BUT I THINK HAVING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WHEN IT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          THE SECOND THING IS THAT TIM HAS TOLD US THAT THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO BID STUFF. SO OF THE STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHAT SHOULD WE BID NOW? YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, THE NORTH ROOF, IT COULD BE THIS KIND OF PIPE OR THAT KIND OF PIPE OR SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO SEE THE KIDS AT NORTH OUT FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE IT GOT KIND OF WET. 
          AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK YOU HAVE ON A LIST THAT WE COULD SEE AND MOVE FORWARD ON. THE THINGS THAT WE CAN SAVE MONEY ON. WELL, WE DECIDED, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SITE, WE MIGHT ASK, DO ANY OF OUR EXISTING SITES WORK AT IT? ADD ANOTHER SCHOOL TO, OR TWO, NONE OF THE THREE. NOT UNLESS YOU GET RID OF ATHLETIC FIELDS AT THIS POINT, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND A NEW HOME. TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD WANTS THEM TO EXPLORE THAT ANY FURTHER OR NOT. I THINK PUTTING ANOTHER SCHOOL ON ANY OF YOUR CURRENT SITES WOULD MAKE TRAFFIC INCREDIBLY AT ANY OF THOSE SITES. SO WE NEED NEW SITES AND NEW SITES. UNLESS YOU TOOK A BUILDING DOWN AND PUT A NEW ONE UP. 
          MAGICALLY, OVERNIGHT, HARRY POTTER-ISH. WELL, THAT WORKS. 
          WELL, HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE? LET'S ASSUME YOU STAY IN, LET'S USE NORTH FOR AN EXAMPLE. IF YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE THE SCHOOL DOWN AND BUILD NEW, A NEW DESIGN, DO EVERYTHING, HOW MANY YEARS ARE WE TALKING? TWO AND A HALF. TWO AND A HALF. 
          YOU GOT PROBABLY NINE TO TEN MONTHS OF DESIGN AND THEN 18 TO 24 MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION. 
          SOMETHING THAT LARGE, MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE. I'M GOING TO DIRECT YOUR QUESTION TO MR. VANDERMEER. THIS IS A HARD ONE. IT'S NOT LIKE JEOPARDY. WE SHOULD HAVE THE JEOPARDY THEME SONG GOING ON. 
          WE SHOULD BE RIGHT AT THE CUSP OF GETTING THE COVID BABY BUMP COMING THROUGH. SO IS OUR ELEMENTARY KIDS POPULATION GOING UP OR ARE WE STAGNANT? WE'D BE STAGNANT OR HEADING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. 
          OKAY. MR. VANDERLOO, THOUGH, MOST OF OUR DECREASE IN ATTENDANCE SEEMS TO BE... 
          SECOND LANGUAGE STUDENTS. AND SO, IS IT MORE OF AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE RIGHT NOW, OR IS IT TRULY A BIRTH RATE ISSUE? I ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH. YEAH, MR. VAN WHO MIGHT ASK, HOW ABOUT STUDENT POPULATION? SAY, K THROUGH FOUR, ONE, ONE THROUGH FIVE? IS THAT NUMBER FAIRLY CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR HIGH SCHOOLS NOW? OR MASTER, ARE... NO, OUR CLASS SIZES ARE DECREASING. THEY'RE NOT INCREASING. SO... WE, AT TIMES, ON A HEAVY LOAD, WE WOULD CARRY 1,150, 1,150, MAYBE EVEN 1,200 STUDENTS IN A GRADE LEVEL. WE'RE NOT THERE IN ANY OF OUR GRADE LEVELS RIGHT NOW. 
          UNDER 1,000? YES, WE'RE UNDER 01,000 IN MULTIPLE GRADE LEVELS, YES. I KIND OF WANT TO JUST BACK TO THE CAMPUS CONCEPT AND WHY THAT KIND OF CAME UP. I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST SIMPLE MATH, BUILDING THREE SCHOOLS PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO BE IN OUR CARDS. IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE. LAND WOULD BE AN ISSUE, AND JUST THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ALONE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE DOLLARS FOR THAT. SO WE TRIED TO COME BACK WITH TWO OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, THE ONE WITH THE RENOVATION AND THEN THE CENTRAL KIND OF CAMPUS. FEEL. AND REALLY, I'LL PUT LEE ON THE SPOT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAME BACK WITH SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS 
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ON THAT SO THAT WE HAVE A COMPARABLE FORUM. SO DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE MORE, AND ON WHAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? YEAH, SO WE SPENT THE TIME PUTTING TOGETHER, JUST FROM OUR MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE AND ASSESSING SOME THINGS OF OKAY, WHAT WOULD WE PUT INTO A ONE LARGE CAMPUS SCHOOL. 
          WE HAD TO MAKE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS. WE HAD NOT HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANY TEACHERS. SO QUANTITY OF CLASSROOMS, QUANTITY OF GYMS, SIZE OF ALL THAT STUFF. WE TOOK, I DON'T KNOW, EDUCATED OPINIONS ON WHAT TO DO THERE. SO THAT ENDED UP WITH A SCHOOL ROUGHLY ABOUT 400,000 SQUARE FEET-ISH. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER EXACTLY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT ULTIMATELY, THE BUILDING WOULD BE ABOUT $224 MILLION. TO BUILD A SCHOOL THAT WOULD HANDLE ROUGHLY 03,800 TO 3,000 TO 3,800 STUDENTS. AND THE REASON WE HELD THAT NUMBER WAS KIDS WOULD BE HERE, KIDS WOULD BE AT THE CAREER ACADEMY SITE AT A CERTAIN TIME, AND THEN THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH TEACHERS, A LOT OF YOUR SENIORS AND A LOT OF YOUR JUNIORS, THEY DON'T EVEN SPEND TIME ON CAMPUS, OR THEY'RE COMING AND GOING SO OFTEN, OR SPENDING SO MUCH TIME OFF CAMPUS. THAT WE WOULDN'T NEED A FACILITY THAT HANDLED ALL 4,500, 4,200, WHATEVER. 
          CURRENT ENROLLMENT IS AT THIS TIME. SO, YOU KNOW, TO THINK KIND OF THROUGH THAT NUMBER, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MULTIPLE GYMS. THAT'S, I'LL JUST KIND OF GO OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ON WHAT SOME OF THE MAIN THINGS. THAT'S MULTIPLE GYMS FOR PRACTICE PE. THAT'S MULTIPLE, SORRY, THAT IS A SINGLE POOL. I KNOW THAT COULD BE CONTENTIOUS, BUT THEN THAT'S A LOT OF CLASSROOMS. IT'S A CAFETERIA THAT CAN HANDLE THEM ALL, KITCHEN THAT CAN HANDLE THEM ALL. IT STILL HAD A FRESHMAN CAREER ACADEMY IN THE BUILDING. BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT THAT OUT. THAT WAS WRESTLING FACILITIES, WEIGHT ROOM FACILITIES. IT WAS THE WHOLE THING FOR A SCHOOL. 
          AUDITORIUM, YEP, REALLY BIG AUDITORIUM, BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOT TO HANDLE A GOOD CHUNK OF SPACE. SO WITH THAT JUST AS A COMPARISON, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET A SINGLE BUILDING FOR $224,000, THAT'S A PRETTY DECENT NUMBER. I KNOW IT'S A BIG NUMBER, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY THERE. I THINK TO KIND OF ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON OUR PROS, AND I AM BY NO MEANS PUSHING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER HERE. I JUST WANT TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE USE THE WORD CONSOLIDATION, AND USUALLY THAT CARRIES A NEGATIVE THOUGHT TO IT, BUT I THINK IN THIS SENSE, IT COULD BE A POSITIVE. WE HAVE CERTAIN CLASSES THAT WE'VE LEARNED THAT IN ONE SCHOOL THERE'S MAYBE ONLY EIGHT PEOPLE IN THE CLASS, AND IN ANOTHER SCHOOL THEY'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD TEACHER, AND THAT CLASS CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH SEATS FOR IT. WE HAVE CERTAIN, JUST CERTAIN CURRICULUMS AND CERTAIN OPPORTUNITIES, THE BANDS. THE JAZZ BANDS, THE DRAMA, THE ATHLETICS, RIGHT? I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE ONE GREAT BAND, ONE GREAT CHOIR, ONE THING. 
          RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, DO THE KIDS WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT, FILLING UP A WHOLE FOOTBALL FIELD WITH THE MARCHING BAND, OR BARELY COVERING IT WITH 30 PEOPLE? YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE IN EXPERIENCE. SO I THINK ABOUT THAT CONSOLIDATION, NOT AS A NEGATIVE, BUT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES? DOES IT FORCE YOUR CITY IN COMPETITIONS? OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THINGS. NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH THREE AND TRY TO MOVE KIDS AROUND, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY EFFICIENCY BEHIND 225 OR FOUR FOR THE SINGLE BUILDING. THIS 224 DOESN'T INCLUDE THE OUTSIDE FIELDS, OR DOES IT? IT DOES NOT, NO. SORRY, I FEEL LIKE I'M A BROKEN RECORD, BUT THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES IN SOME OF THAT. SO I WOULD TELL YOU THAT PROBABLY RANGES FROM 50 MILLION ALL THE WAY UP TO 110. AND THERE'S A RANGE THERE, BECAUSE HOW MANY PRACTICE FIELDS DO WE NEED? WHAT KIND OF FOOTBALL STADIUM IS IT REALLY? IS IT ANOTHER OLSEN KIND OF STADIUM, OR IS IT MORE OF A STANDARD HIGH SCHOOL THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN ONE OF THE RURAL COMMUNITIES? HOW MANY COMPETITION, BASEBALL, SOFTBALL FIELDS? WHAT'S THE TRACK LOOK LIKE? DO WE NEED A FIELD HOUSE? HOW MANY SOCCER FIELDS? IS THE COMMUNITY COMING INTO PLAY? WE DID RUN SOME NUMBERS ON THAT AND THAT COULD GO FROM THE VERY BASIC OF 50 ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT 120. I KNOW THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS. THEY'RE HARD TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND. SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT, YOU TALKED ABOUT 400,000 SQUARE FEET. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT ONE BUILDING BECAUSE AT ONE POINT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MULTIPLE BUILDINGS OVER A CAMPUS. THAT MIGHT MAKE IT MORE FLEXIBLE IN THE FUTURE. YEP. SO THE WAY I DID, THAT WAS. YES, I DID LOOK AT IT AS KIND OF DEPARTMENT, BUT IT WAS EASIER JUST TO MEMORIZE THE ONE NUMBER. SO THEY COULD BE BROKEN OUT. WE COULD DO A FRESHMAN ACADEMY OR A FRESHMAN BLOCK, OR WE COULD DO FRESHMAN, SOPHOMORE. BUT OVERALL, NO MATTER WHAT, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ROUGHLY IS GOING TO BE UP. MAYBE A LITTLE LESS 
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EFFICIENT IF WE GO MORE BUILDINGS, JUST DEPENDING ON HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE, IS THERE A CONNECTION, IS THERE NO CONNECTION? ARE WE GOING TO KEEP, IF WE DID A FRESHMAN, DO THEY GET THEIR OWN COMMONS? ARE THEY COMING OVER? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE'S JUST SO MANY VARIABLES. I HATE TO KEEP SAYING THAT, BUT I THINK BIG PICTURE, RIGHT? LIKE, WHAT IS BEST? AND I WOULD APPRECIATE WHAT LANCE SAID. AND HOW DO WE GET THE COMMUNITY, HOW DO WE START THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND GET US READY TO GO THERE, YOU KNOW, AT THE WORK SESSION, RIGHT? SO, HERE TO ASK QUESTIONS. CAN YOU GUYS GO BACK TO THAT FIRST, VERY FIRST SLIDE? I'M ASSUMING THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS? THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS. YEAH. SO THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW? IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, YEAH, THESE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. 
          OKAY. AND THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM WHERE? I KNOW THAT QUESTION HAS ALREADY BEEN ASKED, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY. IT'S TAX. YEAH. OKAY. 
          AND WILL IT BE THERE? THE MONEY? YEAH. IT SHOULD. THE LEGISLATURE AND PATTY, IF YOU'VE HEARD ANYTHING NEW, LET ME KNOW. BUT AS OF THE LATEST, THERE WASN'T ANY ONE. ONE OF THE TAX REFORM PROPERTY TAX REFORM BILLS WOULD SCOOP SOME OF THE SALES TAX THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN COMMITTED TO. 
          TO DEBT SERVICE. BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT THAT PARTICULAR IDEA IS GOING ANYWHERE, BUT GOD KNOWS. I'D SAY PROBABLY THE MONEY WOULD BE, BECAUSE THERE'S 300 AND SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF IOWA, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM GETS SOME OF THE SALES TAX MONEY. SO I THINK THAT... THAT THE LEGISLATURE WOULD BE WELL ADVISED TO LEAVE THAT PARTICULAR POT ALONE. 
          DOWN THE ROAD, A COUPLE YEARS, ONE OF THE PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT I GOT WHEN I WAS IN DES MOINES WITH THE CHAMBER WAS A LEGISLATOR. THAT SAID THAT THE BUDGET THAT THEY HAVE NOW, THEIR PLAN TO... 
          KEEP SALES TAX, OUR INCOME TAX AT 3.8% REVOLVES AROUND BASICALLY SALES TAX REVENUE INCREASING QUITE A BIT, OR STATE REVENUE INCREASING QUITE A BIT. AND SO FAR, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. AND AT A BILLION TO A YEAR IN A DEFICIT, IF THE REVENUE DOESN'T START TO JUMP IN YEAR THREE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WHICH I CONGRATULATE THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE MOSTLY FOUR YEARS LEFT ON YOUR TERM. I HAVE LESS THAN TWO. AND THE ONLY PLACE THEY CAN GET THE MONEY, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO INCOME TAX, THE ONLY PLACE THEY CAN GET ANYTHING IS IN A SALES TAX, EITHER SCOOPING OR ADDING. SO REGARDLESS OF THE, I MEAN, THESE THINGS NEED TO BE DONE WITHIN FIVE YEARS ANYWAY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY EVENTUALLY TO FIX THESE THINGS UNTIL WE CAN GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE COULD EVEN BE IN ANOTHER. THAT'S WHERE WE, IF THESE ARE LIKE ONE, TO GET THEM BACK TO PRIME CONDITION, THERE'S OTHER WAYS WE CAN HANDLE THESE ISSUES IF WE CHOOSE TO GO A DIFFERENT WAY. SO WE DON'T INVEST GOOD MONEY INTO AN OLD BUILDING THAT COULD JUST GET TORN DOWN. YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU CHOSE TO GO. NEW SCHOOL FOR SCHOOL X, I'M GOING TO SAY ONE. SCHOOL X, WE WOULDN'T PUT AS MUCH MONEY INTO THAT ONE THEN. WE WOULD JUST KEEP IT GOING. 
          LIKE WE SAID, WE WOULD TRIAGE IT. WE WOULD TRY TO FIND A MORE ECONOMICAL WAY OF GETTING IT DONE, BUT MAKING SURE IT HOLDS AND IS BETTER IN CONDITION THAN WHAT IT IS. 
          SO I THINK WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO NOT SPEND THE FULL $11.2 MILLION, OR ALMOST $13 MILLION. 
          BASED ON SOME OF THE THINGS HERE TO DO THAT. YES, IF YOU SAID, GO PUT IT THERE AND THEN WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING MORE, YEAH, THEN IT WOULD COST YOU THAT 11.2. 
          OR WE SAY, NO, WE'RE GONNA HOLD ON A LITTLE BIT LONGER, AND TIM WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO HANDLE IT. 
          THROUGH MAINTENANCE BUDGETS, 
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THROUGH SAVE. AND TRY TO JUST KIND OF KEEP IT GOING AS LONG AS POSSIBLE UNTIL WE GET THE NEW STRUCTURE OR REMODELED STRUCTURE, WHATEVER IT ENDED UP BEING. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK, TRELA, THREE YEARS TO CONVINCE THE COMMUNITY TO DO SOMETHING TO CONSOLIDATE HIGH SCHOOL SOMEHOW? LET'S BE CLEAR, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR TRELA. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. I'M ONLY JOHN. RIGHT, NO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T FORESEE WHAT THE GENERAL POPULATION, I'M COMING FROM, JUST MY VIEW. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LIFE-CHANGING OCCURRENCE. 
          IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUILDING A SUPERMARKET IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD KIND OF THING, AND EVERYBODY ACQUIESCES. I THINK IT'S, THIS IS... I'M NOT EVEN SAYING THAT THEY'D AGREE THAT JUST TO BRING IT UP AND TALK ABOUT IT, I'M GUESSING, WOULD BE ABOUT THREE YEARS. 
          OH, I DON'T KNOW. THAT POSSIBLY COULD BE. BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO CHANGE A LOT OF PEOPLE'S HEARTS AND MINDS. 
          AND THE CULTURAL CLIMATE. 
          YEAH. SO IF WE PICK THREE YEARS FOR THAT AND ANOTHER 18 MONTHS FOR DESIGN OF SOMETHING, WE'RE LOOKING AT AT LEAST FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. TO DO MUCH OF ANYTHING. AND IN THAT FIVE YEARS, YOU HAVE, WHAT, 25% TO 40% INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION COST. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SURE. I HAVE NO CLUE THAT FAR OUT YET. I MEAN, 5% CONSTRUCTION INFLATION ARE 8% FOR FIVE YEARS, 25% TO 40%. SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S A WORK SESSION, WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY AGREE TO THIS, MR. MYERS? LIKE, WHAT WOULD YOU EVEN START DOING, OR WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SCHOOL? SCHOOL BOARD TO MAKE THEM AGREE. THERE'D BE A LOT OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, AND I'VE NEVER BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING A VERY GOOD POLITICIAN, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER. SO WOULD AN 80% BE AGREEABLE, 50%, 30%, 100%? IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT'S JUST A VERY SUBJECTIVE SOLUTION. IT'S LIKE, EITHER WE'RE GOING TO BE VISIONARY AND PUSH FORWARD, OR WE'RE GOING TO STEP BACK AND BE TOLD. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M JUST ASKING. AND I'M GOING TO CLARIFY, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF ONLY AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK TAKING THREE YEARS TO TALK ABOUT IT GIVES ME HEARTBURN, IS WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU. AND PART OF IT IS ALSO LOOKING AT OUR GENERAL OPERATING BUDGET, KNOWING THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THAT TIME PERIOD. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT APPEALS TO ME, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT APPEAL TO ME ABOUT A CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL. 
          ONE IS THE EFFICIENCY THAT IT PROVIDES IN THAT WHILE THERE ARE MORE STUDENTS IN ONE LOCATION, YOU'RE NOT DUPLICATING EVERY RESOURCE. 
          YOU'RE NOT DUPLICATING LIBRARIES. YOU'RE NOT DUPLICATING FIELDS. YOU'RE NOT DUPLICATING ADMINISTRATORS. 
          THOSE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY FOR US TO ADDRESS SOONER. THAN THREE YEARS. AND IF WE KNOW WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I WOULD SEE, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE COMMUNITY INPUT. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION SOONER BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT, INFLATIONARY COSTS, BUT ALSO, I JUST THINK WE'RE IN A WORLD WHERE TAKING A YEAR TO MAKE A DECISION ISN'T ACCEPTABLE IN SOCIETY EITHER. 
          LIKE, WE'VE GOT TO BALANCE THAT NEED FOR TIME FOR COMMUNITY INPUT AND THEN THE URGENCY OF MAKING A DECISION AND MOVING AHEAD. SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE EITHER, BUT I COULD SEE A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY INPUT SESSIONS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AT THE MOST. AND MAKING A DECISION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND MOVING AHEAD AND THEN SELLING. THE VISION, I THINK, IS MORE OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY OF HEARING WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO SAY, EVALUATING OUR BUDGETARY NEEDS, OUR STUDENT ENROLLMENT. ALL OF THE FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT. AND THEN SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND AND HELPING THE COMMUNITY EMBRACE THAT IDEA AS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN, YOU KNOW WHERE, WHAT, DA DA, DA, DA DA, WHICH WOULD TAKE. SO, THE WAY WE'VE HELPED OTHER DISTRICTS THROUGH THAT IS, YOU CAN COME IN WITH A SINGLE PLAN LIKE THAT, OR WE COME IN WITH A SIMILAR PRESENTATION OF. 
          HERE'S THE FACTS, HERE'S THE STATE 
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OF THE DISTRICT, IF YOU WILL, STATE OF THE UNION, OF WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THE SCHOOL'S AT A VERY CRITICAL JUNCTION OF. 
          DO WE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THESE BASED ON THESE FACTS, DO WE REPLACE THEM BASED ON THESE FACTS, OR DO WE TRY AND GO SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT BASED ON THESE FACTS. OTHER THAN THAT, OR IF YOU JUST PRESENT A SINGLE IDEA, I THINK PEOPLE CAN SHOOT HOLES IN IT ALL DAY LONG, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY FOCUSED THING. BUT SO WE'VE DONE IT. 
          WE'VE DONE IT THAT WAY. WE HAVE COME IN WITH JUST A SINGLE SOLUTION AND JUST PRESENTED IT THAT WAY. OBVIOUSLY, MUCH SMALLER COMMUNITIES. 
          BUT I WOULD, I WOULD TRY TO REALLY THINK THROUGH, WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? AND ARE WE LOOKING TO INFORM, EDUCATE AND THEN BRING THEM ALONG, OR JUST REALLY TRY TO JUST PUSH ONE THING FORWARD? AND I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, THERE'S. VERY DIFFERENT APPROACH THERE, I THINK. SO, I THINK I LIKE THAT, THAT'S I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR, I THINK THAT'S BUILD ON THAT. 
          WE HAVE TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY WITH EITHER PLAN. BECAUSE IF WE DO RENOVATIONS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXTREMELY DISRUPTIVE. 
          THERE COULD BE SOME RELOCATION DURING THAT PROCESS WHERE THE RENOVATIONS ARE TAKING PLACE. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD JUST BENEFIT US TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND AT LEAST SHARE WITH THEM THAT. THESE ARE SOME OF THE OBSTACLES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. SO WE SEE THAT, THE ENGAGEMENT. IF I HEAR YOU RIGHT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMING WITH A TOTAL COMBINATION OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS, REMODELING THE HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          WELL, I'M HEARING HIM SAY THAT THEY COME FORWARD WITH A PLAN THAT MAY INVOLVE LESS HIGH SCHOOLS, BUT IT'S NEW. YEAH. AND THE OTHER ONE IS, WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE... 
          THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, UP TO SPEED TO CARRY FORWARD. 
          AND, OF COURSE, I SIT HERE JUST THINKING ABOUT THE POINTS OF DISCUSSION. ONE IS, IN 1972, BUILDINGS WERE NOT BEING BUILT TO DEAL WITH TODAY'S INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. AND SO IF YOU TALK RENOVATION, THERE'D HAVE TO BE KIND OF A HUGE COST, KIND OF WHAT YOU SEE UNIVERSITIES DOING WHEN THEY SAY, WE'RE KEEPING OLD MAIN. FOR THIS, BUT WE'VE GOT A. THE INSIDE OF OLD MAIN ISN'T GOING TO LOOK ANYTHING LIKE IT DID BEFORE BECAUSE IT HAD TO BE SO RENOVATED. TO DEAL WITH TODAY'S MODERN, UM, ESSENTIAL TO LIFE. UH, FUNCTIONS LIKE THE USE OF THE INTERNET, THE USE OF COMPUTERS AND AND ALL OF THAT. SO I CAN SEE THAT THE ONE COST, YEAH, COULD BE PRETTY HIGH. I, I, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          I MEAN, THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THOSE EXISTING BUILDINGS. 
          LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE. SO WOULD IT BE A WORSE IDEA TO SAY THERE'S THIS NEW IDEA AND THERE'S THIS ALTERNATE NEW IDEA, OR THE THIRD IDEA, IS THIS? WOULD IT BE BETTER TO SAY WE'VE GIVEN YOU OUR BEST ANALYSIS OF WHAT? A REVISION TO YOUR STRUCTURE IN THE CITY WITH NEW... HIGH SCHOOLS, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD BE, AND THAT'S THE PLAN THAT WE THEN EITHER ADVOCATE FOR, OR YOUR ALTERNATIVE IS TO FIX THE OLD. HOW WOULD YOU RECOMMEND GOING FORWARD, BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE OF YOUR COMPANY? ASK THAT QUESTION ONE MORE WAY, BUT DIFFERENTLY. DID YOU GET IT? SORRY. HE WANTS TO KNOW OUR RECOMMENDATION. SO ARE YOU ASKING LIKE, HEY, WE COME FORWARD WITH, WE THINK THIS IS THE BEST OPTION. BUT THEN THERE'S A SECONDARY OPTION AS WELL, LIKE PRESENT. I THINK IF YOU HAVE THREE CHOICES, IT GETS A LOT HARDER TO SOMETHING. IF YOU HAD THE CHOICE OF, THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES TO STAY THE WAY YOU ARE. 
          VERSUS. HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BE NEW AND MODERN. I WOULD NOT GO IN WITH THE TRIAGE OPTION BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF A NO-BRAINER, RIGHT? IF NOTHING HAPPENS, WE'VE GOT TO DO THAT. AND I WOULD PROBABLY. WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF AGREED THAT I DON'T THINK THREE NEW ONES ARE EVEN IN THE BUDGET. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, BUT WHAT DID THAT TOTAL UP TO? WHERE'S MY CALCULATOR? 360 TO 405 MILLION. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. SO I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT'S IN THE DECK. SO I WOULD AGREE. I THINK IT'S, IF I WERE TO SAY... RENOVATE. OR, HEY, WE NEED TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO SET OURSELVES UP. OR THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THESE THREE SCHOOLS TO WORK. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO I THINK YOU GO IN WITH THE TWO. WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH? A RECOMMENDED PLAN? WOULD CHANGE OUR STRUCTURE WHEN I SAY, CHANGE OUR STRUCTURE THAT WE WE MAY END UP WITH. I. I FRANKLY LIKE PRESIDENT GEORGE'S IDEA. 
          ALL OF THE LITERATURE TALKS ABOUT HAVING A NINTH GRADE CAMPUS IS SO POSITIVE 
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TO LEARNING. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OUR CURRICULUM, WHICH IS WE ARE REALLY FRONT-LOADING A LOT OF OUR REQUIRED TO GRADUATE IN THE NINTH GRADE. SO THAT WE DON'T, AS STUDENTS DECIDE THAT THEY'RE TOO TIRED TO FINISH SCHOOL, THAT THEY'RE REAL CLOSE. AND THEY CAN BE TALKED INTO STAYING WITH IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS WHY THE NINTH GRADE CAMPUS. IS A POSITIVE THOUGHT, AND IF WE'RE ALREADY POSITIONED THAT WAY LOCATIONALLY, THAT MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD MODEL. I WAS THINKING, ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE SCHOOL BETWEEN IOWA CITY AND CEDAR RAPIDS. 
          IT'S IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE TWO, AND I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME. IT'S NOT PLEASANT VALLEY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING ELSE AREA. 
          GLENMORE? COULD BE. NOT LINMAR, BUT IT'S BETWEEN IOWA CITY. LINMAR IS UP TO THE NORTHEAST. BUT ANYWAY, WHEN WE WERE AT IOWA SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION, NOT THIS PAST YEAR, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE, THEY WERE AMONG THE PRESENTERS. AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW DO YOU HANDLE DISCIPLINE IN THE CLASS? AND SO FORTH. 
          AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY KIND OF A CAMPUS, LIKE 9TH GRADE ACADEMY HAS ITS OWN BUILDING. 
          IN THE CONTEXT OF A CAMPUS THAT IS ALSO VIEWED AS A SET LOCATION OR WHATEVER, ANYWAY, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT LOCATION. 
          AND I'M TOLD THAT ANKENY CENTENNIAL IS KIND OF THAT WAY, WHERE THEIR NINTH GRADE HOUSE IS NOT ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          FOR A LOT OF REASONS THAT WORK WELL FOR THEM. SO IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S GOT TO BE THEN. ONE BUILDING AND THE ONLY SPOT AS THE IDEA, BUT IN THAT GENERAL CONTEXT, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US IN ORDER TO COME FORWARD WITH AN IDEA? WELL, SO THERE'S STILL THREE OPTIONS, RIGHT? WE CAN RENOVATE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE. WE CAN BUILD THREE NEW BUILDINGS, OR WE CAN BUILD ONE CENTRAL CAMPUS. I MEAN, THOSE ARE REALLY THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. 
          WHEN I HEAR YOU SAY... 
          TO DO ONE NEW CAMPUS, IT WOULD BE A 400,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, AND IT WOULD COST US $225 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK AMES BUILT THEIR NEW SCHOOL IN 2023. IT'S 420,000 SQUARE FEET. THEY SPENT $140 MILLION ON IT, AND THEY ONLY HAVE 1,400 STUDENTS THERE. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS COMPARED TO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THREE TIMES AS MANY STUDENTS IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN WRAP MY HAND AROUND WHAT THAT MEANS. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION, I NEED MORE CLARITY ON WHAT DOES A 400,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING DO FOR US, HOW MANY STUDENTS CAN REALLY BE IN THERE COMFORTABLY, AND STEPPING BACK TO SAY, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND WHAT DO WE GIVE FOR THOSE DOLLARS. FEET AND THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS DOESN'T REALLY HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S INSIDE THAT SPACE. I 100% AGREE. AND THEN DIRECTOR LEE BROUGHT IT UP ON THE AQUA CENTER. WE HAD THE STRUGGLE WITH THE POOLS. WE STILL HAVE A STRUGGLE WITH THE POOLS. IF THAT'S NOT A PART OF IT, AND WE CAN ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO WORK ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT, DOES THAT SAVE US SOME MONEY? DOES IT SAVE US A TON OF MONEY? AND, AGAIN, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND WE TALK ABOUT ONE CAMPUS OR THREE. 
          WELL, MAYBE IT'S REALLY TWO, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR POPULATION IS SHRINKING. AND SO I THINK THAT IS THE FOURTH OPTION IS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND, AGAIN, JUST COMPARING TO AMES, WHICH IS ONE SAMPLE, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT SAMPLE. 
          YEP. 400,000 SQUARE FEET FOR $225 MILLION DOESN'T TELL ME IF THAT MEETS OUR NEEDS OR NOT. 
          YEP. SO SOMETIMES THOSE SQUARE FOOTAGES, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE SAID IN OUR LAST PRESENTATION, WHEN ALL WE KNOW IS THE SQUARE FOOT NUMBER, WE HAVE NO CLUE. HOW MUCH OF THAT IS DEDICATED TO CLASSROOMS. VERSUS, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY GYM SIZE, BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE SCHOOLS HAVE MASSIVE GYMS, AND THAT WILL SKEW THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBER IMMENSELY. SO THE NUMBERS I USE ARE ALL VERY CONSERVATIVE. I DID NOT TRY TO INFLATE THEM TO SCARE YOU GUYS EVEN MORE. 
          AND I SAY 400,000. TANNER, DO YOU KNOW THE NUMBER RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? YEAH, OKAY. I WAS GOING TO SAY, I PULLED IT DOWN, BUT I DO THINK IT IS CLOSER. 
          IT'S PRETTY HIGH UP IN THERE. 
          SO I 100% AGREE. AND I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OF THOSE NANTORIUM NUMBERS, BUT I THINK IF I WERE TO TRY TO JUST KEEP YOU GUYS UP OUT OF THOSE WEEDS JUST A LITTLE BIT, WHAT IS BEST FOR THE DISTRICT? YOU KNOW, I... BECAUSE I CAN PULL THINGS IN AND OUT TO GET THAT NUMBER DOWN, BUT IS THAT EVEN WORTH OUR EFFORT IF WE DON'T EVEN LIKE THE IDEA, OR WE DON'T EVEN THINK WE CAN DO IT? WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO AS A DISTRICT? WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO FOR SIOUX CITY? 
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THAT'S THE QUESTION I WANT YOU GUYS TO ANSWER IN YOUR HEARTS. WHAT IS BEST FOR SIOUX CITY SCHOOLS, DOLLARS ASIDE? JUST FORGET ABOUT THAT. WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO GO WITH THE DISTRICT? WELL, I THINK THE EASY THING WOULD BE WE WOULD BUILD THREE BRAND NEW BUILDINGS. SO YOU WOULD STAY WITH THREE NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CAN YOU SAY WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE DISTRICT? THAT'S THE EASY THING. WE DON'T HAVE TO CONVINCE ANYBODY THAT THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR SCHOOL NAMES, WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE WHERE TEACHERS WORK, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF THAT. THAT'S THE EASY THING. 
          FINANCIALLY, THAT IS THE IMPOSSIBLE THING, I THINK. AND SO IT'S NOT THE WHAT'S GOOD FOR SIOUX CITY IN A IT'S THIS OR IT'S THAT, IT IS. WHAT DOES SIOUX CITY NEED TO COMPROMISE ON TO GET THE BEST SITUATION? WE CAN FOR AN ENVIRONMENT THAT OUR TEACHERS CAN TEACH IN AND OUR STUDENTS CAN LEARN IN? AND THAT'S WHERE I NEED MORE INFORMATION THAN I HAVE TODAY. 
          AND I'VE TRIED TO DO MY RESEARCH, WHICH IS WHY I KNOW THE AIMS, NUMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          AND TRULY, I WOULD SAY, WE KNOW OUR POPULATION IS GOING DOWN. 
          THREE HIGH SCHOOLS IS THE WRONG MOVE TO BUILD THREE NEW HIGH SCHOOLS, UNLESS WE HAVE A PLAN TO REPURPOSE ONE OF THEM. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN TO TWO HIGH SCHOOLS ANYWAY. 
          THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION IN THREE YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HANDLE SOME OF THIS STUFF NOW, AND WHY WASTE $10 MILLION IF WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT SIX MONTHS, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT ASKING THE COMMUNITY'S PERMISSION. IT IS ABOUT ADVISING THEM ON WHY WE'RE MAKING THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING AND THAT WE ARE PUTTING THE STRATEGY AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS INTO THIS, AND WE'RE NOT JUST SHOOTING FROM THE HIP TO BECAUSE WE WANT THREE NEW BUILDINGS OR WE WANT ONE NEW BUILDING. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME. YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY JUST TO SPEND MONEY. EXACTLY. WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO SPEND, SO LET'S SPEND IT WISELY WHEN WE DO SPEND IT. WELL, LET'S REALLY HONE IN WHAT THOSE OPTIONS LOOK LIKE AND WHY WE THINK ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, AND THEN LET'S HEAR THAT FEEDBACK FROM THEM. 
          BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT THESE ARE THE OPTIONS, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE THREE OPTIONS, THESE ARE ALL THE DOLLARS WE HAVE, SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND TODAY WE HAVE NO DOLLARS TO DO ANY OF THESE, RIGHT? AND I THINK LEE SAID IT BEST WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT BRINGING, BY THE WAY, THAT'S A GREAT NAME. YOU TALKED ABOUT BRINGING THE INFORMATION TO, LIKE WHEN WE'RE HAVING THESE INFORMATIONAL, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S EQUALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM OUR EDUCATORS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND STUDENTS. I MEAN, THOSE ARE, THAT'S WHO WE SERVE. AND, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO. 
          BRING OUT THE FACTS, LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, THIS IS WHY, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR ENROLLMENT LOOKS LIKE. I MEAN, THAT COULD BE, IT'S GOING TO BE A SKEWED PROJECTION, BUT BASED OFF OF WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING NOW. 
          BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND JUST BE AS CANDID AS WE HAVE BEEN TODAY IN OUR SESSIONS WITH YOU. THE OTHER PART IS THAT... THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY NEED TO HAPPEN NOW. SIX MONTHS IS GREAT. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT TIME SPAN, AND I DON'T AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR OR TWO TO MAKE DECISIONS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE ARE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, AND I'M NOT JUST MAKING A CARTE BLANCHE DECISION. 100%. BECAUSE WHEN I THINK FROM MY HEART, LIKE, MY HEART TELLS ME. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. WHEN I THINK ABOUT ENROLLMENT, WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST US TO CONTINUE TO PATCH SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS THAT ARE OLDER THAN SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, NOT ME. ALL OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE OLDER THAN ALL OF US. I WAS GOING TO SAY, I REMEMBER THAT REMARK. 
          BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS ARE ALL IMPORTANT. 
          AND SO... I JUST THINK WE NEED TO JUST BE PROACTIVE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. 
          BECAUSE WE KIND OF HAVE OUR HANDS TIED TO SOME DEGREE IN HOW WE MOVE, AND WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY OPTIONS, HONESTLY. SO WHAT I HEARD THERE IS KIND OF TWO THINGS, AND I THINK THEY CAN COME TOGETHER, IS ONE, INFORM, HERE'S THE FACTS, AND BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE ADVISING. IS THAT WHAT I JUST HEARD? BUT WE STILL NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE ADVISING. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, CORRECT? YEP. SO WHAT WOULD HELP YOU, GUYS? OH, SORRY. GO 
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AHEAD. SO SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU PRESENTED, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME PONDERING THIS, DRIVING AROUND, THINKING ABOUT SIOUX CITY IN A WHOLE, IN ITS ENTIRETY, THINKING ABOUT THAT QUESTION OF WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A DESTINATION DISTRICT. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID, DIRECTOR GEORGE, AT THE BEGINNING OF. COMING TO SIOUX CITY AND BEING LIKE, WOW, THIS IS, AND GOING OTHER PLACES NOW AND SAYING, WOW, THIS IS REALLY DIFFERENT AND NEW AND EXCITING. 
          AND I DO THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS THAT CAME TO ME WAS LIKE, WHERE IS THERE EVEN SPACE TO DO THIS? AND THAT'S WHEN I REALLY STARTED THINKING ABOUT, LIKE, WHAT COULD THIS LOOK LIKE? OR WHAT ARE OUR POSSIBILITIES? AND THEN I LOOK AT SIOUX CITY AS A WHOLE, AND I SEE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING DOWNTOWN. AND I SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS CENTRAL AREA, WHERE THERE'S A BLOCK BEING FREED UP BY THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER GOING AWAY. THERE'S A SPACE RIGHT ACROSS WHERE THERE USED TO BE AN OLD BUILDING. AND I THINK, WHAT WOULD OUR DOWNTOWN LOOK LIKE IF THE SCHOOL WAS DOWNTOWN? WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR OUR STUDENTS? WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR OUR BUSINESS INTERACTIONS? WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR THOSE LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES THAT STUDENTS WOULD HAVE TO ENGAGE IN DIFFERENT THINGS? WHAT COULD IT MEAN TO LEVERAGE THE TYSON EVENTS CENTER? FOR PRACTICE AREAS OR PE OR WHATEVER IT IS. 
          AND I KNOW NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE LIKE SIDE BY SIDE, BUT I REALLY STARTED THINKING, LIKE, HOW COULD EDUCATION LOOK DIFFERENT? AND WHAT COULD THAT MEAN FOR SOMEBODY COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, SAYING, THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO. 
          THAT'S WHAT LIFE IS LIKE, THAT I WANT TO START PREPARING MY KIDS FOR. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF THAT IS THE RIGHT ANSWER, IS WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU. 
          BUT I KIND OF GET EXCITED. 
          DECIDED TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND I THINK IF WE CAN APPROACH IT, TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT HERE. I THINK THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL PUT OUT HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY AND ASKING EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY DOES FIND IT EASY TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT. 
          LIKE, ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S EASY UNTIL YOU HAVE TO PAY THE BILL, AND IT'S NOT SO EASY. WE KNOW WE CAN'T, SO STARTING TO LOOK AT THAT. WHAT COULD THIS MEAN FOR US? HOW COULD IT SET US APART, WHICH THEN HELPS US TO MAINTAIN, IF NOT TURN, THAT ENROLLMENT TREND AROUND, BY HAVING US BECOME THAT DESTINATION INSTEAD OF THE EXPORTER OF STUDENTS. 
          MY COMMENT REGARDING TO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AS TO, I'M FOCUSED ON, OKAY, HOW MANY OPTIONS DO YOU PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY? SO BEAR WITH ME. A FATHER OF... THREE BEAUTIFUL YOUNG LADIES GOING ON A TRIP AND TRYING TO DECIDE WHERE ONE IS GOING TO EAT. AND YOU GIVE THEM MULTIPLE OPTIONS. OUR CONVERSATION AND YOU HAVEN'T SETTLED IN ON ONE AREA OR ONE PLACE TO GO TO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SQUEEZE THIS DOWN TO TWO OPTIONS, SO THE CONVERSATION CAN BE ON TWO THINGS BECAUSE WE COULD OPEN UP MULTIPLE OPTIONS. AND WHEN WE COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE WE ARE TODAY. 
          SO FOR ME, IT'S EITHER ONE CAMPUS OPTION VERSUS MAYBE... 
          THAT'S WHERE MY MIND IS AT. 
          BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF GET THAT COMMUNITY TO FOCUS ON GO TO. YOU'RE REALLY NOT GOING TO GET FOCUSED ON THE DIRECTIONS. AND USUALLY, DAD WON OUT AND MCDONALD'S WAS THE PLACE THAT WE WENT, MY KIDS STILL HATE MCDONALD'S TO THIS DAY. 
          BUT I'M JUST SAYING IN ORDER TO KIND OF STREAMLINE THAT CONVERSATION. I THINK WE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME BECAUSE IT IS A LOT, IT IS A LOT OF MONEY. WE HAVE THAT MONEY. SO, SO, ONE SECOND, LEE. SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, JAN. WE CAN'T GIVE THEM THREE OPTIONS BECAUSE NOBODY'S EVER GOING TO. HELP US COME TO CONSENSUS. 
          BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT THAT FIRST OPTION THAT'S NOT VIABLE OUT THERE. TO SAY, WE DID LOOK AT THREE NEW SCHOOLS, AND IT'S NOT VIABLE. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE $400 MILLION. AND TO TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE WITH THEM AND TELL THEM WHY WE TOOK IT OFF THE TABLE. THAT'S THE INFORMED PIECE. YEAH, I THINK YOU RUN, WE BOLSTERED THIS POWERPOINT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE AND PUT A FEW MORE FACTS IN THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ALL, WELL, YOU HAVE AN OPTION TO PRINT THAT BOOK ABOUT THIS 
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THING IF YOU REALLY WANT TO. 
          BUT, YEAH, LET'S NOT CHOOSE THAT. SO, YEAH, I WOULD AGREE. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THAT INFORMED PIECE. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE CAME FROM IN THE BEGINNING WAS, YEAH, WE SAW THAT AS AN OPTION. WE WANTED TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU, BUT WE IN OUR HEARTS KNEW IT JUST WASN'T AFFORDABLE. 
          SO I AGREE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SHARE WITH THEM AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS JUST, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS. I ALSO AGREE WITH PRESIDENT GEORGE. MY KIDS, WHEN I. TO HAVE THE RULE OF THREE-FOURTHS, BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER, EVER, UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT TO PICK A SINGLE SPOT, AND THAT'S JUST A REALITY WITH ANY DECISION, WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED. IF YOU HAVE TOO MANY CHOICES, YOU JUST NEVER GET A DECISION MADE. CAN I ASK ONE FINANCE DIRECTOR KIND OF THING? WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE ESC AND THE PENNIES BUILDING. COULD WE GET A REPORT ON THOSE LIKE WE'VE SEEN FOR THE OTHER ONES, SO WE CAN SEE HOW MUCH AND WHERE? I THINK I SAW AT LEAST ONE DETAIL ON THE CHILDREN AIR HANDLER OR SOMETHING THAT WAS ON THE IMMEDIATE LIST, AND THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE SUMMARY. SO WE COULD HAVE AT LEAST EVERYTHING KIND OF TOGETHER. SO WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE. ALL THE PLACES, INCLUDING THE, NOT FORGET ABOUT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND THE SUNNYSIDE, NODLIN, RIVERSIDE. QUESTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE, TOO. I WANT TO SEE IT ALL SOMEWHERE. SO IT'S KIND OF COHESIVE WHEN WE FINALLY HAVE A BUDGET. HAVING A TEAM MEETING OVER THERE. 
          YEAH, YEAH, SORRY. SO I JUST ASKED HIM, LIKE, OKAY, I AGREE WITH THE INFORM ADVICE. I THINK WE WE GET THAT. WE'VE GOT ONE PROPOSITION FROM MR. GEORGE ABOUT WHAT THOSE TWO OPTIONS COULD LOOK LIKE, WHERE DO WE ARE WE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? OR IS THERE OTHER THINGS THERE, LIKE HELP US UNDERSTAND? MAYBE WHAT? MORE OF THOSE? BECAUSE, YEAH, THERE'S OPTIONS WITHIN OPTIONS, THERE'S IS ONE OF THOSE, JUST THE FRESHMAN ACADEMY, AND WE DO ONE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO, WHERE DO YOU GUYS STAND ON? WHAT ARE THOSE TWO OPTIONS? OR DO YOU WANT US TO WORK THROUGH THAT AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU? WHAT ARE YOU GUYS THINKING? WE'RE GOING TO MCDONALD'S. WHAT IS MCDONALD'S? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE HELP YOU GET DOWN TO TWO OPTIONS? I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING YOU ALREADY, I MEAN? TIM SAID, LIKE, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE GOT, LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA. 
          THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS NEED TO WORK ON. IS THAT IN ADDITION TO, IN MY OPINION, IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE ASKS, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO KNOW THE OTHER EXPENSES, LIKE WHAT DIRECTOR MEYER BROUGHT UP. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO KNOW SOME OF THAT INFORMATION, AND THAT MAY BE INFORMATION THAT IS HAD FOR US LATER. BUT RIGHT NOW, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. TIM, WHAT DID YOU SAY? YOU SAID THAT THE... THERE WAS THIS TWO OPTIONS, THE ONE CENTRAL, THE RENOVATE, AND YEAH. THEN THAT'S KIND OF AN OPTION, TWO AND A HALF RIGHT THERE. WE GOT MCDONALD'S MIXED IN WITH THIS. SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I THINK LOOKING AT WHAT OUR ENROLLMENT IS, RENOVATING ALL THREE HIGH SCHOOLS PROBABLY REALLY ISN'T A VIABLE OPTION. SO I APPRECIATE. 
          WHAT DIRECTOR GEORGE PUT FORWARD AS THE ONE HIGH SCHOOL OR TWO HIGH SCHOOLS? AND THEN I THINK THE QUESTION IS FIGURING OUT ARE BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS? 9 THROUGH 12 IS 1, 9, 10, THE OTHER 11 12? I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED THAT DETAIL IN ADVANCE OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, I THINK THAT BECOMES A DISCUSSION MORE WITH YOUR. YEAH, I THINK THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S MUCH MORE EDUCATED PEOPLE OUT THERE TO HELP FRAME THAT. AND THEN PROBABLY YOU'RE ASKING, I'VE HEARD A COUPLE GOOD IDEAS, AND I GUESS OF THOSE IDEAS, ONE WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS, ONE WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS. I'M REALLY THINKING IT WOULD BE NICE FOR US TO AT LEAST DECIDE AMONG THOSE CONCEPT OF IDEAS, SO THAT WHEN WE COME UP WITH THE ONES 
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TO PRESENT THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS... THIS IS THE STORY WITH TRYING TO KEEP THREE WHERE WE ARE. 
          HERE IS THE OTHER OPTION WE SUGGEST. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE LISTEN TO THE DIRECTOR, OF COURSE, WE'RE LISTENING TO YOU, BUT IF WE TOOK DIRECTOR HANSON'S IDEA, I'M JUST THINKING IT MENTALLY. 
          SO WHAT WOULD THAT BE LIKE? YOU'D COME DOWNTOWN AND YOU'D HAVE PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE BLOCK INVOLVED. YOU'D BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A FRESHMAN HOUSE TO HAVE ITS OWN BUILDING. 
          YOU'D BE ABLE TO HAVE OTHER, YOU KNOW, THEATER AND WHATNOT ALL, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BLOCK OPENING UP WITH THAT SITUATION. AND SO YOU COULD HAVE A SYNERGY OF BUILDINGS. THAT'S A CAMPUS, MUCH LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU WENT TO DRAKE, OR YOU WENT TO MANY OF THE OTHER MORE URBAN UNIVERSITIES. 
          AT THE NEXT SLIDE. YEP. SO IN MY MIND IS, OKAY, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF SIOUX CITY HIGH SCHOOL WAS DOWNTOWN ONE. AND IT WAS A CAMPUS OF SEVERAL BUILDINGS AND STREETS RUN THROUGH. AND ON THE OTHER HAND, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF SIOUX CITY HIGH SCHOOL WAS ONE LOCATION THAT'S LIKE A CITADEL, LIKE WE MAKE THEM NOW? WHEN THEY MADE THE BIG, MALL-STYLE ONES, THEY MADE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR FIEFDOM, AND IT'S ALL EXCLUSIVE TO US. 
          AND IF YOU'RE IN THE FIEFDOM, NOBODY'S DRIVING THROUGH OR WHATEVER. CORRECT. 
          SO I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS. WHAT WOULD THE DOWNTOWN SIOUX CITY SCHOOL LOOK LIKE IF WE EMBRACED THAT IDEA? AND WHAT WOULD BE THE, WHAT I'LL CALL, CITADEL-TYPE LARGE MALL CAMPUS OR WHATEVER THAT WE SEE SO MUCH OF? I'M NOT SURE THERE'S A DISADVANTAGE TO HAVING A CAMPUS WITH SEVERAL BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN. SO I'M THINKING, WHAT WOULD I WANT IF I WAS GOING FORWARD TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY? I'D WANT TO HAVE US DECIDE, DO WE LIKE THE IDEA OF A SIOUX CITY SCHOOL? IT MEANS NOBODY COMPLAINS. BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER FOR ME TO GO TO THE NEW CAMPUS IF I WAS AT NORTH THAN IF I WAS AT WEST. 
          THE THING IS, IS FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU'RE NOW ALL COMING DOWNTOWN. 
          YOU'RE SIOUX CITY, YOU'RE COMING DOWNTOWN, YOU'RE COMING TO AN IMPRESSIVE MULTI-BUILDING CAMPUS THAT HAS MULTI-FUNCTIONS. THAT OUR EDUCATORS AROUND THE ROOM HERE AND THROUGHOUT OUR CURRENT DISTRICT CAN SAY, OKAY, NOW WE CAN GET SOME THINGS DONE. 
          IN A LOCATION THAT'S FOCUSED ON A PARTICULAR, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR SCIENCE BUILDING, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR ARTS AND THE LIKE. SO I DON'T WANT TO RULE THAT OUT BECAUSE DOWNTOWN OFFERS THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND IT ELIMINATES THE, WELL, WHO GOT TO BE THE KING THAT KEPT THE... 
          THE CASTLE AND, UH... I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THAT AND WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AND U.S. SIDE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THAT AS IDEAS GOING FORWARD. UH... 
          I, I WOULD SUGGEST, IF WE'RE THINKING OF DOWNTOWN, THAT APPROPRIATE PEOPLE SHOULD VISIT WITH MARTY DOHERTY AND WHOEVER ON THE CITY SIDE, BECAUSE I'VE DONE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN. AND UH... TAKES A WHILE, AT BEST, AND IT'S VERY COMPLICATED WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THAT'S ALL I'VE WANTED TO SAY. ANY DISCUSSION, WE CAN ALWAYS ADJUST. RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY. BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. SO AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE TALKING EXACT LOCATION, I THINK THERE'S STILL. THE BROADER DISCUSSION. WHEN WE TALK TO THE COMMUNITY IS, CAN WE DO A CAMPUS LOCATION WHERE WE'RE COMING TOGETHER, REGARDLESS OF LOCATION. I CAN GET BEHIND EITHER OF THOSE IDEAS, HONESTLY. BUT AS SOON AS YOU PICK SOMETHING, NOW YOU'VE GIVEN THEM SOMETHING TO KIND OF PICK ON. RATHER THAN THE GREATER GOOD OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I THINK IT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO COME TOGETHER AROUND THIS ONE CAMPUS OR TWO CAMPUSES IS WHAT I HEARD. SO LOCATION TO COME LATER. I THINK THAT WOULD BE LIKE A PHASE TWO. OKAY, HEY, THE COMMUNITY, YOU GUYS AGREED THAT THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO, OR THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ADVISING. 
          NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT AND WE KNOW WHAT DOLLARS WE HAVE, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING FOR LOCATION AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO EXECUTE. IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF A CAMPUS FORMAT, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO REASON WHY IT'S. WHAT'S YOUR 
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ADVICE? MODELING, PLACEMENT. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY THE OUT-OF-THE-BOX IDEA. I MEAN, THE OTHER ONES ARE NOT, THEY'RE PRETTY EASY TO TO TALK ABOUT. I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND SAY, WELL, WE CAN RENOVATE AND THIS IS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NEW BUILDING OPTION, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT AN OPTION. 
          BUT THE REALLY OUT-OF-THE-BOX IDEA THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD EITHER, YOU KNOW, SAIL OR SINK IS THE THE CAMPUS CONCEPT. 
          SO FOR US TO PUT A LITTLE MORE WORK INTO THAT AND LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD KIND OF LOOK LIKE. AND I AGREE WITH LEE. I GET REALLY SKEPTICAL ABOUT TALKING ABOUT LOCATION JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WILL SAY, OH, HEY, I GOT A PIECE OF LAND AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SELL IT. NOW IT'S WORTH A LOT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO STEER AWAY FROM THAT. THAT WILL COME SOONER OR LATER. IT WILL COME SOONER OR LATER. 
          YES, I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE DRIVEN AROUND, JUST IMAGINING. AND THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE. I'VE IMAGINED SEVERAL EXAMPLES. SO, YES, I'M GOING TO SAY, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR DOWNTOWN. SO IF YOU HAVE LEANDER BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN. I SAY IN THAT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUMP IN, BUT IT KIND OF GIVES US THE DIRECTION THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE OTHER ONES, IF WE COME BACK AND SAY A REMODEL OF TWO, THREE, OR HOWEVER MANY HIGH SCHOOLS, THAT'S PRETTY EASY TO COME BACK WITH. AND WE START LOOKING AT DESIGNS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT THE ONE THAT REALLY WOULD NEED TO GET SOME AIR IN IT WOULD BE THAT CAMPUS WITH COMMUNITY, AND THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST. 
          AND SO TO HELP KIND OF THAT, USE TIM'S WORD TO GET THAT AIR UNDERNEATH THAT IDEA. 
          FOR YOU GUYS, IS THAT LITERALLY LIKE A SITE PLAN, A HYPOTHETICAL SITE PLAN OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, OR IS THAT SITTING DOWN WITH SOME STAFF AND REALLY IMAGINING HOW THIS COULD WORK, WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS IN MORE DEPTH, AND ALL THE EFFICIENCIES THAT CAN COME WITH IT, OR IS IT BOTH? I THINK IT'S BOTH. BECAUSE IT COMES WITH BOTH, RIGHT? WE NEED TO... 
          WE NEED TO MAKE OUR DISCUSSION MORE ROBUST IN WHY THIS IS THE BEST IDEA. 
          SO WE HAD TO GO TALK TO A FEW PEOPLE ABOUT DO THEY AGREE. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO OPEN IT UP, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE THINKING RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE THEY COULD ALL BE SAYING NO OR YES. I'M NOT SURE. OR BECAUSE WE MAY COME BACK WITH THAT INFORMATION. THIS ISN'T SUPPORTED. I DON'T KNOW. 
          PERHAPS THEY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE. I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE. MAYBE THEY'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT IT IS BIGGER THAN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM. I 100% AGREE. 
          AND SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM THE MATH, YEAH, SINCE YOU JUST ALLUDED TO THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM HEARING THIS BEFORE. SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND US. WE JUST NEED TO GET A PLAN SO THAT WE CAN SAY IT'S A GOOD PLAN OR A BAD PLAN, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE NEXT STEP IS BRING THAT. 
          AND I THINK SOME OF THAT, TOO, WHEN OUR TEAM. PROGRAM OF WHAT THIS COULD BE, WHAT THE NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE COULD, I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS US, BASED ON OUR KNOWLEDGE. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT MIC. I HAVE A LOUD VOICE. I DON'T THINK YOU WANT THE MIC. IT'S NOT LOUD ENOUGH, CHAD. SORRY, SORRY. WE'RE DOING THE WAVE. I THINK WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER OUR PROGRAM AND JUST TO GET THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBER THAT WE GAVE YOU, WE WERE ALSO WORKING TOGETHER. 
          OUTSIDE OF LEADERSHIP. AND I THINK HAVING LEADERSHIP HELPED WITH SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. HELPS US VET A BETTER PROGRAM. SO THAT WHEN WE SAY WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 100 CLASSROOMS, IS THAT NECESSARY? DOES THAT MEET THE DEMAND? DOES THAT MEET THE NEED? SO IF WE COULD EXPAND OUR GROUP TO ENCOMPASS SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP, THAT HELPS US THEN TO COME UP WITH BETTER NUMBERS. CERTAINLY TO VISIT PEOPLE. BECAUSE THE VISION I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS NOT SQUARE FOOT NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS, STICK THIS MANY KIDS IN THERE. THE VISION I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS... AH, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, WHAT COULD WE DO IF INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS SCHOOL PIECE, LET'S SAY IF WE HAD OUR SCIENCE PIECE? AND THEY COULD HAVE, THIS IS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, THIS IS ON THE HARD SCIENCE SIDE, WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, FROM A TEACHING STANDPOINT AND A CURRICULUM STANDPOINT? OR IS IT BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A SEPARATE HOUSE FOR THE NINTH GRADE, FOR THE FRESHMAN ACADEMY? AND HOW WOULD THAT LOOK? OR IS IT REALLY BETTER THAT THEY BE IN CONNECTION WITH ANOTHER BUILDING? AND HOW DO WE BEST HANDLE THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP EXCELLENT WRITING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? AND, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE THE ENGINEERING PIECE OUT IN THE SCHOOLS. I THINK 
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WE'RE HAPPY WITH WHERE IT'S NOW LOCATED. 
          BUT I REMEMBER HEARING FROM STUDENTS BACK THEN THAT IT FELT LIKE IT WAS HOME. TO HAVE, LIKE THE ENGINEERING ROOM THAT THEY HAD. IT SAYS THAT WE'RE IN A BIG BUILDING AND AT LEAST THIS IS HOME. AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE, I DO WANT OUR EDUCATION SPECIALISTS AND EXPERTS TO TALK ABOUT NOT JUST HOW MANY ROOMS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE AND STICK THEM. YOU GUYS CAN CERTAINLY HANDLE THAT PART. 
          BUT WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE DELIVERY OF OUR CURRICULUM TO ACHIEVE THE BEST EXCELLENCE TO HAVE? THIS MODEL AND SEPARATE PLACES OR WHATEVER, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, OR WITHIN A LARGE BUILDING, HOW WOULD YOU WANT THAT CONFIGURED? SO THAT IT'S TO THE ADVANTAGE OF ACCOMPLISHING OUR GOAL OF WORLD-CLASS EDUCATION? I 100% AGREE. I JUST WANTED YOUR BLESSINGS ON BUILDING THAT TEAM OUT. AND SO FOR ME, IT'S MORE THAN JUST THIS TEAM AND HOW MANY CLASSROOMS, SO I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT. 
          BUT CAN WE LOOK AT MODELS WHERE THEY'VE GONE TO THE CAMPUS, AND WHERE HAS IT WORKED, AND WHERE HASN'T IT WORKED? AND IF IT HASN'T WORKED, WHY DIDN'T IT WORK? SO IT'S THIS GROUP. PLUS, IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE DATA THAT'S OUT THERE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST WHAT IT AIMS TO DO. OR... AGREED. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, DIRECTOR MILLER, OF EVEN TAKING SOME TOURS OF SOME OF THESE CAMPUSES AND GETTING THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY OF WHAT THESE ARE. 
          AND JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GO DOWN A PATHWAY AND SPEND THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE UNTIL WE GOT A PULSE ON WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE. AND I COULD BE WRONG, GUYS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED THREE BUILDINGS MOVING FORWARD. I LIKE THE IDEA OF VISITING CAMPUSES. I'LL GO TO THE ONE IN LAS VEGAS. 
          THERE'S A REALLY NICE ONE IN MAUI. I HAD THAT THOUGHT, I JUST DIDN'T SAY IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE GIVING YOU WHAT YOU NEED? BE HONEST. KIND OF LOOKING AT MY TEAM HERE AS WELL. ARE WE GOOD, TIM? I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A DIRECTION. 
          WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THESE OPTIONS WITHIN A LITTLE MORE DEPTH, AND WE MIGHT COME BACK AND SCRAP ONE ALTOGETHER AND SAY. THAT JUST DIDN'T GO THE DIRECTION WE WANTED. SO, TIM, I THINK... 
          THE OTHER PIECE THAT I NEED IS THAT AQUATIC CENTER. I THINK OMAHA HAS BUILT ONE, OR THERE'S OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE BUILT ONE. WE HAVE, AGAIN, ARGUED ABOUT THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW. HOW MUCH WILL A POOL COST US IN ONE CAMPUS OR TWO CAMPUSES, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, VERSUS HOW MUCH DOES AN AQUATIC CENTER COST THE CITY? AND IF WE HAVE TO KEEP IT IN OUR PLAN, OR WE CAN GET RID OF IT, AND WE CAN CONVINCE THE CITY, THE CHAMBER, SOMEBODY ELSE TO GO AND WORK ON THAT, SO WE CAN NARROW THAT DOWN IN OUR PLAN. I MEAN, I'M ANTI- BUILDING A NEW POOL, BUT WE NEED A POOL IN THE CITY. I'M ANTI FOR THE SCHOOL BUILDING A NEW POOL. WE CAN COME BACK WITH THAT. I CAN'T FIND IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'VE GOT A GENERAL NUMBER. 
          AGAIN, I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT... 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF CITY... 
          NORFOLK PUT TOGETHER AND HAVE DONE NOTHING TO... WE AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT WE AS A CITY HAVE DONE NOTHING TO SUPPORT THE AQUATICS. WE'RE THE ONLY ONE. YEAH, SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE THAT 2080 AGREEMENT IN PLACE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR SIOUX CITY AND SIOUX CITY SCHOOLS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THEM, AND THAT'S HOW THEY GOT SOME OF THOSE POOLS BUILT AND THOSE TRACKS AND THOSE FOOTBALL FIELDS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. 
          SO RELATIONSHIPS MATTER. THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A... 
          GOOD DIRECTION TO GO, AND WE'LL BE BACK WITH SOME MCDONALD'S. THANKS, EVERYONE. 
          DISCUSSION, CORRECT? WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.